1GHz eMacs?

MacRumors · 02:19 AM

ThinkSecret reports that eMac updates are coming soon...

Quote:

Highly reliable sources said that Apple's consumer eMac lineup will be expanded to three models. In an effort to fill the gap left by the departure of the classic iMac G3, the first will be a bare-bones 800MHz G4 unit that will ship with only a CD-ROM drive. The other two models will ship with a Combo drive and SuperDrive, like today's units, but will now both clock at 1GHz, and include larger hard drives.

Full specs are provided in the article of the upcoming machines, and the exact timing of the release is not specified.

The eMac was introduced in April 2002, and saw price drops in February, 2003. This would be the first major revision of the eMac.

ThinkSecret has also reported on upcoming iBook and iPod revisions -- also due soon.

artificiallife · Apr 15, 2003, 02:18 AM

Revisions are always nice

kansaigaijin · Apr 15, 2003, 02:19 AM

will it boot OS9?

VegetaPunk · Apr 15, 2003, 02:22 AM

They probably will boot into OS 9 Im sure when they stop they will do it will a big anouncment Like the 970

*wishes that he could use 970 right now*

iSmell · Apr 15, 2003, 02:23 AM

If the prices stay the same, this would only make the CRT iMac prices (they're still available to edu) that much more ridiculous.

arn · Apr 15, 2003, 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by VegetaPunk
They probably will boot into OS 9 Im sure when they stop they will do it will a big anouncment

There's already been an announcement. Jobs said that After Jan 1, 2003... all new macs (and faster revisions of current macs) will not boot os 9.

arn

kansaigaijin · Apr 15, 2003, 02:33 AM

and the thinksecret story also says they will not, except educational customers, implying they still want to use 9.

scem0 · Apr 15, 2003, 02:39 AM

I assume these will be priced the same as the current eMacs?

Nermal · Apr 15, 2003, 02:47 AM

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Originally posted by scem0
I assume these will be priced the same as the current eMacs?

"At this time, we're unable to confirm the pricing for the new lineup. However, given the pricing for the two current eMac models -- $999 and $1,299 -- it's possible that the two new top-end models could keep those prices, with the new 800MHz unit shipping below that."

t^3 · Apr 15, 2003, 03:05 AM

How can all the new eMacs have Airport Extreme, but the low end iMac still has regular 'ol Airport?

Nermal · Apr 15, 2003, 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by t^3
How can all the new eMacs have Airport Extreme, but the low end iMac still has regular 'ol Airport?

The same way that the 12" PB has Extreme, and the 15" still has regular

iwantanewmac · Apr 15, 2003, 03:49 AM

Why do they still want to ship a mac with only a cd-rom?
Are there any other company's that ship computers with cd-rom only?

kansaigaijin · Apr 15, 2003, 04:05 AM

extreme question? cause it takes a new motherboard to get it. the new ones will go extreme.

cd-rom? cause its cheap. maybe you don't want users burning discs either for some reason really save money, leave out entirely and netboot.

Datazoid · Apr 15, 2003, 04:32 AM

This is really gonna make iMacs seem like rip-offs, you know. Between the low end tower ($1499) and these eMacs ($999?-$1299?), what is the point of the iMac? The low end iMac, from the sounds of it, will have performance WORSE than a computer $200 less than it, and lets see, a 1Ghz iMac for $1799 vs a 1Ghz eMac for $999 ($299 for superdrive). Moreover, how is AP Extreme going to be on the low-end eMac but not the low-end iMac? Yeah, LCDs are cool, but, its pretty hard to swallow that much cost difference ($5-700) just for a 17" LCD screen (or the 15" for that matter). iMacs are positioned at a mid-range (for Apple) price level, and I believe the PERFORMANCE should match, not just the monitor.

I need coffee...

physicsnerd · Apr 15, 2003, 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by iwantanewmac
Why do they still want to ship a mac with only a cd-rom?
Are there any other company's that ship computers with cd-rom only?

Yes, actually there are a lot of cheap PCs that have a good old cd-rom. The dell Dimension 2350 come with a 48X CD ROM Drive for $499. The Compaq Presario S3000V, S3000Z, and S3000NX also come with cd drives. The Compaq's start at $369. There's not much power in any of these systems. But for just browsing around online, and simple word processing they're fine.

physicsnerd

AhmedFaisal · Apr 15, 2003, 04:41 AM

That's what I would want. I don't want a friggin screen but I don't want a behemoth like the PowerMac either. I want the midrange Pizza Box Macs back. Something like this:

http://www.hushtechnologies.net/

If Apple doesn't finally come up with something like that I guess i have to switch to this VIA Epia Machine and run RedHat on it..... darn it......
Cheers,

Ahmed

F/reW/re · Apr 15, 2003, 06:13 AM

CD-rom and 128MB RAM, yeah baby! øhh?
Is this a joke?

