Register FAQ/Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Welcome to the Mac Forums forums. Please read the FAQ if you have questions. Register to participate.

 
Go Back   Mac Forums > Archive > Archives of Old Posts > MacRumors News Discussion (archive)
TouchArcade.com - iPhone Game Reviews and News

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Feb 27, 2003, 11:44 PM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
iChat VideoConferencing, Java 1.4.1, and MPC7457

Various tidbits:

Motorola posts further details about the MPC7457. The 7457 was previously discussed and will be introduced at 1.3GHz with 512k of L2 cache and up to 2MB of L3 cache.

An Apple iChat update is in the works and the next revision will introduce Video Conferencing capabilities. An Apple Video Conferencing application was first hinted at by Steve Jobs himself in April 2002 during a shareholder meeting. Microphone and Camera icons were subsequently found in iChat's resource files, further hinting at future functionality.

An Apple software update will be appearing on March 3rd... but details are scarce. The most likely candidate appears to be Java 1.4.1 Final which is rumored to be released on that same day, but hints at iMovie 3.0.2 have also emerged.
MacRumors is offline  
Old Feb 27, 2003, 11:49 PM   #2
Dj Kioto
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Send a message via AIM to Dj Kioto
slew 'o' updates

keynote 1.01 is up too
Dj Kioto is offline  
Old Feb 27, 2003, 11:53 PM   #3
iJon
macrumors 601
 
iJon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
well it shouldnt be too hard to get videoconfrencing into ichat, they already have quicktime broadcaster. how cool would it be to start having an optional itty bitty camera installed in the top of your studio display or any other mac for this, ah the wonders. dont think it will be that but i think apple will wow us.

iJon
iJon is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 12:01 AM   #4
howard
macrumors 68000
 
howard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
stupid motorola nobody cares about your damn chips anymore
__________________
Check out my new EP, its acoustic with a touch electric, mellow, a little folky, indie rock/pop.
howard is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 12:02 AM   #5
Kwyjibo
macrumors 68040
 
Kwyjibo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
I personally think video ocnferencing in iChat will be cool, It especially makes sense for apple to make further intergration like this since everything is already tied with the Address Book, I can jsut imagine Now Conferencing with "user", I hope theres a way to do it with non ichat ppl too tho atleast eventually.
Kwyjibo is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 12:07 AM   #6
FelixDerKater
macrumors 65816
 
FelixDerKater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Quote:
Originally posted by howard
stupid motorola nobody cares about your damn chips anymore
Oh so true... They are just like duct tape, holding together Apple's hardware lines until the 970 arrives. Still, why don't they leave the L2 cache at 1MB instead of dropping it to 512K?
FelixDerKater is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 12:21 AM   #7
TMJ1974
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Send a message via AIM to TMJ1974
Quote:
Originally posted by FelixDerKater
Oh so true... They are just like duct tape, holding together Apple's hardware lines until the 970 arrives. Still, why don't they leave the L2 cache at 1MB instead of dropping it to 512K?
The L2 cache is currently at 256K, 1 or 2 MB is the L3 cache, so 512K L2 cache is an improvement.
TMJ1974 is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 12:22 AM   #8
wsteineker
macrumors 6502a
 
wsteineker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Montgomery, AL
I may be the only one who feels this way, but I for one am glad to see Motorola getting a little more concrete about the 7457. It's not like Apple is goint to debut the 970 in all of its machines at the same time, so we'll continue to need G4s to run the "i" series. PowerPC development, be it done by Motorola or IBM, will only benefit us in the long run. Still, we'll have to wait and see if they actually produce.
__________________
"Let's drink to the hard working people. Let's drink to the lowly of birth. Raise your glass to the good and the evil. Let's drink to the salt of the earth." - The Rolling Stones, Salt of the Earth
wsteineker is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 12:26 AM   #9
law guy
macrumors 6502a
 
law guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Western Massachusetts
Quote:
Originally posted by wsteineker
I may be the only one who feels this way, but I for one am glad to see Motorola getting a little more concrete about the 7457. It's not like Apple is goint to debut the 970 in all of its machines at the same time, so we'll continue to need G4s to run the "i" series. PowerPC development, be it done by Motorola or IBM, will only benefit us in the long run. Still, we'll have to wait and see if they actually produce.
It's probably already been suggested (a thousand times), but the 7457 specs (speed, pin compatable, 2mb L3) and the delay (no 1.42 dual G4s for four more weeks -early April) suggest that the new 1.42s are using the 7457. Is that correct?
law guy is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 12:31 AM   #10
nickmcghie
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: UCLA
if/when apple does release the new version of iChat, will the videoconferencing abilities only be compatible with other users of iChat? is it possible that somehow it will be integrated with AIM? does AIM even support videoconferencing now?
nickmcghie is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 12:42 AM   #11
FredAkbar
macrumors 6502a
 
