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Old Oct 30, 2006, 02:17 PM   #1
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Leopard At Macworld San Francisco? Intel and iTV (Viiv)?



According to MacNewsWorld columnist Rob Enderle, Apple may be preparing to launch Leopard at MacWorld San Francisco. Steve Jobs had previously announced at this year's WWDC that Leopard would ship in Spring 2007, however Enderle believes the release will be pushed up to take as much spark away from Microsoft's release of Vista as possible.

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It looks like this puppy is nearly ready if I'm reading the signs right -- and Apple is clearly setting up for something big.
Also mentioned is Intel's involvement with the iTV.

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(Ed. Note: Presumably regarding the iTV) Now Intel's part goes beyond the chip and appears to contain elements of Viiv, if not all of that platform. Viiv is actually kind of cool, it's just that Intel has not been able to explain effectively what it is and, as a result, the market hasn't been particularly excited about it on Windows. However, Apple knows how to sell and with a problem where the technology is good but the marketing's not, Apple has the skills to make a huge contribution.
Rumors of Apple using Intel's Viiv media platform have been circulating since late last year, culminating with rumors regarding supposed Apple Viiv 40 and 50" displays. Apple has yet to release any Viiv-branded product, although a $1 million contest announced at Intel's recent developer forum for the best Viiv design has regained some interest in the rumor.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 02:19 PM   #2
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This guy is an unknown, hence page2. Also, to me it seems as though there is still a bit of work to go on Leopard (despite it coming along nicely), so I'm not putting a ton of faith in this one.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 02:24 PM   #3
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If this is true. There could be a lot of one more thing....'s
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If this is true. There could be a lot of one more thing....'s

"Oh and there are four more things... Boom!"
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 02:24 PM   #5
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 02:25 PM   #6
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I expect a demo of Leopard at Macworld, but not a launch. iLife and iWork '07, iTV (or whatever it's eventually called) and possibly the Apple phone ('one more thing') will be enough to launch in January!
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 02:28 PM   #7
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Enderle used to be a Windows fanboy...what has changed?
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 02:45 PM   #8
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Leopard still has a ways to go... I doubt it will show up in January. Apple has little real reason to rush it out the door.

They will show it off in January but they wont ship it that early.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 02:46 PM   #9
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Leopard still has a ways to go... I doubt it will show up in January.
How do you know? We've heard very little about Leopard since it was previewed.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 02:50 PM   #10
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Enderle used to be a Windows fanboy...what has changed?
There's only so much bull shite you can spout before some sense seeps through. However it has to be said with him it is likely to be but a fleeting moment of sanity before normal service (service being the operative word) is resumed.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 03:12 PM   #11
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Enderle used to be a Windows fanboy...what has changed?
I think most Windows fanboys like Enderle, Thurrott et. al actually are Apple admirers. However, they show it public to different degrees.
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This guy is an unknown, hence page2.
WHAT?!!!

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Enderle used to be a Windows fanboy...what has changed?
EXACTLY!

Enderle is a bonehead. He is one of the "Holy Trinity" of Apple bashing, winBlows [wannabe] pundits.

Dvorak and Thurrott round out that threesome of morons.

I remember Enderle's article from almost 3 years ago where he talked about how Apple couldn't make a computer as stylish as his red Acer Ferrari laptop and that it was sooo cool because it made a Ferrari engine noise when it booted up.



For a good laugh, and to expose Enderle for the KNOWN joke that he is in the Mac community, I'll link to an article referencing those statements from AtAT [As the Apple Turns] and includes classic quotes like these:

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(regarding his red Ferrari Acer notebook referenced in the AtAT article linked below)


(It's) "the only notebook in the world to sport the patented Ferrari-Red colour." . . . (It has a) "classy strip of grey bordering the keyboard."..."When I walk into a room with this baby, even the Apple users join the throngs of admirers." . . . "One impressive piece of execution is that when you fire the machine up it plays a WAV file of a Ferrari race car revving its engine. That alone is worth the relatively low $1,899 price of admission."

In the linked post from February of '04, AtAT describes Rob Enderle as a "a very visible Apple-hostile analyst".

This guy is an unknown? I think not.