DHagan4755 · Apr 15, 2003, 06:57 AM

It is curious that Apple -- according to Think Secret -- would release refreshed iBooks sans Airport Extreme, yet release a newer version of the eMac with Airport Extreme.

firestarter · Apr 15, 2003, 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by DHagan4755
It is curious that Apple -- according to Think Secret -- would release refreshed iBooks sans Airport Extreme, yet release a newer version of the eMac with Airport Extreme.

Hopefully they'll all go extreme.

In a mixed environment (lots of computers on the same wireless network) the network switches down to the speed of the slowest. So if Apple wants to push extreme for education, they really need to be releasing all products with extreme.

I think the eMac on extreme is a good sign for iBooks...

punter · Apr 15, 2003, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Macrumors
This would be the first major revision of the eMac.

When they added the superdrive wasn't that classified as a revision? I guess not a major revision, but it certainly made me think about getting one.

backspinner · Apr 15, 2003, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by punter
...but it certainly made me think about getting one.

I'm getting one. Actually, my sister bought one (700MHz) and a week later prices dropped. My father is getting one (800MHz) and now this rumor surfaces... I guess I just have to buy and lock myself out of macrumors

Abercrombieboy · Apr 15, 2003, 08:01 AM

1Ghz G4 w/Combo drive...$999

Now if that happens, I would buy it!!!!

seamuskrat · Apr 15, 2003, 08:56 AM

I can say for the educational lines, havingf JUST a cd rom is essential. With a burner, youhave a highe rrisk of p3p sharing, software theft and other activities. I know the way my university works is that all students have a network account with space to save files. The lab computers are for worek only no saved files, no disks, etc. Keeps all the machines safe, virus feee and standardized. So for that purpose it makes sense.

For consumers, it makes sense because they may have an older Mac with an exteternal burner. I know my G4 tower 500 is DVD rom with fast extenal burner. Makes the most sense since I just copy a CD rather than image first , so I would not want a burner inside. Plus the CD is a faster CD speed than a combo drivw, so rip of cds goes better.

So its not dead, just another option for schools, budget minded folks, or those with external burners looking for an upgraded mac.

Blaq · Apr 15, 2003, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AhmedFaisal
That's what I would want. I don't want a friggin screen but I don't want a behemoth like the PowerMac either. I want the midrange Pizza Box Macs back. Something like this:

http://www.hushtechnologies.net/

If Apple doesn't finally come up with something like that I guess i have to switch to this VIA Epia Machine and run RedHat on it..... darn it......
Cheers,

Ahmed

AMEN! I've been waiting for ages for a reasonably priced box. I don't want to spend nearly $1000 on an 17" imac LCD screen that I have to get rid of when I want to upgrade my computer.

This CDN$ is killing me... these Powermacs are just way out of my range, and .mac costs more than six months of low-speed broadband!

Latino · Apr 15, 2003, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AhmedFaisal
That's what I would want. I don't want a friggin screen but I don't want a behemoth like the PowerMac either. I want the midrange Pizza Box Macs back. Something like this:

http://www.hushtechnologies.net/

If Apple doesn't finally come up with something like that I guess i have to switch to this VIA Epia Machine and run RedHat on it..... darn it......
Cheers,

Ahmed

The other day I was thinking about this pizzabox idea, and I came up with something.

Apple currently doesn't have a low end desktop without monitor. I mean, a LOW end. Something cheap and cheerful. Something for someone who has a PC and wants to move to a Mac, but has no need for a new monitor. Or something for that person who is considering moving to Mac but doesn't want to spend lots of dosh on something he/she doesn't know and is not familiar with.

How about this? A pizzabox mac with a G3... ok, I know half of you are going to criticise the idea because of the G3. But think about it this way.

It would be a basic machine for email, chat, browsing, the ocassional photo editing with IPhoto, or whatever. Simmilar market as the iBook but on a desktop.

Give it one of those G3s at 800Mhz and/or 1Ghz, bump the bus to 133Mhz, give it a CD-ROM with optional CDRW, one AGP, one PCI, optional modem, network , firewire, usb, and a radeon 7500 for example.

This would create a very cheap mac which also would be very capable for basic users. The G3 would limit this machine to non-pro people. For those, there's the G4 powermac.

What do you guys think? Think a G3 on this machine would be a good move? or should it use low speed G4s?

I know I would buy one in the blink of an eye for the right price. I also know my brother would buy one too. And at the end of the day, the more Mac users the better, right?

