Register FAQ/Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Welcome to the Mac Forums forums. Please read the FAQ if you have questions. Register to participate.

 
Go Back   Mac Forums > Archive > Archives of Old Posts > MacRumors News Discussion (archive)
TouchArcade.com - iPhone Game Reviews and News

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Sep 9, 2006, 02:36 AM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
iMac Core 2 Duo Benchmarks

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif

MacCentral posted a first look at the new Core 2 Duo iMac along with some early benchmarks.

The new iMacs which were released on Wednesday incorporate the latest Core 2 Duo processor from Intel. The Core 2 Duo represents the continuation of the Core Duo line which first made its appearance in Apple computers in January. Intel has maintained that the new chips would provide roughly 20% improvement in performance.

MacCentral tested the new 17" 2GHz iMac and 20" 2.16GHz iMac and compared them to the previous 20" 2GHz Core Duo and the 2.66GHz Mac Pro.

The most direct comparison between the two processors comes between the 17" 2GHz Core 2 Duo iMac and the 20" 2GHz Core Duo iMac. The overall score was 10% better in the new model while the individual tests showed gains up to 20%.
MacRumors is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 02:38 AM   #2
spicyapple
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Is 20% speed improvement a lot for a core 2 designation?
spicyapple is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 02:42 AM   #3
arn
macrumors god
 
arn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Send a message via AIM to arn
Quote:
Originally Posted by spicyapple
Is 20% speed improvement a lot for a core 2 designation?
Well, they said 20%, and it appears to be true in some tests.

It looks pretty good since it's not any more expensive than the previous iMacs.

arn
arn is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 02:42 AM   #4
EricNau
macrumors Demi-God
 
EricNau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Not a huge difference, but every little bit helps.

But those Mac Pros... Wow!
EricNau is online now  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 02:44 AM   #5
Chundles
macrumors Demi-God
 
Chundles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: The Gong, Australia
Quote:
Originally Posted by spicyapple
Is 20% speed improvement a lot for a core 2 designation?
The designation "Core 2" comes from the fact that it's a whole new architecture in the chip. The original "Core" processors aren't based on the Core architecture, they were based on the Pentium M. The Core 2 processors (Merom, Conroe and Woodcrest) are based on a 65nm dual-core 64 bit architecture - the desktop and workstation chips are based around the mobile Merom architecture.

Core 2 promised about 20% more performance at the same power requirement as the Core chip at the same clockspeed.
__________________
This is going straight to the Pool Room
Chundles is online now  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 02:49 AM   #6
randyharris
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
20% is a decent improvement in speed. However, I won't be replacing my 20" Intel iMac any time soon. There will be a time when I can't resist the upgrade, and a 24" is very appealing. But it's not a necessity - it's a desire.

The way things progress, I might find myself looking at a 3ghz iMac Core 4 Duo's in a couple years - and when that come out I'll be looking more closely.

Randy at http://www.MacSeven.com
randyharris is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 02:55 AM   #7
DMann
macrumors Demi-God
 
DMann's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: 10023
20% Improvement

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macrumors
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif

MacCentral posted a first look at the new Core 2 Duo iMac along with some early benchmarks.

The new iMacs which were released on Wednesday incorporate the latest Core 2 Duo processor from Intel. The Core 2 Duo represents the continuation of the Core Duo line which first made its appearance in Apple computers in January. Intel has maintained that the new chips would provide roughly 20% improvement in performance.

MacCentral tested the new 17" 2GHz iMac and 20" 2.16GHz iMac and compared them to the previous 20" 2GHz Core Duo and the 2.66GHz Mac Pro.

The most direct comparison between the two processors comes between the 17" 2GHz Core 2 Duo iMac and the 20" 2GHz Core Duo iMac. The overall score was 10% better in the new model while the individual tests showed gains up to 20%.
Wonder how the 24" iMac at 2.33GHz will fare.
__________________
Think Different - Innovate
DMann is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 02:57 AM   #8
VicMacs
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Dominican Republic
Send a message via ICQ to VicMacs Send a message via AIM to VicMacs
now is the Xeon processor faster than the core 2 duo?
__________________
@ MacWorld
VicMacs is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 02:57 AM   #9
Sol
macrumors 65816
 
Sol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Australia
Send a message via ICQ to Sol Send a message via AIM to Sol
Did a certain platform jumping red-cap wearing Italian plumber write the headline?

Mama mia! iMac Core 2 Duo Benchamarks!
__________________
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
Sol is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 02:59 AM   #10
swingerofbirch
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: The Amalgamated States of Central North America
I'm getting a 17" 2 ghz C2D iMac (that's a mouthful) soon.

Sounds exciting with all that speed! I don't know what to do with it! I guess my iTunes visualizations will be smoother, and I'll have the Dashboard ripple effect.