FredAkbar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Quote:
Originally posted by nickmcghie
if/when apple does release the new version of iChat, will the videoconferencing abilities only be compatible with other users of iChat? is it possible that somehow it will be integrated with AIM? does AIM even support videoconferencing now?
The latest AIM version for OS X doesn't have any video conferencing capabilties, and neither does the Windows version, as far as I know.

--Fred
FredAkbar is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 01:07 AM   #12
ChoMomma
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Near a Jack in the Box... I could go for some curly fries about now..
Send a message via AIM to ChoMomma Send a message via Skype™ to ChoMomma
Question

Maybe AOL will roll a new video conf feature out at that time... ??


it would be good if it required Quicktime to be installed : ) more Apple Quicktime users : ) !!!

World Domination is ours!!!!!!!

...sorry got carried away...
__________________
-- iMac 24" 2.1ghz/3GB/250/superdrive
ChoMomma is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 01:51 AM   #13
awulf
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: South Australia
Send a message via ICQ to awulf Send a message via AIM to awulf Send a message via Yahoo to awulf
Where can you see those iChat icons?

I really would like voice chat in iChat, but first I need a mic port. I think excluding mic ports was one of apples dumbes things.
awulf is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 02:09 AM   #14
bidge
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: New Zealand
Quote:
Originally posted by awulf
Where can you see those iChat icons?

I really would like voice chat in iChat, but first I need a mic port. I think excluding mic ports was one of apples dumbes things.
remeber though that most of Apple's computers already have built in microphones.
bidge is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 02:10 AM   #15
phampton81
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
7457 rumors seem good on the outside, but scary on the inside. Good that we will at least have faster/better chips in our 'i' series macs if not 970's, scary because of the possibility the power lines will continue to use motorola for the next year or two. Oh the horror.
phampton81 is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 02:42 AM   #16
wsteineker
macrumors 6502a
 
wsteineker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Montgomery, AL
Quote:
Originally posted by phampton81
7457 rumors seem good on the outside, but scary on the inside. Good that we will at least have faster/better chips in our 'i' series macs if not 970's, scary because of the possibility the power lines will continue to use motorola for the next year or two. Oh the horror.
It's definitely a mixed blessing, to say the least. We can only hope that the trained chimps at Motorola have finally figured out how to run a production line.
__________________
"Let's drink to the hard working people. Let's drink to the lowly of birth. Raise your glass to the good and the evil. Let's drink to the salt of the earth." - The Rolling Stones, Salt of the Earth
wsteineker is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 03:59 AM   #17
redAPPLE
macrumors 68020
 
redAPPLE's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: 2 Much Infinite Loops
i hope the ichat would be compatible to AIM (it is cross-plattform right?).

i hope it can not only video conference, i hope it can voice conference too.

and did i mention, i hope it is cross-plattform?
redAPPLE is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 05:50 AM   #18
d46799
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SFBA, CA, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by iJon
how cool would it be to start having an optional itty bitty camera installed in the top of your studio display
Love it! I wonder if they could fit one at the top/middle of a powerbook screen.

On second thought, if cams were built in to computers as standard practice, the term 'spyware' might take on new meaning. 'Big Brother' comes to mind too.
__________________
Pong, Atari 2600, ZX-81, Atari800XL, Mac Plus, Powerbook Duo 210, PowerMac 6500, Powerbook G4
Quote: I'll *never* be able to fill that up! (Said about my 16k RAM expander for ZX-81, $600 20MB HD, 80MB HD, 500MB HD, 4 GB HD, 40GB HD, 120GB HD, etc., etc.)
d46799 is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 06:52 AM   #19
macgroove
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
ichat with videoconferencing

Can someone tell me whether it is possible already to chat with MSN Members in iChat......and better yet, does anyone anticipate VC'ing with MSN/users and users of polycom video conferencing software....?
macgroove is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 07:52 AM   #20
Dont Hurt Me
macrumors 601
 
