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Old Sep 1, 2006, 05:19 PM   #1
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Mac Updates on Tuesday? More in September?



ThinkSecret points to channel reports indicating that Apple may be preparing for "at least one" product announcement this Tuesday, September 5th, 2006, but were unable to specify which models would see updates.

Meanwhile, more confident reports have pointed to iMac updates on September 12th.

Finally, independent but unconfirmed reports claim that the MacBook will receive quiet speed bumps later this month (Sept 25th), but no word on whether or not the Core 2 Duo would be used.
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Old Sep 1, 2006, 05:28 PM   #2
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Oh, I'm just getting all confused now.

I want an iMac, but if it's only getting Merom rather than Conroe it's not as appealing, but then it could be 23" which would be sweet, but if a headless mac comes out, I could get my own screen, or would a mac mini be enough for me, and then there's the iPod deal, or should I just go back to my original plan to get a MacBook with an external display, as I don't need the pro featres of the MacBook Pro, or do I?.


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Old Sep 1, 2006, 05:44 PM   #3
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It should be cheaper for Apple to go with the faster Conroe cpu, rather than Merom. But I guess using Conroe would require a redesign of the internals.
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Old Sep 4, 2006, 03:49 PM   #4
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But I guess using Conroe would require a redesign of the internals.
No...
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Old Sep 4, 2006, 04:07 PM   #5
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MBPs will be updated tomorrow for sure, you heard it here first.
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MBPs will be updated tomorrow for sure, you heard it here first.
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Old Sep 4, 2006, 08:27 PM   #7
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MBPs will be updated tomorrow for sure, you heard it here first.
that's a pretty bold statement my friend.
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Old Sep 4, 2006, 09:01 PM   #8
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Not going to happen

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MBPs will be updated tomorrow for sure, you heard it here first.
I don't agree....wish I could, but blind confidence is not enough. There are no significant rumors that would suggest so. Just because apple is more secretive than other companies doesn't mean leaks don't get out. Just look at the past.

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/...14124426.shtml

Lead to

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/...16055045.shtml

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http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/...10163952.shtml
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http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/...23023550.shtml

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http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/...31091044.shtml
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http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/...18220111.shtml
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http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/...13194830.shtml

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http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/...19144929.shtml


Right now there are 0 rumors that offer as detailed descriptions as the above rumors do. The speculation->actual product release history shows that there are not enough substantial rumors to support a release tommorow.

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Old Sep 1, 2006, 05:46 PM   #9
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If these rumors are true then it looks like September is going to be a busy month for Apple. New iPods, new iMac, new spec's for the MacBook Pro and MacBook and Mac Mini , plus a movie download service and possibly a OSX update!
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Old Sep 1, 2006, 05:47 PM   #10
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My head!!!!
Good lord, you're worse than I am.

I have my heart set on a new mini, preferably a core duo. But I don't want to spend $799 on one. If they are updated soon, I hope it's not one of those maddening "stealth" updates.
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Old Sep 1, 2006, 06:04 PM   #11
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I'm praying for the MBP update!!

Then I could have it b4 school starts! (just)


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Old Sep 1, 2006, 06:27 PM   #12
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macbook updates just in time for me to purchase? could it be that perfect?

probably not.
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Old Sep 2, 2006, 11:15 AM   #13
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macbook updates just in time for me to purchase? could it be that perfect?

probably not.
Yeah, since MB's are still fairly new, with the most recent update in the product line, it seems like apple wouldn't give them a bump until later. I even think updating the MB by the end of September is a bit optomistic if we're talking Core 2 Duo.

My hope is that they go ahead and update the MBP with C2D on the 5th, but I'm not sure if that's worthy of an announcement or simply a silent update. I just want a C2D MBP now please, thanks. Guess we'll find out on Tuesday, announcement or no.

This news story almost seems like it should be a page one rumor.
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Good lord, you're worse than I am.

I have my heart set on a new mini, preferably a core duo. But I don't want to spend $799 on one. If they are updated soon, I hope it's not one of those maddening "stealth" updates.
lol, I'm in exactly the same boat...
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Old Sep 2, 2006, 08:09 AM   #15
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lol, I'm in exactly the same boat...
Me too!
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Old Sep 2, 2006, 10:14 AM   #16
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Cinema Display updates! woot!
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Old Sep 2, 2006, 08:55 PM   #17
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Okay, I'll post.

