ThinkSecret's iPod Rendering

MacRumors · 07:16 PM

For what it's worth, the ThinkSecret iPod rendering that has spawned so much discussion is indeed accurate.

And the new iPod will be coming in 10GB, 15GB and 30GB sizes as was reported.

New Toshiba drives were reported in February... spawning speculation about iPods built around those specifications. No 15GB drive, however, was reported at that time.

DHagan4755 · Apr 10, 2003, 06:54 PM

If it's real, ThinkSecret will have a Cease and Deceast from Apple soon and then it will be removed from ThinkSecret's site.

swahilibill · Apr 10, 2003, 06:58 PM

what the hell, how do they know this is true, DONT LET IT BE, IT IS SO ****ING UGLY!!!

macphisto · Apr 10, 2003, 07:00 PM

Cool. But I still like the original design better.

HasanDaddy · Apr 10, 2003, 07:01 PM

I'm not too crazy about the design, or the lack of Firewire

I think I might be investing in a 20 gigger

Tiauguinho · Apr 10, 2003, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by swahilibill
what the hell, how do they know this is true, DONT LET IT BE, IT IS SO ****ING UGLY!!!

Im a proud owner of a 10Gb model with the touch wheel... if that draw is the example of the next iPod then Apple is going a big step back in terms of design and User Interface since the buttons around the wheel are awsome and very easy to play with. We shall see what they will come up with...

swahilibill · Apr 10, 2003, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by Tiauguinho
Im a proud owner of a 10Gb model with the touch wheel... if that draw is the example of the next iPod then Apple is going a big step back in terms of design and User Interface since the buttons around the wheel are awsome and very easy to play with. We shall see what they will come up with...

same here bro, i got the sam iPod, adn i love it, and you are absolutely right when you say they will be taking a step back. I hope this is not true, it will look like every other mP3 player. Plus, no other cases out right now will work with it. BAD IDEA APPLE...

arn · Apr 10, 2003, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by DHagan4755
If it's real, ThinkSecret will have a Cease and Deceast from Apple soon and then it will be removed from ThinkSecret's site.

not true

arn · Apr 10, 2003, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by HasanDaddy
I'm not too crazy about the design, or the lack of Firewire

I didn't get the impression that firewire was dropped from the article

arn

erik1975 · Apr 10, 2003, 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by Macrumors
For what it's worth, the ThinkSecret iPod rendering that has spawned so much discussion is indeed accurate.

And the new iPod will be coming in 10GB, 15GB and 30GB sizes as was reported.

New Toshiba drives were reported in February... spawning speculation about iPods built around those specifications. No 15GB drive, however, was reported at that time.

So you are saying that you have solid evidence that this is true? Care to reveal your sources?

BTW, no matter what it looks like when it comes out, I am buying one. I too have been waiting since Macworld to buy one. I can't hold out much longer!

Wuddel · Apr 10, 2003, 07:11 PM

I will probably buy one if the 10GB-Model gets updated too and there is no DRM-nerf. I am uncertain about the 15GB-model. BTW i think it won't lack firewire but get an additional USB2.0-Interface, although i can't remember any PC's around with USB2.0 and without FireWire.

MorganX · Apr 10, 2003, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by HasanDaddy
I'm not too crazy about the design, or the lack of Firewire

I think I might be investing in a 20 gigger

I don't think Firewire will be dropped. The interface will probably be in the cradle with a proprietary connector on the bottom of the iPod.

I'd like to hear about any software enhancements. The design doesn't bother me, and I think your hand would have to be pretty small to have to use 2 hands or adjust the unit in your palm.

Since I use it mostly lifting weights and on the treadmill, it will be easier for me to reach and feel for the controls. I just hope it looks good and the buttons don't portrude much.

Tom800 · Apr 10, 2003, 07:14 PM

How the heck do you know? Tell us some more, and where AAC is, and how you know, or don't say it. It's just cruel and petty.

esome · Apr 10, 2003, 07:15 PM

does that mean just teh form or does that include the color too?

I mean, perhaps that sketch is only meant to convey the general shape and the button layout and doesn't reflect the true color or the case material.

Arn, can you elaborate on what "rendering" is meant to encompass here?

Thanks!

Tiauguinho · Apr 10, 2003, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by swahilibill
same here bro, i got the sam iPod, adn i love it, and you are absolutely right when you say they will be taking a step back. I hope this is not true, it will look like every other mP3 player. Plus, no other cases out right now will work with it. BAD IDEA APPLE...

You are right swahilibill, it would look like every other mp3 player! And i hope they dont ditch the Chrome back... that thing can save your life if you get lost in the woods and need to signal to a Airplane!!

