Apple Releases Boot Camp 1.1 - Page 2

NightLord · Aug 15, 2006, 08:10 PM

iSight support is cool, but then again, if you wanna videochat to MSN from within OS X, just grab crossover when it comes out....

mkrishnan · Aug 15, 2006, 08:11 PM

Add me to the list of people very excited about iSight drivers, please. This makes me want a MacBook even more ... although I think I can still wait for Core 2 Duo...

Trippy Jr · Aug 15, 2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NightLord

iSight support is cool, but then again, if you wanna videochat to MSN from within OS X, just grab crossover when it comes out....

Or use aMSN now.

reallynotnick · Aug 15, 2006, 08:18 PM

Any internal drive = yeah

No external drives = boo

I don't want to mess up my internal HDDs for windows, or partition my single HDD in to seperate chunks. It would be great to have an external windows you could change from mac to mac.

syklee26 · Aug 15, 2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Trippy Jr

Or use aMSN now.

i thought aMSN is way too slow for intel macs. or is it universal now?

Dokter_Mac · Aug 15, 2006, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syklee26

i thought aMSN is way too slow for intel macs. or is it universal now?

Yes it is universal :-)

cparker · Aug 15, 2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trippy Jr

Or use aMSN now.

From my experience, aMSN video works (barely

) but no audio.
Maybe it's just me...

Text chat isn't the deal for me. Videoconferencing with family long distance is. Many don't have Macs, and being able to cross videoconference with them is a big deal for me, if Apple makes it happen...

macshark · Aug 15, 2006, 08:25 PM

Does BootCamp work with an OEM version of Windows XP, or does it require a retail copy?

jaxstate · Aug 15, 2006, 08:28 PM

It works on OEM. I was sold a OEM copy and it works fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by macshark

Does BootCamp work with an OEM version of Windows XP, or does it require a retail copy?

This might be a stupid question, but do you have to do the entire install all over again?

cparker · Aug 15, 2006, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macshark

Does BootCamp work with an OEM version of Windows XP, or does it require a retail copy?

I used an OEM version of XP Pro with SP2, and it works perfectly.

Nermal · Aug 15, 2006, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macshark

Does BootCamp work with an OEM version of Windows XP, or does it require a retail copy?

Officially it needs a retail copy, but I believe that OEM copies work too (as do MSDN copies).

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxstate

This might be a stupid question, but do you have to do the entire install all over again?

"If you previously installed Boot Camp beta, you should update to Boot Camp 1.1 beta. You don't need to partition your hard drive again (unless you want to change its size) or reinstall your Macintosh and Windows software or documents, but it's very important to update the Boot Camp Assistant software, create a new Macintosh Drivers for Windows CD and install the updated software it contains on Windows XP. Complete instructions are provided in the Installation and Setup Guide included with the Boot Camp 1.1 beta software."

jaxstate · Aug 15, 2006, 08:35 PM

cool..i've never been one for reading.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nermal

"If you previously installed Boot Camp beta, you should update to Boot Camp 1.1 beta. You don't need to partition your hard drive again (unless you want to change its size) or reinstall your Macintosh and Windows software or documents, but it's very important to update the Boot Camp Assistant software, create a new Macintosh Drivers for Windows CD and install the updated software it contains on Windows XP. Complete instructions are provided in the Installation and Setup Guide included with the Boot Camp 1.1 beta software."

WildPalms · Aug 15, 2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cparker

I can't wait to get home to try this...now I wonder: If the iSight is now supported, will it work with Live Messenger? And more importantly, will this be a sign that iChat in Leopard will work with MSN/Live Messenger next year??

How on earth did you make the jump to thinking this is a sign that iChat will communicate with MSN/Live Messenger? The MSN client does not support video/audio conferencing. That is something that Microsoft can only change. What makes you think Apple have any control over Microsoft software?
*sheesh*

maximile · Aug 15, 2006, 08:50 PM

I wonder if I really need to burn a CD. Couldn't one just open the ISO from inside the package and copy the files across to the Windows partition and then open them from there? (Assuming that it's formatted in FAT, of course).

mcbogster · Aug 15, 2006, 08:51 PM

the headphone issues have been resolved and thats a b

ig plus

crazzyeddie · Aug 15, 2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximile

I wonder if I really need to burn a CD. Couldn't one just open the ISO from inside the package and copy the files across to the Windows partition and then open them from there? (Assuming that it's formatted in FAT, of course).

