Metal Interface on Mail?

MacRumors · Mar 11, 2003, 04:13 PM

Spymac reports on superficial changes to Apple's mail client:

Quote:

Apple?s Mail application will sport an interface similar to iChat and Safari in an upcoming version, according to recent information sent to Spymac.

iChat and Safari currently sport a "Metal" interface which is also found on iTunes.

dgallina · Mar 11, 2003, 04:18 PM

Ugh.

Metal is OK for some simple apps, but putting it on EVERYTHING is not the way IMHO. Mail would be super-ugly with metal...

Simon Liquid · Mar 11, 2003, 04:19 PM

#1- The source is SpyMac
#2- It's about something that doesn't really matter much anyway.

awulf · Mar 11, 2003, 04:19 PM

Mail is the only Apple app with the Aqua interface. So that would have been expected to change.

I hope they add a formatting tool bar for composing emails.

ubergrid · Mar 11, 2003, 04:21 PM

Jeez, with all the great design Apple has, I don't know why they keep screwin around with this cheezy metal crap.

vniow · Mar 11, 2003, 04:21 PM

Ick, this is what it'll look like:

http://forums.macrumors.com/attachme...&postid=266903

DreaminDirector · Mar 11, 2003, 04:30 PM

Geez, make some other improvements! Does metal have to be on everything? This isn't news either!

DeusOmnis · Mar 11, 2003, 04:37 PM

I wouldnt be worried, apple always does a good job of making thier apps look nice.

robotrenegade · Mar 11, 2003, 04:39 PM

I agree that this metal look is cheesy but it seems easier to look at. Is there a date for this upgrade?

MacDuff · Mar 11, 2003, 04:41 PM

Dude,
I think that image looks sweet. I don't mind going against the grain - I like the metal brushed look. You know the windows users are just drooling over something that could unify their os as much as ours is. Go apple!

blueBomber · Mar 11, 2003, 04:46 PM

i really am starting to dislike the metal interface. It worked for quicktime, but now i'm starting to wonder why Apple came up with something as elegant as aqua just to cover it up with brushed metal textures.

garyhoare · Mar 11, 2003, 04:46 PM

Does anyone else think that the metal appearance tends to slow down apps?

moosecat · Mar 11, 2003, 04:47 PM

I like brushed metal too ... In addition to its aesthetics (which set metallized apps apart from Windows nicely), I like being able to grab a window anywhere to move it.

boobers · Mar 11, 2003, 04:50 PM

Metal is for appliances like itunes and quicktime, address book and ichat and everything else is just too much for me.

smashedapart · Mar 11, 2003, 04:54 PM

It's a little out there, but, has anyone considered that Apple might be turning Mail into an entry-level mail program? Think about it, iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, all of these consumer-oriented apps sport the metal interface. Maybe there's more to this than what's on the surface. Perhaps Apple is working on a pro Mail app like Outlook and is planning to use the metal theme to separate the two...? It kinda fits with the rumors that Apple has been working on their own Office suite. Just an idea...

-- smashedapart

robotrenegade · Mar 11, 2003, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Does anyone else think that the metal appearance tends to slow down apps?

Not that i see.

wilburpan · Mar 11, 2003, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by garyhoare
Does anyone else think that the metal appearance tends to slow down apps?

If this was the case, then you would expect all of those skinable programs to also have a performance hit depending on the skin used. I have never seen this to be a factor in performance.

Backtothemac · Mar 11, 2003, 05:05 PM

Hey Mrs V! good job on that. I like it. I wish the entire OS was metal. If only I could do that somehow.

Goblin2099 · Mar 11, 2003, 05:06 PM

Heh, I've had mail metallifized for about a year now. I don't like brushed metal on everything, but Mail seems better to me with it.

Qball · Mar 11, 2003, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacDuff
Dude,
I think that image looks sweet. I don't mind going against the grain - I like the metal brushed look. You know the windows users are just drooling over something that could unify their os as much as ours is. Go apple!

I have stainless steel appliances in my kitchen, so this change is a natural extension of my kitchen motif.

