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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:23 AM   #1
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AMD Based Apple Laptop?

I'd consider it highly unlikley but here's the rumour (it's be wise for Apple to have rumours circulated just to keep Intel sharp):

http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20061115PR207.html
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:28 AM   #2
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DigiTimes' track record is amazingly bad. You'd think they'd be right more often just by guessing.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 06:30 PM   #3
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DigiTimes' track record is amazingly bad. You'd think they'd be right more often just by guessing.
I thought that is what they were doing...
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:00 PM   #4
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DigiTimes' track record is amazingly bad. You'd think they'd be right more often just by guessing.
Frag that, I think they do just guess at random.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:48 AM   #5
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...The claim - cited by DigiTimes...
Just to put everybody's mind at ease. These are the guys who predicted the arrival of a G5 iBook in early 2005.

They have never, ever been right.
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I go on how good their logo is...

...they must be way off.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:00 AM   #7
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I go on how good their logo is...

...they must be way off.
Yeah, it looks like the logo of one of those local computer stores that are packed to rafters with boxes in a tiny shop with opaque-coated windows and put out pricing brochures on coloured paper folded neatly in half down the centre.

You know the ones of which I speak.
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Yeah, it looks like the logo of one of those local computer stores that are packed to rafters with boxes in a tiny shop with opaque-coated windows and put out pricing brochures on coloured paper folded neatly in half down the centre.

You know the ones of which I speak.
hahahaha. I'd built up a full mental image before I even clicked the digitimes link. Great post.
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I threw up in my mouth a little bit™ for a month with the Intel switch.

I may have to hospitalized if this actually happens.
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I threw up in my mouth a little bit™ for a month with the Intel switch.

I may have to hospitalized if this actually happens.
You should understand the technology a bit more before making assumptions about "evil x86 processors" ( thats Intel and AMD ). The intel processors ( now ) are way better than IBM could produce.

There absolutely nothing wrong with AMD. In recent times they have fallen back a bit ( didn't produce better processors than the AMD64 ) - but thats the way its always been - AMD get ahead of Intel , and vice-versa.

For a long time AMD desktop processsors were cheaper and better than Intels. This has changed since the latest Intel processors. AMD mobile processors have always been second best.

Two years ago, I would have taken an AMD desktop over Intel.

( Yes, I realise this is about mobile processors )
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I threw up in my mouth a little bit™...
You can't TM that... I remember Jack saying that on Will&Grace like 3 seasons ago.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 01:35 PM   #12
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Here we go folks.



Just to put everybody's mind at ease. These are the guys who predicted the arrival of a G5 iBook in early 2005.

They have never, ever been right.
Not only are they always wrong, their rumors don't even make sense. AMD doesn't have a competitive notebook CPU and can't deliver in the scale Apple needs. These guys can't even fabricate a decent lie.
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Old Nov 17, 2006, 12:22 PM   #13
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AMD doesn't have a competitive notebook CPU and can't deliver in the scale Apple needs.
yes they could. We are not talking about zillion CPU's here. AMD could satisfy Apple's demands just fine.
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Old Nov 17, 2006, 02:50 PM   #14
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yes they could. We are not talking about zillion CPU's here. AMD could satisfy Apple's demands just fine.
The only evidence I've seen for AMD's ability to produce chips is that currently they are struggling to meet the market's needs after the deal with Dell. I think it is a fair assumption that AMD's ability to supply Apple was taken into account when the Intel decision was being looked at.

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Old Nov 20, 2006, 03:15 AM   #15
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Just to put everybody's mind at ease. These are the guys who predicted the arrival of a G5 iBook in early 2005.

They have never, ever been right.
ditto, why would apple switch to another chip when they are with the most reliable and solid choice at the moment
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:44 AM   #16
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Apple + AMD?

The Register reports that Apple may be developing an AMD based solution, although details are very sketchy at this moment in time.

As they say, Core 2 Duo still has the lead, but there is the fact that AMD just bought ATI... Apple may prefer to get more bits from one supplier...

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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:46 AM   #17
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If Taiwan's high-capacitance multi-layer ceramic capacitor (MLCC) manufacturing community says so, it must be true. What's stopping Apple from using AMD processors? (apart from preferential pricing from Intel)
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:06 AM   #18
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I will never buy an AMD computer again, especially in a laptop. AMDs are very hot processors and they require big fans(I learn that from my bro's Compaq), which make them thick and heavy.

It would be best for me if we could of kept PowerPC, developed a lower powerconsuming but stil powerful G5, or Xenon(chip in XBOX 360). But intel is still got...PPC for LIFE
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:25 AM   #19
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I'm sure that somewhere in their headquarters Apple keeps a build of OS X on AMD like they did with Intel. But Idon't think that anyone outside of Apple will see it at least for several years.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 11:12 AM   #20
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I doubt Apple will go with AMD in the near future - at the moment Intel has the performance lead and the AMD/Intel war is so hot Intel would no doubt punish Apple for adding AMD CPUs to their product line.

I'm not holding my breath...but I am interested to see what AMD comes out with in answer to the Core 2 Duo. Maybe if AMD regains its competitiveness there will be pressure for Apple to branch out a little.
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I'm sure that somewhere in their headquarters Apple keeps a build of OS X on AMD like they did with Intel. But Idon't think that anyone outside of Apple will see it at least for several years.
Would it even require a different build? After all, it's still x86 architecture no?
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Old Nov 17, 2006, 01:32 PM   #22
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I'm sure that somewhere in their headquarters Apple keeps a build of OS X on AMD like they did with Intel. But Idon't think that anyone outside of Apple will see it at least for several years.
Apple did not have a version of OS X running in it's labs. Intel has had every version running on their chips since the early 1990s when they first entered into discussions about using Intel chips. Intel some of the best software programmers in the world, wrt making an OS work on Intel chips. Apple got the OS X port from Intel to speed up the process of introducing the chips.
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Old Nov 18, 2006, 12:48 AM   #23
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I'm sure that somewhere in their headquarters Apple keeps a build of OS X on AMD like they did with Intel. But Idon't think that anyone outside of Apple will see it at least for several years.
Intel and AMD are binary compatible with exception of AMD's SIMD instructions. Ever wonder why there isn't a different copy of Windows for AMD and Intel?

Let's not forget that IA32e (64bit mode on Intel) is better known as AMD64 and is used by Intel on license.

Anyone with an Intel mac is running software that would run on an Intel chip.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 05:14 PM   #24
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I will never buy an AMD computer again, especially in a laptop. AMDs are very hot processors and they require big fans(I learn that from my bro's Compaq), which make them thick and heavy.

It would be best for me if we could of kept PowerPC, developed a lower powerconsuming but stil powerful G5, or Xenon(chip in XBOX 360). But intel is still got...PPC for LIFE
My presario v2000 has amd2.0ghz turion64. It is the same thickness as my wife's g4 ibook. It isn't near as hot as powerbooks.
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My presario v2000 has amd2.0ghz turion64. It is the same thickness as my wife's g4 ibook. It isn't near as hot as powerbooks.
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I have the exact same laptop as yours (well, I did. It's leaving my ownership tonight!), and my first through when I got the new MBP C2D is that the MBP runs cooler than it.

But, I will give you this; my Compaq runs hot, but not always. It's pretty rare when it gets extremely hot, but it is almost always warm. The new MBP, on the other hand, seems like that while it can get hot, it runs cooler overall than my old Compaq.
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