I also work in iMovie sometimes so the speed gain will be nice.

I am moving up from an eMac 1 gigahertz G4. So I'm sure it will seem very fast to me. Probably more than I need.
__________________
Blog of Failure
After using a PC all day, coming home to my Mac is like a tall, cold glass of peach iced tea.
swingerofbirch is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 03:02 AM   #11
Chundles
macrumors Demi-God
 
Chundles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: The Gong, Australia
Quote:
Originally Posted by VicMacs
now is the Xeon processor faster than the core 2 duo?
The Xeon processor used in the Mac Pro is the name for the Core 2 Duo workstation processor. It was originally codenamed "Woodcrest" and is the high-end version of the three Core 2 Duo processors.

Merom = Core 2 Duo
Conroe = Core 2 Duo
Woodcrest = Xeon
__________________
This is going straight to the Pool Room
Chundles is online now  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 03:08 AM   #12
spriter
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: England
Quote:
Originally Posted by swingerofbirch
I am moving up from an eMac 1 gigahertz G4. So I'm sure it will seem very fast to me. Probably more than I need.
You're in for a treat. I went from a 1.2GHz G4 to MacBook (2HGz Yonah) and it's streets ahead in terms of performance. 4 times faster encoding a DVD with Handbrake is a godsend.

The Merom iMac's are a great spec for the price.
__________________
MacBook Air (Rev.A) 1.6GHz 80GB HD: 20" ACD : iPhone 8GB (Rev.A) 3.0 JB/UL : 2G Shuffle
spriter is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 03:12 AM   #13
kresh
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Whiplash

I guess I've got mind whip lash from the transition to Intel. It's still kinda hard to wrap the mind around these speed improvments. I'm still used to the very modest speed bumps from the PPC days.

How wonderfully refreshing it is to see these leaps in speed with each product update. I hope this pace keeps up. Some may disagree, but I think it's spectacular compared to what we used to get from Moto/Freescale/IBM.

I find myself thinking about what the Adobe CEO, Bruce Chizen, said to Steve when it was announced Apple was switching to Intel.

"What took you so long"!

edit: had to change my signature.
__________________
Please click here to help add native TrueCrypt encryption to Pathfinder by voting for this feature in CocoaTech's Feature Suggestion Voting System, No registration required. Spread the word!

Last edited by kresh : Sep 9, 2006 at 03:19 AM.
kresh is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 03:16 AM   #14
Spaceman Spiff
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Benchamarks, eh?

As long as it's not beating the Mac Pro, I'm happy.
Spaceman Spiff is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 03:20 AM   #15
Lollypop
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Send a message via AIM to Lollypop Send a message via MSN to Lollypop Send a message via Yahoo to Lollypop Send a message via Skype™ to Lollypop
Quote:
Originally Posted by kresh
I guess I've got mind whip lash from the transition to Intel. It's still kinda hard to wrap the mind around these speed improvments. I'm still used to the very modest speed bumps from the PPC days.

How wonderfully refreshing it is to see these leaps in speed with each product update. I hope this pace keeps up. Some may disagree, but I think it's spectacular compared to what we used to get from Moto/Freescale/IBM.
Its nice to see all these speed improvements, but at some point its going to end, Apple chose to transition at a very interesting time, Intel wont be releaing new chips like this all the time... but at least we can compare apples to apples now!
__________________
What do you get when u cross a nun with apple? A computer that will never go down on you!!
Lollypop is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 03:22 AM   #16
freiheit
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: California
Multi-processor aware software - this IS the 21st century, right?

Quote:
But because not all applications and tasks take full advantage of the Mac multiprocessing capabilities,
And I'm thinking... why?! 10 years ago BeOS had this down pat. The whole system was multi-threaded and multi-processor aware from the kernel all the way up through the user interface including the system services used by all native applications. It was amazingly responsive and was reported (in major publications) to gain as much as 60-70% performance by having a second CPU. I realize MacOS X is based on some old NeXTStep code which was not made for multiple processors, but come on! This is the 21st century and Apple's been selling dual processor machines for about 5 years now.

Anyway, this is great news. I'd been drooling over the new iMacs since they were announced and wondering how much I might gain by upgrading from my 2GHz G5 PowerMac. It's very enticing.
__________________
Don Eitner
I spent $2,000 buying a Mac rather than spending $0 to install Linux onto my existing PC... because there is no guiding vision behind Linux.
freiheit is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 03:27 AM   #17
Erasmus
macrumors 65816
 
Erasmus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Australia, Where Omnius can't find me!
Ah, less money for 4" more screen, a ~20% faster C2D CPU, a much much faster GPU, etc? Thankyou mister Jobs! Can't wait to see what Tuesday's iPods will be like! Not that I intend to get one, or maybe I do? Who knows? And here's to some sort of Mac with Kentsfield and R600 (More likely G80 ) at Macworld 2007, or maybe even earlier with a bit of luck!