Nipsy · Apr 10, 2003, 07:17 PM

While I could use more space, I LOVE the current control layout.

I also travel alot with my 20GB, and all I have to do is bring a teeny adapter, and my firewire cable to charge anywhere.

I don't want to have to remove a cradle from my desktop setup every time I travel, and carry it as well as a power adapter (if one still exists).

weev · Apr 10, 2003, 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by arn
I didn't get the impression that firewire was dropped from the article

arn

Absolutely, Apple drop firewire?, bwahahahahahahha. Next thing you know, it'll only sync up to Music Machine.

On the first impression of the 'new' design - boring as anything.

Canst believe they'd employ such pedestrian industrial design. Not owned an ipod one but the current buttons (from my limited expererience) made sense while the new ones you'll need to 'braille' your device each time to find the correct button.

It cant be so...

Brian Hickman · Apr 10, 2003, 07:22 PM

I don't see why everyone is complaining about the buttons. Sure, aesthetically, it may not be as pretty. But, with the buttons directly below the screen, they may be multifunctional and work with a new integrated menu system. Until we see what the new iPod software's user interface looks like, I don't think anyone can say it is less user-friendly.

By the way, I like the new button placement. It will work much better for people with big hands (like myself).

pkradd · Apr 10, 2003, 07:24 PM

Apple cannot stop anybody from offering mockups or drawings of an upcoming product. They can stop them if they show an actual photograph (which would have to be stolen). There will be no cease and desist. The rendering is very rough and the actual new iPod will look much nicer. The upper buttons will be slightly curved (see Loop rumors for their rendition). The bottom of the iPod will have the firewire port. You can plug the cable in directly or through the cradle. (Just guesses).

vniow · Apr 10, 2003, 07:24 PM

:puke:

If in fact that is real, I'm going to go looking for a used/refurbished one.

Blech.

bokdol · Apr 10, 2003, 07:25 PM

so now what happens to the prices of the old ones now.. if it is indeed true?

swahilibill · Apr 10, 2003, 07:26 PM

i think its a bad idea to put FW port on the botton. even with a cover, it will still get really dirty adn scratched up. I usuall put my iPid in my pants pocket, and it would be realyl **** it up if the port was on the botton.

BillyShears · Apr 10, 2003, 07:38 PM

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i think its a bad idea to put FW port on the botton. even with a cover, it will still get really dirty adn scratched up. I usuall put my iPid in my pants pocket, and it would be realyl **** it up if the port was on the botton.

Hmm, a 2 cent rubber cover should cover that port.

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so now what happens to the prices of the old ones now.. if it is indeed true?

Depends... I think you MAY see old ones at apple.com... but on eBay... well if the new ones are as HORRIBLE as everyone seems to think, I am guessing they may increase in cost... otherwise decrease.

pseudobrit · Apr 10, 2003, 07:43 PM

This rumor is so damned solid it ended up on The Reg

FireWire is here to stay.

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The new model, to be offered in 15GB and 30GB incarnations, not only sports a redesigned control system that adds QuickTime Player-style, fast forward, and track skip (forward and backward) buttons, removing them from around the scroll wheel, but will ship with a music transfer/recharge cradle.

Fortunately the cradle doesn't replace the iPod's 1394 port, but provides a more consumer-friendly way of sitting the iPod on your desktop. It also provides a USB 2.0 connection for Windows users.

mkaake · Apr 10, 2003, 07:45 PM

honestly, how many products has apple had that people were really worried about looking like crap? and how many times has apple actually brought out a product that looked like crap? they may make some silly business decisions from time to time, but they're not in the business of putting out products that look like crap (at least from the cube on)...

so while i think that 'commissioned rendering' looked like total crap, i'm not worried cause apple knows what looks good to us better than what we do. and i think they've proven that time and again...

matt

Apr 10, 2003, 06:51 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	ThinkSecret's iPod Rendering For what it's worth, the ThinkSecret iPod rendering that has spawned so much discussion is indeed accurate. And the new iPod will be coming in 10GB, 15GB and 30GB sizes as was reported. New Toshiba drives were reported in February... spawning speculation about iPods built around those specifications. No 15GB drive, however, was reported at that time. Last edited by arn : Apr 10, 2003 at 07:16 PM.