They should have a toggle switch in the program to go between aqua and brushed metal.

joed · Mar 11, 2003, 05:10 PM

I had a feeling this was going to happen sooner or later.

I think they're loosing the consistency with the OS look, I liked how Quicktime and the iLife bundle are all metal apps, but it seems they want to change all the apps.

What about Sherlock and Help? Should these become brushed metal as well, why not just convert all free apps. I don't like it how some are Aqua and the rest are brushed metal. They should think of something different, brushed metal been around for ages - it is so OS9

James.

Malic · Mar 11, 2003, 05:15 PM

I just had a thought ... Aqua's pinstripe style mirrored (in spirit) the physical design style of the iMac. With the metal look, is this a sign of things to come? Will all Mac's have a brushed metal "PowerBook" style to them?

coolsoldier · Mar 11, 2003, 05:20 PM

Apple is going WAAAAY overboard with the metal stuff. It looks good in simple apps that usually only have one window (i.e. iTunes, iCal, Calculator), but for apps like Safari, Mail, etc. I just have to go in there with Interface Builder and take the metal out...just means more work for me. Metal only looks decent if they leave some border room around the edge of the window.

Remember how strict apple used to be about interface guidelines? Now it seems they're swinging to the other extreme

.

seven5 · Mar 11, 2003, 05:23 PM

everyone please go send in a feedback note to apple to TONE IT DOWN WITH THE BRUSHED METAL!!

I just did it, And am sooo sick of it.

We all love all their apps, so we all have them open, it makes the great Aqua interface look like bruhsed metal, its terrible.

Not to mention that this breaks their Human Interface Guidelines:

Quote:

Mac OS X version 10.2 provides developers with a new ?textured? window appearance (see Figure 5-4). This window style has been designed specifically for use by?and is therefore best suited to?applications that provide an interface for a digital peripheral, such as a camera, or an interface for managing data shared with digital peripherals, such as the Address Book application.

This appearance may also be appropriate for applications that strive to re-create a familiar physical device?the Calculator application, for example. Avoid using the textured window appearance in applications or utilities that are unrelated to digital peripherals or to the data associated with these devices.

Go give them feedback here:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/

Choppaface · Mar 11, 2003, 05:24 PM

bleh.... now they're putting it on everything? come on it's getting old really fast...

Mar 11, 2003, 04:19 PM	#3
Simon Liquid macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Iowa	Isn't this what "Page Two" is for? #1- The source is SpyMac #2- It's about something that doesn't really matter much anyway.

Mar 11, 2003, 04:19 PM	#4
awulf macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Australia	Mail is the only Apple app with the Aqua interface. So that would have been expected to change. I hope they add a formatting tool bar for composing emails. __________________ Join The MacRumors Folding Team Now! The Mac Specifications Database

Mar 11, 2003, 04:21 PM	#5
ubergrid macrumors newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC	metal blows Jeez, with all the great design Apple has, I don't know why they keep screwin around with this cheezy metal crap.

Mar 11, 2003, 04:30 PM	#7
DreaminDirector macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Emeryville, CA	who cares! Geez, make some other improvements! Does metal have to be on everything? This isn't news either! __________________ "There's always something waiting at the end of the road. If you're not willing to see what it is, you probably shouldn't be out there in the first place."

Mar 11, 2003, 04:37 PM	#8
DeusOmnis macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI	I wouldnt be worried, apple always does a good job of making thier apps look nice. __________________ Dual 1 GHz MDD G4 ][ 1.5 GB DDR RAM ][ 80 GB HD ][ Sony 19" Trinitron G410R ][ GeForce 4 Ti 4600 ][ M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Sound Card ][ Klipsch 5.1 Ultra

Mar 11, 2003, 04:18 PM	#2
dgallina macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2003	Ugh. Metal is OK for some simple apps, but putting it on EVERYTHING is not the way IMHO. Mail would be super-ugly with metal...