Yes. I've done this before and it works fine.

Compufix · Aug 15, 2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximile

I wonder if I really need to burn a CD. Couldn't one just open the ISO from inside the package and copy the files across to the Windows partition and then open them from there? (Assuming that it's formatted in FAT, of course).

There is a menu option to save the Macintosh Driver files to a folder. You can then copy the EXE to a USB key, or Windows Accessible drive to run.

Another big thing, is apple supported remapped keys (although input remapper works well) and support for killing the built-in speakers when plugging in headphones.

yeahhhhhhh

-Compufix

Spanky Deluxe · Aug 15, 2006, 08:54 PM

A few notes for some of the people that have been posting in this thread:

1. aMSN does support video with iSights (I often use it with my external one) but doesn't support audio. If you want to do video conferencing to someone with a PC I recommend using aMSN + Skype, it works great for me.

2. Windows on an external disk isn't as great as it sounds. OS X installs can often be used without any problems in another computer with different internals. This even worked with the transition kit installations. Installing OS X on an external hard drive on a DTK and then putting that hard drive in an old iMac G3 works. The new Intel versions of OS X will probably not be backwards compatible with PowerPC machines due to the use of EFI and a different partitioning table, however, switching hard drives between MacBook / MacBook Pro / Mini / iMac and Mac Pro should work as long as OS X is updated to the latest version that was shipped with the Mac.
Windows involves hardware extraction layers and gets very messy if you try to use it in another machine. If its an identical machine it should work and it should also work for Mini to MacBook or iMac to MacBook Pro because they're very similar. A MacPro to any of them will cause issues. All the drivers will be wrong.
So, simply put, being able to install Windows on an external disk would be fine for keeping your Mac innards seperate from Windows entirely but it would be useless for using that install of Windows on various different computers.

cparker · 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildPalms

How on earth did you make the jump to thinking this is a sign that iChat will communicate with MSN/Live Messenger? The MSN client does not support video/audio conferencing. That is something that Microsoft can only change. What makes you think Apple have any control over Microsoft software?
*sheesh*

Uhh..because Windows Live Messenger DOES support video conferencing? Because I'm looking at it right now on my iMac with Windows Live Messenger, and I can see myself with the iSight cam with the new drivers within Live Messenger?

"sheesh" indeed...

guzhogi · Aug 15, 2006, 08:56 PM

One reason why it may be so big (i'm downloading it now, so I don't know yet) might be new firmware, maybe? Glad to see that it has the iSight drivers. I'm using Boot Camp 1.0.2 and when I try using the iSight in Windows, I get the Blue Screen of Death.

It would be cool if Apple also let people run Linux, too. That would take awhile to do all the drivers and I don't know how many people would use it, but it would be nice.

LastLine · Aug 15, 2006, 08:56 PM

Well the iSight works a treat it has to be said

Spanky Deluxe · Aug 15, 2006, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxstate

cool..i've never been one for reading.

Haha, the first to read the instructions it seems. All our questions were answered!!

Spikey115 · Aug 15, 2006, 08:57 PM

I've been thinking about this for a while. When I upgrade to Leopard with final version of Boot Camp, will the windows partition remain if I upgrade or will I have to re-install Windows? What about windows activation? Also, If I wanted to revert back to a Windows-less Mac, but later install Windows again, Will i have to activate? I hope I won't have to purchase another copy of Windows ever again.

kainjow · Aug 15, 2006, 08:59 PM

Let's see if I can get the iSight drivers working through Parallels

kainjow · Aug 15, 2006, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikey115

I've been thinking about this for a while. When I upgrade to Leopard with final version of Boot Camp, will the windows partition remain if I upgrade or will I have to re-install Windows? What about windows activation? Also, If I wanted to revert back to a Windows-less Mac, but later install Windows again, Will i have to activate? I hope I won't have to purchase another copy of Windows ever again.