Mac Book

Apple either is getting a new chip discount amounting to the equivelant of their entire past profit, or they had a supply agreement "leveling" the cost of Core 1 Duo chips such that they either must continue putting them in MacBooks for a few more months or more, or they must shift use of those chips to increased sales of Mac Minis.

I say a Core 2 Duo upgrade is NOT in the immediate horizon. Too bad too.

On the positive side this clearly differentiates MacBook from Mac Book Pro very soon.

Mac Book Pro "Merom" (Powerbook G6)

MacBook Pro (ala Powerbook) was neglected for so long that the very moment it can get Merom, it will. I say that announcement is GOING to happen in September. Besides it is a straight chip upgrade with no major motherboard mods. It will probably get an error correction Rev. in any case.

Mac-Mini

This is a wildcard. I believe the rumours that they will go to all dual core. The chip price has dropped to the point where single core is silly. Apple has a history of manufacturing crippleware. Are those days over?

As for both the Mac-Mini and the MacBook, the ability of Apple to declare the entire product line BOTH dual core and 64 bit compliant (Core 2 Duo "Merom") is compelling indeed. I say it will happen at WWDC 07.

X-serve and Mac Pro are stable.

iMac

Steve seems to have an afinity for the iMac (interim Mac) perhaps the iCEO will continue with that afinity and upgrade it to Merom just because he can at the same price point or so.

The alternative would be to keep it as is, maybe with insignificant speed bumps and SIGNIFICANTLY increase profit margins in light of decreased chip marginal cost on Core 1 Duo. That's what I would do. Demand is relatively inelastic. Perhaps an "upper end 23 inch + Merom" iMac. It will still be interim.

X-serve Mini and Mac-Midi.

There has been speculation of a Mac-Mini on steroids or with expandability. Good idea but not likely. Apple tends to be an "all-in one product company" good or bad.

The XSM has real market potential especially if they are themselves stackable ala the Mini. They would be headless. They could be marketed to SCHOOLS, executives, programmers, and IT geeks. It would be a great near zero development cost addition to the "pro" line. Also because it would be the "NeXT" of the Apple product line, given a luggable and expandable form factor WITH the SERVER version of the software, it would qualify for one more Steve Job-ism. Insanely Great!! And claims of reality distortion field would be nullified by actual performance and capabilities of the hardware and software. "Touche".

iPod video.

It's time for a screen centric ultra portable processor/storage device. an iPod and a remote control, an internet wireless device (hook your MacBook to it via cheater plug gigabit ethernet), hence a phone of sorts too. All functions in software/firmware and thus this one size fits all device can also be used for POS, Barcodes, Data collection and display in medical and scientific fields, etc. Emphasis on etc.

Make it so.

Many of my comments on chip adoption patterns are based on the fact that Core 1 and 2 Duo will be with us for 2-3 years minumum. Why not stretch the product line and leave one last vestage of Apple crippleware in place, by not upgrading QUITE as fast as possible from Core 1 to 2 in low-end products?

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Old Sep 3, 2006, 08:59 AM   #18
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Wow. Rocketman said a lot....just wish you'd mentioned something along the lines of a media center
Even if it was an updated FrontRow that allowed other vendors to insert additional items (e.g. a Live TV via tv tuner option)

Oh well, I keep hoping.
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Old Sep 3, 2006, 11:24 AM   #19
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What rocketman says seems to have substance and i agree.

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Okay, I'll post.

Mac Book

Apple either is getting a new chip discount amounting to the equivelant of their entire past profit, or they had a supply agreement "leveling" the cost of Core 1 Duo chips such that they either must continue putting them in MacBooks for a few more months or more, or they must shift use of those chips to increased sales of Mac Minis.

I say a Core 2 Duo upgrade is NOT in the immediate horizon. Too bad too.

On the positive side this clearly differentiates MacBook from Mac Book Pro very soon.

Mac Book Pro "Merom" (Powerbook G6)

MacBook Pro (ala Powerbook) was neglected for so long that the very moment it can get Merom, it will. I say that announcement is GOING to happen in September. Besides it is a straight chip upgrade with no major motherboard mods. It will probably get an error correction Rev. in any case.

Mac-Mini

This is a wildcard. I believe the rumours that they will go to all dual core. The chip price has dropped to the point where single core is silly. Apple has a history of manufacturing crippleware. Are those days over?
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I was correct.