Mar 11, 2003, 04:21 PM	#6
vniow macrumors 603 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I accidentally my whole location.	Ick, this is what it'll look like: http://forums.macrumors.com/attachme...&postid=266903

Mar 11, 2003, 04:39 PM	#9
robotrenegade macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Greenville,SC	I agree that this metal look is cheesy but it seems easier to look at. Is there a date for this upgrade? __________________ 60GB iPod \| 17" Mac Book Pro \| Mac OS 10.5.4 \| 8GB iphone

Mar 11, 2003, 04:41 PM	#10
MacDuff macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco	Dude, I think that image looks sweet. I don't mind going against the grain - I like the metal brushed look. You know the windows users are just drooling over something that could unify their os as much as ours is. Go apple! __________________ www.bhilldesign.com

Mar 11, 2003, 04:46 PM	#11
blueBomber macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN	i really am starting to dislike the metal interface. It worked for quicktime, but now i'm starting to wonder why Apple came up with something as elegant as aqua just to cover it up with brushed metal textures. __________________ "I am a ninja. My life is lonely and difficult." "Fry to the rain forest and save the nature!" "Yes Sir!" - a Neo Geo Classic

Mar 11, 2003, 04:46 PM	#12
garyhoare macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2001 Location: Providence, RI	Does anyone else think that the metal appearance tends to slow down apps?

Mar 11, 2003, 04:47 PM	#13
moosecat macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002	I like brushed metal too ... In addition to its aesthetics (which set metallized apps apart from Windows nicely), I like being able to grab a window anywhere to move it.

Mar 11, 2003, 04:50 PM	#14
boobers macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2002	ewwww! Metal is for appliances like itunes and quicktime, address book and ichat and everything else is just too much for me.

Mar 11, 2003, 04:54 PM	#15
smashedapart macrumors member Join Date: Mar 2002	I have an idea... It's a little out there, but, has anyone considered that Apple might be turning Mail into an entry-level mail program? Think about it, iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, all of these consumer-oriented apps sport the metal interface. Maybe there's more to this than what's on the surface. Perhaps Apple is working on a pro Mail app like Outlook and is planning to use the metal theme to separate the two...? It kinda fits with the rumors that Apple has been working on their own Office suite. Just an idea... -- smashedapart

Mar 11, 2003, 05:05 PM	#18
Backtothemac macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana	Hey Mrs V! good job on that. I like it. I wish the entire OS was metal. If only I could do that somehow. __________________ MacBook 2.4GHZ 3GB Ram 320GB HD

Mar 11, 2003, 05:06 PM	#19
Goblin2099 macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York City	Heh, I've had mail metallifized for about a year now. I don't like brushed metal on everything, but Mail seems better to me with it. __________________ World Shmorld, I want the moon --les claypool

Mar 11, 2003, 05:10 PM	#21
joed macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dubai, UAE	I had a feeling this was going to happen sooner or later. I think they're loosing the consistency with the OS look, I liked how Quicktime and the iLife bundle are all metal apps, but it seems they want to change all the apps. What about Sherlock and Help? Should these become brushed metal as well, why not just convert all free apps. I don't like it how some are Aqua and the rest are brushed metal. They should think of something different, brushed metal been around for ages - it is so OS9 James. __________________ Mactimeline

Mar 11, 2003, 05:15 PM	#22
Malic macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2002	New machine style?! I just had a thought ... Aqua's pinstripe style mirrored (in spirit) the physical design style of the iMac. With the metal look, is this a sign of things to come? Will all Mac's have a brushed metal "PowerBook" style to them?

Mar 11, 2003, 05:20 PM	#23
coolsoldier macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The 909	Not again... Apple is going WAAAAY overboard with the metal stuff. It looks good in simple apps that usually only have one window (i.e. iTunes, iCal, Calculator), but for apps like Safari, Mail, etc. I just have to go in there with Interface Builder and take the metal out...just means more work for me. Metal only looks decent if they leave some border room around the edge of the window. Remember how strict apple used to be about interface guidelines? Now it seems they're swinging to the other extreme .

Mar 11, 2003, 05:24 PM	#25
Choppaface macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: SFBA	Re: Not again... bleh.... now they're putting it on everything? come on it's getting old really fast...

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