It'll all stay if you do an Archive and Install. No re-activation.

Aug 15, 2006, 08:11 PM	#27
mkrishnan Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI, USA	Add me to the list of people very excited about iSight drivers, please. This makes me want a MacBook even more ... although I think I can still wait for Core 2 Duo... __________________ Mohan

Aug 15, 2006, 08:25 PM	#33
macshark macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2003	OEM version of Windows Does BootCamp work with an OEM version of Windows XP, or does it require a retail copy?

Aug 15, 2006, 08:54 PM	#43
Spanky Deluxe macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London, UK	A few notes for some of the people that have been posting in this thread: 1. aMSN does support video with iSights (I often use it with my external one) but doesn't support audio. If you want to do video conferencing to someone with a PC I recommend using aMSN + Skype, it works great for me. 2. Windows on an external disk isn't as great as it sounds. OS X installs can often be used without any problems in another computer with different internals. This even worked with the transition kit installations. Installing OS X on an external hard drive on a DTK and then putting that hard drive in an old iMac G3 works. The new Intel versions of OS X will probably not be backwards compatible with PowerPC machines due to the use of EFI and a different partitioning table, however, switching hard drives between MacBook / MacBook Pro / Mini / iMac and Mac Pro should work as long as OS X is updated to the latest version that was shipped with the Mac. Windows involves hardware extraction layers and gets very messy if you try to use it in another machine. If its an identical machine it should work and it should also work for Mini to MacBook or iMac to MacBook Pro because they're very similar. A MacPro to any of them will cause issues. All the drivers will be wrong. So, simply put, being able to install Windows on an external disk would be fine for keeping your Mac innards seperate from Windows entirely but it would be useless for using that install of Windows on various different computers. __________________ "No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space."

Aug 15, 2006, 08:56 PM	#46
LastLine macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2005	Well the iSight works a treat it has to be said __________________ Add me to iMob :-) Friend Code 106634077

Aug 15, 2006, 08:57 PM	#48
Spikey115 macrumors member Join Date: Feb 2006	Another question I've been thinking about this for a while. When I upgrade to Leopard with final version of Boot Camp, will the windows partition remain if I upgrade or will I have to re-install Windows? What about windows activation? Also, If I wanted to revert back to a Windows-less Mac, but later install Windows again, Will i have to activate? I hope I won't have to purchase another copy of Windows ever again.

Aug 15, 2006, 08:10 PM	#26
NightLord macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2005	iSight support is cool, but then again, if you wanna videochat to MSN from within OS X, just grab crossover when it comes out....

Aug 15, 2006, 08:18 PM	#29
reallynotnick macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2005	Any internal drive = yeah No external drives = boo I don't want to mess up my internal HDDs for windows, or partition my single HDD in to seperate chunks. It would be great to have an external windows you could change from mac to mac.

Aug 15, 2006, 08:50 PM	#39
maximile macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Herefordshire, UK	I wonder if I really need to burn a CD. Couldn't one just open the ISO from inside the package and copy the files across to the Windows partition and then open them from there? (Assuming that it's formatted in FAT, of course).

Aug 15, 2006, 08:51 PM	#40
mcbogster macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2006	the headphone issues have been resolved and thats a b ig plus

Aug 15, 2006, 08:56 PM	#45
guzhogi macrumors 65816 Join Date: Aug 2003	One reason why it may be so big (i'm downloading it now, so I don't know yet) might be new firmware, maybe? Glad to see that it has the iSight drivers. I'm using Boot Camp 1.0.2 and when I try using the iSight in Windows, I get the Blue Screen of Death. It would be cool if Apple also let people run Linux, too. That would take awhile to do all the drivers and I don't know how many people would use it, but it would be nice.

Aug 15, 2006, 08:59 PM	#49
kainjow Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Jun 2000	Let's see if I can get the iSight drivers working through Parallels

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