As for both the Mac-Mini and the MacBook, the ability of Apple to declare the entire product line BOTH dual core and 64 bit compliant (Core 2 Duo "Merom") is compelling indeed. I say it will happen at WWDC 07.

X-serve and Mac Pro are stable.

iMac

Steve seems to have an afinity for the iMac (interim Mac) perhaps the iCEO will continue with that afinity and upgrade it to Merom just because he can at the same price point or so.
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The alternative would be to keep it as is, maybe with insignificant speed bumps and SIGNIFICANTLY increase profit margins in light of decreased chip marginal cost on Core 1 Duo. That's what I would do. Demand is relatively inelastic. Perhaps an "upper end 23 inch + Merom" iMac. It will still be interim.

X-serve Mini and Mac-Midi.

There has been speculation of a Mac-Mini on steroids or with expandability. Good idea but not likely. Apple tends to be an "all-in one product company" good or bad.

The XSM has real market potential especially if they are themselves stackable ala the Mini. They would be headless. They could be marketed to SCHOOLS, executives, programmers, and IT geeks. It would be a great near zero development cost addition to the "pro" line. Also because it would be the "NeXT" of the Apple product line, given a luggable and expandable form factor WITH the SERVER version of the software, it would qualify for one more Steve Job-ism. Insanely Great!! And claims of reality distortion field would be nullified by actual performance and capabilities of the hardware and software. "Touche".

iPod video.

It's time for a screen centric ultra portable processor/storage device. an iPod and a remote control, an internet wireless device (hook your MacBook to it via cheater plug gigabit ethernet), hence a phone of sorts too. All functions in software/firmware and thus this one size fits all device can also be used for POS, Barcodes, Data collection and display in medical and scientific fields, etc. Emphasis on etc.

Make it so.

Many of my comments on chip adoption patterns are based on the fact that Core 1 and 2 Duo will be with us for 2-3 years minumum. Why not stretch the product line and leave one last vestage of Apple crippleware in place, by not upgrading QUITE as fast as possible from Core 1 to 2 in low-end products?

Rocketman
Apparantly we have short wait until my entire list comes true.

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Old Sep 6, 2006, 11:56 AM   #21
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Oh lord of all apple predictions, Rocketman Do you expect C2D Macbook Pros on or before the 12th?
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Since this seems to be the forum for those of us waiting for the MBP, i'll go ahead and post some observations. I called the local apple store and asked when they were getting the new iMac's, he said within a few days. Maybe some MBP's in the same shipment?

also, if anyone is curious, you can't get the hard drive upgrades in the store, even if the user accesible hard drive is added to the MBP.

finally, I noticed that the default speed on the iMac's are the c2d 2.16's, and it's an extra 250$ for the 2.33. do you all think we'll se the 2.33 in the top line of MBP's? i sure hope so...

mmm, MBP... it's gonna be tomorrow, i can feel it.
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Since this seems to be the forum for those of us waiting for the MBP, i'll go ahead and post some observations. I called the local apple store and asked when they were getting the new iMac's, he said within a few days. Maybe some MBP's in the same shipment?

also, if anyone is curious, you can't get the hard drive upgrades in the store, even if the user accesible hard drive is added to the MBP.

finally, I noticed that the default speed on the iMac's are the c2d 2.16's, and it's an extra 250$ for the 2.33. do you all think we'll se the 2.33 in the top line of MBP's? i sure hope so...

mmm, MBP... it's gonna be tomorrow, i can feel it.
I hope it's tomorrow but i don't really think apple will update it on a thursday, but who knows.
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Since this seems to be the forum for those of us waiting for the MBP, i'll go ahead and post some observations. I called the local apple store and asked when they were getting the new iMac's, he said within a few days. Maybe some MBP's in the same shipment?

finally, I noticed that the default speed on the iMac's are the c2d 2.16's, and it's an extra 250$ for the 2.33. do you all think we'll se the 2.33 in the top line of MBP's? i sure hope so...

mmm, MBP... it's gonna be tomorrow, i can feel it.
I doubt we'll see MBP's with merom until after the "showtime" movie/new media press conference on the 12th. I believe the new 24" iMac unvieling today is very much a part of that plan and will be featured in the event. Steve will announce the new movie store with all of the bells and whistles, and then I'm guessing he'll say in there somewhere something about how "you can watch your iMovie movies on the brand new 24" iMac, made specifically with the new movie store in mind."

That's what I'm thinking anyway.
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