Apr 10, 2003, 06:58 PM	#3
swahilibill macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch	what the hell, how do they know this is true, DONT LET IT BE, IT IS SO ****ING UGLY!!! __________________ iMac 800 G4, 512MB Ram, 60GB, 15" iPod 3G 10GB- ZooPod/Ice and Caribbean iSkin eXos Entire collection of the greatest rock band of all time: U2

Apr 10, 2003, 07:14 PM	#13
Tom800 macrumors member Join Date: Nov 2002	Arn, dude How the heck do you know? Tell us some more, and where AAC is, and how you know, or don't say it. It's just cruel and petty. __________________ ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Apr 10, 2003, 07:15 PM	#14
esome macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2002	the "rendering" is accurate but... does that mean just teh form or does that include the color too? I mean, perhaps that sketch is only meant to convey the general shape and the button layout and doesn't reflect the true color or the case material. Arn, can you elaborate on what "rendering" is meant to encompass here? Thanks!

Apr 10, 2003, 07:17 PM	#16
Nipsy macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2002	While I could use more space, I LOVE the current control layout. I also travel alot with my 20GB, and all I have to do is bring a teeny adapter, and my firewire cable to charge anywhere. I don't want to have to remove a cradle from my desktop setup every time I travel, and carry it as well as a power adapter (if one still exists). __________________ But then again, whereas Apple is being run by a brilliant marketer with the uncanny ability to bend people to his will, Gateway is being run by a man perfectly willing to go on television and show the world that he solicits business advice from a talking cow...

Apr 10, 2003, 06:54 PM	#2
DHagan4755 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Massachusetts	If it's real, ThinkSecret will have a Cease and Deceast from Apple soon and then it will be removed from ThinkSecret's site.

Apr 10, 2003, 07:00 PM	#4
macphisto macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: At home	Cool. But I still like the original design better.

Apr 10, 2003, 07:01 PM	#5
HasanDaddy macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Colorado	I'm not too crazy about the design, or the lack of Firewire I think I might be investing in a 20 gigger

Apr 10, 2003, 07:11 PM	#11
Wuddel macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2003	I will probably buy one if the 10GB-Model gets updated too and there is no DRM-nerf. I am uncertain about the 15GB-model. BTW i think it won't lack firewire but get an additional USB2.0-Interface, although i can't remember any PC's around with USB2.0 and without FireWire.

Apr 10, 2003, 07:22 PM	#18
Brian Hickman macrumors 6502a Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Florida	New iPod Button Configuration I don't see why everyone is complaining about the buttons. Sure, aesthetically, it may not be as pretty. But, with the buttons directly below the screen, they may be multifunctional and work with a new integrated menu system. Until we see what the new iPod software's user interface looks like, I don't think anyone can say it is less user-friendly. By the way, I like the new button placement. It will work much better for people with big hands (like myself). __________________ MP 2.8GHz Octo/10.6/10GB/X25-M G2 160GB + 2.25TB RAID 0/Drobo/GTX 285 32GB iPod Touch/80GB 5.5G iPod (Black) Nikon D80/105mm f2.8 Micro/50mm f1.4 AF-S/18-135mm/SB-600

Apr 10, 2003, 07:24 PM	#19
pkradd macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2001	It's a drawing not a stolen photograph! Apple cannot stop anybody from offering mockups or drawings of an upcoming product. They can stop them if they show an actual photograph (which would have to be stolen). There will be no cease and desist. The rendering is very rough and the actual new iPod will look much nicer. The upper buttons will be slightly curved (see Loop rumors for their rendition). The bottom of the iPod will have the firewire port. You can plug the cable in directly or through the cradle. (Just guesses).

Apr 10, 2003, 07:24 PM	#20
vniow macrumors 603 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I accidentally my whole location.	:puke: If in fact that is real, I'm going to go looking for a used/refurbished one. Blech.

Apr 10, 2003, 07:25 PM	#21
bokdol macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA	so now what happens to the prices of the old ones now.. if it is indeed true?

Apr 10, 2003, 07:26 PM	#22
swahilibill macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch	i think its a bad idea to put FW port on the botton. even with a cover, it will still get really dirty adn scratched up. I usuall put my iPid in my pants pocket, and it would be realyl **** it up if the port was on the botton. __________________ iMac 800 G4, 512MB Ram, 60GB, 15" iPod 3G 10GB- ZooPod/Ice and Caribbean iSkin eXos Entire collection of the greatest rock band of all time: U2

Apr 10, 2003, 07:45 PM	#25
mkaake macrumors 65816 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mi	new ipod honestly, how many products has apple had that people were really worried about looking like crap? and how many times has apple actually brought out a product that looked like crap? they may make some silly business decisions from time to time, but they're not in the business of putting out products that look like crap (at least from the cube on)... so while i think that 'commissioned rendering' looked like total crap, i'm not worried cause apple knows what looks good to us better than what we do. and i think they've proven that time and again... matt __________________ oh, and no, i don't j-walk

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