Also, here is a question for you lot. Why do you think Apple hasn't made this pizzabox idea a reality yet? what reason(s) do you think they have?

Apr 15, 2003, 02:23 AM	#5
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Apr 15, 2003, 02:39 AM	#8
scem0 macrumors 601 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: back in NYC!	I assume these will be priced the same as the current eMacs? __________________ GradientCreator.com - Gradiented Text on Forums

Apr 15, 2003, 04:41 AM	#16
AhmedFaisal macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Somewhere in Germany	Bah... eMac, where is the Pizzabox Barebone???? That's what I would want. I don't want a friggin screen but I don't want a behemoth like the PowerMac either. I want the midrange Pizza Box Macs back. Something like this: http://www.hushtechnologies.net/ If Apple doesn't finally come up with something like that I guess i have to switch to this VIA Epia Machine and run RedHat on it..... darn it...... Cheers, Ahmed

Apr 15, 2003, 08:01 AM	#22
Abercrombieboy macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South Dakota, USA	1Ghz G4 w/Combo drive...$999 Now if that happens, I would buy it!!!! __________________ Mac: 20" Aluminum iMac Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz, Mac OSX 10.6.1 iPod Touch 32 GB iPod Classic 80GB Silver Motorola Droid A855

Apr 15, 2003, 08:56 AM	#23
seamuskrat macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Jersey USA	CD ROM I can say for the educational lines, havingf JUST a cd rom is essential. With a burner, youhave a highe rrisk of p3p sharing, software theft and other activities. I know the way my university works is that all students have a network account with space to save files. The lab computers are for worek only no saved files, no disks, etc. Keeps all the machines safe, virus feee and standardized. So for that purpose it makes sense. For consumers, it makes sense because they may have an older Mac with an exteternal burner. I know my G4 tower 500 is DVD rom with fast extenal burner. Makes the most sense since I just copy a CD rather than image first , so I would not want a burner inside. Plus the CD is a faster CD speed than a combo drivw, so rip of cds goes better. So its not dead, just another option for schools, budget minded folks, or those with external burners looking for an upgraded mac. __________________ Remember to VOTE. Its a right and privilege. USE IT. ROCK the VOTE http://www.declareyourself.com

Apr 15, 2003, 02:18 AM	#2
artificiallife Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003	Revisions are always nice

Apr 15, 2003, 02:19 AM	#3
kansaigaijin macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: the great ether	will it boot OS9?

Apr 15, 2003, 02:22 AM	#4
VegetaPunk macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ	They probably will boot into OS 9 Im sure when they stop they will do it will a big anouncment Like the 970 wishes that he could use 970 right now

Apr 15, 2003, 02:33 AM	#7
kansaigaijin macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: the great ether	and the thinksecret story also says they will not, except educational customers, implying they still want to use 9.

Apr 15, 2003, 03:05 AM	#10
t^3 macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Corvallis, OR	How can all the new eMacs have Airport Extreme, but the low end iMac still has regular 'ol Airport?

Apr 15, 2003, 03:49 AM	#12
iwantanewmac macrumors 6502 Join Date: Oct 2001	Why do they still want to ship a mac with only a cd-rom? Are there any other company's that ship computers with cd-rom only?

Apr 15, 2003, 04:05 AM	#13
kansaigaijin macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: the great ether	extreme question? cause it takes a new motherboard to get it. the new ones will go extreme. cd-rom? cause its cheap. maybe you don't want users burning discs either for some reason really save money, leave out entirely and netboot.

Apr 15, 2003, 04:32 AM	#14
Datazoid macrumors regular Join Date: May 2002	This is really gonna make iMacs seem like rip-offs, you know. Between the low end tower ($1499) and these eMacs ($999?-$1299?), what is the point of the iMac? The low end iMac, from the sounds of it, will have performance WORSE than a computer $200 less than it, and lets see, a 1Ghz iMac for $1799 vs a 1Ghz eMac for $999 ($299 for superdrive). Moreover, how is AP Extreme going to be on the low-end eMac but not the low-end iMac? Yeah, LCDs are cool, but, its pretty hard to swallow that much cost difference ($5-700) just for a 17" LCD screen (or the 15" for that matter). iMacs are positioned at a mid-range (for Apple) price level, and I believe the PERFORMANCE should match, not just the monitor. I need coffee...

Apr 15, 2003, 06:13 AM	#17
F/reW/re macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Norway	CD-rom and 128MB RAM, yeah baby! øhh? Is this a joke?

Apr 15, 2003, 06:57 AM	#18
DHagan4755 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Massachusetts	It is curious that Apple -- according to Think Secret -- would release refreshed iBooks sans Airport Extreme, yet release a newer version of the eMac with Airport Extreme.

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