Dont Hurt Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Yahooville S.C.
Quote:
Originally posted by law guy
It's probably already been suggested (a thousand times), but the 7457 specs (speed, pin compatable, 2mb L3) and the delay (no 1.42 dual G4s for four more weeks -early April) suggest that the new 1.42s are using the 7457. Is that correct?
I dont think so since they had posted mass production was going to be in 4th qtr this year. Still makes you wonder where and how apple gets 1.25 and 1.42? and apple and motorola aint talking about this as far as i know.
__________________
Those that give up Liberty to have temporary Security deserve Neither......Benjamin Franklin.
Dont Hurt Me is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 07:54 AM   #21
ozubahn
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Connecticut
Quote:
Originally posted by d46799
On second thought, if cams were built in to computers as standard practice, the term 'spyware' might take on new meaning. 'Big Brother' comes to mind too.
That's definitely a concern, but I think there are easy ways to control that. For instance, putting a small LED next to the lens that glows when the camera is active would be simple, and it could be handled at a level of hardware far below the reach of spyware. The spyware could turn on your camera, but not without revealing its existence in the process. There are probably other more elegant approaches too, but that's a start.

I think a built in camera would be a good idea. All the monitors have internal USB connections anyway, so there is no cable issue (unless you want a firewire camera). And judging from the most recent crop of Japanese cellphones, Apple could fit all the cameras it wants into monitor frames, even in the PowerBook.
ozubahn is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 08:01 AM   #22
matznentosh
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Quote:
Originally posted by ozubahn
That's definitely a concern, but I think there are easy ways to control that. For instance, putting a small LED next to the lens that glows when the camera is active would be simple, and it could be handled at a level of hardware far below the reach of spyware. The spyware could turn on your camera, but not without revealing its existence in the process. There are probably other more elegant approaches too, but that's a start.

I think a built in camera would be a good idea. All the monitors have internal USB connections anyway, so there is no cable issue (unless you want a firewire camera). And judging from the most recent crop of Japanese cellphones, Apple could fit all the cameras it wants into monitor frames, even in the PowerBook.
Interesting idea. Could this turn into a practical version of an iPhone? As a Powerbook it wouldn't be a PDA or a phone, so it wouldn't contradict Steve Jobs' emphatic denial that Apple would make a PDA.
matznentosh is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 08:01 AM   #23
BenRoethig
macrumors 68030
 
BenRoethig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Dubuque, Iowa
Send a message via AIM to BenRoethig Send a message via Yahoo to BenRoethig
Quote:
Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
I dont think so since they had posted mass production was going to be in 4th qtr this year. Still makes you wonder where and how apple gets 1.25 and 1.42? and apple and motorola aint talking about this as far as i know.
The 1.25, 1.33, and 1.42 are exclusive to Apple. They make too much heat to be used in the embedded market. Since Motorola does not plan to market these to other companies, they don't bother to list them on their website.
BenRoethig is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 08:19 AM   #24
Dont Hurt Me
macrumors 601
 
Dont Hurt Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Yahooville S.C.
Thanks, i have wondered about this for a while and that sounds like a good explanation.
__________________
Those that give up Liberty to have temporary Security deserve Neither......Benjamin Franklin.
Dont Hurt Me is offline  
Old Feb 28, 2003, 08:48 AM   #25
Mr. MacPhisto
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Quote:
Originally posted by wsteineker
I may be the only one who feels this way, but I for one am glad to see Motorola getting a little more concrete about the 7457. It's not like Apple is goint to debut the 970 in all of its machines at the same time, so we'll continue to need G4s to run the "i" series. PowerPC development, be it done by Motorola or IBM, will only benefit us in the long run. Still, we'll have to wait and see if they actually produce.
Unless IBM has another PPC chip they decide to switch over to.

It certainly would be wonderful if everything did go to the 970. There may be enough range in speed at the get go to do something like that. It's doubtful though. But IBM may offer an alternative that could upgrade the G3s.

I have a feeling the G4 will be about the same cost, if not more, as the 970. Why stick that in your lower end? Yet, it would be beneficial if you could get Altivec into all your machines. IBM can make chips cheaper and more efficiently - so a complete switch over could be possible.
Mr. MacPhisto is offline  

 

Mac Forums > Archive > Archives of Old Posts > MacRumors News Discussion (archive)

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:38 AM.

Mac News | Mac Rumors | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2002-2009, MacRumors.com, LLC