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Old Oct 30, 2006, 03:12 PM   #13
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I expect a demo of Leopard at Macworld, but not a launch. iLife and iWork '07, iTV (or whatever it's eventually called) and possibly the Apple phone ('one more thing') will be enough to launch in January!
I think the 'one more thing' will be the next gen iPod since I can't see it coming out before Christmas now.

Also about Leopard, I am pretty sure I read somewhere that Apple said it will not be launching it at MWSF.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 05:51 PM   #14
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I expect a demo of Leopard at Macworld, but not a launch. iLife and iWork '07, iTV (or whatever it's eventually called) and possibly the Apple phone ('one more thing') will be enough to launch in January!
I think so too.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 03:41 PM   #15
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This guy is an unknown, hence page2. Also, to me it seems as though there is still a bit of work to go on Leopard (despite it coming along nicely), so I'm not putting a ton of faith in this one.
He's not unknown at all, in fact he's quite well known. Unfortunately he's well known for spouting utter crap, so this should be taken with a pinch of salt. I.e. definitely Page 2 material!

Just to illustrate my point:

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/se...c0203059919da/
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 03:53 PM   #16
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Rob Enderle?

Good grief.

Anything from him belongs on Page 8.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 04:11 PM   #17
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...with a problem where the technology is good but the marketing's not, Apple has the skills to make a huge contribution
This shows how far Apple has come since the Dark Days(tm) - remember the early 90s-Apple? It had all that cool technology, but lousy marketing...

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Old Oct 30, 2006, 06:03 PM   #18
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Oh No. Now I Have To Wait For MacWorld B4 Buying My 8-Core Mac Pro?

This is big if true. Would have to wait for MWSF January 9-12 to buy any Mac.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 04:08 PM   #19
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There is very little reason for Apple to release the next OS/X so soon.

Everyone is expecting OSX around Spring. Apple should give plenty of time for debugging and general readiness.

Tiger was a disaster at release - way too many bugs. Don't let this happen to Leopard.
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I would be so happy if "Leopard" was released at next year's Macworld. That would be so awesome of them and it would definitely kill some of Vista's launch hype.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 06:55 PM   #21
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I would be so happy if "Leopard" was released at next year's Macworld. That would be so awesome of them and it would definitely kill some of Vista's launch hype.
Which is exactly why I think they'll release it in January.
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I would be so happy if "Leopard" was released at next year's Macworld. That would be so awesome of them and it would definitely kill some of Vista's launch hype.

Doubtful. MS is spending aprox 900 million on marketing. You thought you were sick of campaign ads. You ain't seen nothing yet. You won't be be able to hock a loogie without hitting a Vista ad. Or if you do you will run out of spit well before you run out of ads.
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Old Nov 2, 2006, 05:23 AM   #24
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Anybody who thinks Leopard is getting release in January has a head full of rocks.

I'll bet ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY, that Leopard will not be released before, or anytime DURING the month of January.

If it were being released in January that would mean that the builds Apple is releasing to us right now would actually run things, and not look EXACTLY like tiger, with a mix of 10.1, and hard freeze entire suites of test machines.

LOL. Leopard is months, and months off from release. March is going to be a HARD date to make, and at this rate if they pull it off in March, with the feature set they are showing off people are going to be yawning. And this is coming from a select developer who attended probably 60 sessions on leopard.

Boring stuff so far.
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Anybody who thinks Leopard is getting release in January has a head full of rocks.
ok, my head is full of rocks

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I'll bet ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY, that Leopard will not be released before, or anytime DURING the month of January.
I'll bet you an apple it is (i.e. the actual fruit)

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If it were being released in January that would mean that the builds Apple is releasing to us right now would actually run things, and not look EXACTLY like tiger, with a mix of 10.1, and hard freeze entire suites of test machines.
But we can all still dream, can't we? Besides, if Leopard isn't going to be released at MWSF, what then is going to be the BIG announcement that usually occurs at that time of year? 8 core Mac Pro?

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LOL. Leopard is months, and months off from release. March is going to be a HARD date to make, and at this rate if they pull it off in March, with the feature set they are showing off people are going to be yawning. And this is coming from a select developer who attended probably 60 sessions on leopard.

Boring stuff so far.
I can't wait until next summer....!!!
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