It's good to know that one can get a 24" screen, 2.33 Core 2 Duo goodness with the Geforce 7600 256Mb and 2 gig RAM from 5 grand with enough cash spare to buy a new Macbook. (Well at least in edu pricing)

BTW, this is a bit irrelevant, but can anyone explain to me how one gets Xgrid, and what one needs to make it work? ie. Does it cost money, or can it be downloaded from the net, and do u need a FiberChannel card to make it work? Would be cool to have a Macbook Xgridded to a 24" iMac. Preferrably Merom Macbook and Conroe iMac. But might take a while to get that

Never mind. : (
Need 10.4 Server apparently, and at least 3 computers to make it worthwhile, it looks like.
__________________
Had: G4 Cube
Have: 2.2 Macbook Pro
Want: Quad core "Sandy Bridge" Macbook Pro ASAP.
Erasmus is online now  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 03:34 AM   #18
bloodycape
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cant wait to see what the mbp can do with that chip. If only we could upgrade our core duo chips to the new core 2 duo easily.
__________________
iBook G4 12in 1.2ghz, 768mb of ram - still alive & running ---> MBP 15in 2.0, 1.5gig of ram; Sony Vaio TT190-wish I could dual boot OSX on it easily.
bloodycape is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 03:36 AM   #19
DeSnousa
macrumors 65816
 
DeSnousa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Any word on the difference between the C2D 2.16 and the 2.33? Is it worth the upgrade price?
DeSnousa is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 03:53 AM   #20
iMikeT
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: California
I wonder how the 24" iMac equiped with a 2.33ghz Core 2 Duo would fare in that benchmark.
iMikeT is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 05:03 AM   #21
mdntcallr
macrumors 65816
 
mdntcallr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Los Angeles, CA
i would think that the imac 24" 2.33 is looking mighty nice about now.
__________________
"Bite my Shiny Metal Ass!" Bender (Futurama)
mdntcallr is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 05:27 AM   #22
ezekielrage_99
macrumors 68020
 
ezekielrage_99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
That's pretty quick but I thought there may have been a little more speed from the Core 2 Duos.
__________________
"There is a world elsewhere" - Coriolanus
ezekielrage_99 is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 05:49 AM   #23
miniConvert
macrumors 68030
 
miniConvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kent, UK - the 'Garden of England'.
Send a message via AIM to miniConvert Send a message via MSN to miniConvert
I think we all knew that Merom would only bring modest performance gains. I'm surprised they're as high as they are. I'm still not sure why they're using the laptop line of processors in their mid range desktop but it's certainly a testament to the power of Intel's new chips. If it keeps the iMac's cool and efficient then it's all good.
__________________
Where are we? What the hell is going on? --Hide And Seek, Imogen Heap
miniConvert is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 05:57 AM   #24
Stridder44
macrumors 68040
 
Stridder44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: California
Quote:
Originally Posted by swingerofbirch
I am moving up from an eMac 1 gigahertz G4. So I'm sure it will seem very fast to me. Probably more than I need.

Im still stuck on my 800 mhz G4 with it's crappy 2X Graphics card. 2X!! Oh how I wait for the day when...
__________________
The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
(Warning: Graphic images)

MacBook Pro 15.4"/2.5 GHz/250GB/4GB RAM
iMac G4 17"/800 Mhz/80GB/512GB RAM
Stridder44 is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2006, 05:59 AM   #25
Stridder44
macrumors 68040
 
Stridder44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: California
Quote:
Originally Posted by freiheit
And I'm thinking... why?! 10 years ago BeOS had this down pat. The whole system was multi-threaded and multi-processor aware from the kernel all the way up through the user interface including the system services used by all native applications. It was amazingly responsive and was reported (in major publications) to gain as much as 60-70% performance by having a second CPU. I realize MacOS X is based on some old NeXTStep code which was not made for multiple processors, but come on! This is the 21st century and Apple's been selling dual processor machines for about 5 years now.

Anyway, this is great news. I'd been drooling over the new iMacs since they were announced and wondering how much I might gain by upgrading from my 2GHz G5 PowerMac. It's very enticing.
I agree. This is ridiculous. It's like buying an HD tv and not getting HD channels...
__________________
The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology
(Warning: Graphic images)

MacBook Pro 15.4"/2.5 GHz/250GB/4GB RAM
iMac G4 17"/800 Mhz/80GB/512GB RAM
Stridder44 is offline  

 

Mac Forums > Archive > Archives of Old Posts > MacRumors News Discussion (archive)

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:56 PM.

Mac News | Mac Rumors | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2002-2009, MacRumors.com, LLC