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Old Apr 29, 2003, 08:39 PM   #1
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iTunes for Windows is Coming

Apple has already reported that they would be introducing their Music Download service for Windows later this year... and Forbes has already suggested that iTunes is coming to Windows.

As confirmation, Apple has posted a job listing on Monster.com for a Senior Software Engineer for iTunes for Windows:

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Apple Computer is looking for a Senior Software Engineer to design and build one of our newest Consumer Applications, iTunes for Windows.
Must be possess strong skills in the areas of application design, solid API design principles, user interface engineering, and have a strong understanding of customer and workflow issues. Experience with Windows logo certification preferred. Candidate should have a history of successful large volume consumer product shipment.
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haha, I thought they were already MAKING it not hiring...

Like they did for AppleWorks for windows... hm... seems fishy...
edit: I come here too much...
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 08:48 PM   #3
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Help Wanted?!!

Is it just me, or is it really weird to see a job listing for such a seriously important role at Apple? You'd think Steve had a handful of the most talented in mind. At the same time it's pretty cool to see that it's not closed, that they're looking to see what's out there, see what's fresh and innovative. That's what keeps Apple the great company that it is! They always seek to innovate. And make money, of course, but that's the nature of the beast!
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 08:49 PM   #4
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 08:50 PM   #5
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Mmmmmm....

Ok, I think is good that Apple is sharing a little something with the PC side. May be it will end up like some kind of invation to the other side once Apple start translating FCP and the rest of the iAps to Windows.

Now, if in 2 or 3 years from now we are gonna find the same applications for Windows... (and mayyyyyyyyyybe OSX too)....

Why are we still buying a computer that is twice as expensive?

If I can find the same things working as well on booth sides, why should I get a platform that is more expensive?

Of course this is all theory but we are moving foward that way having iTunes for PC.

At list I hope that the ammount of money collected by Apple will compensate the price of the hardware some day.
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 08:54 PM   #6
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I agree about the cost of the computer. Apple's need to go down in price, but I doubt that they will. If you bought a comparable quality pc it wouldn't be so much more expensive, though. Well, between 500 and a grand, which is several iPods!
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 08:55 PM   #7
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i think this will be good, its just an mp3 player, so should get all consumer music stuff to the windows people too. apple has become that standard with media with windows and macs with quicktime. they are the standard with windows and macs wth the ipods. now its time for itunes to bust in there and become the standard. i see apple right now being in the music world as windows is in the computer world.... THE STANDARD.

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I think whatever revenue they lose in people not buying a mac to use itunes, they will make up for by having that many more windows users surfing their online music store.
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 09:03 PM   #9
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Re: Help Wanted?!!

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Is it just me, or is it really weird to see a job listing for such a seriously important role at Apple?
It's not you, it is really weird.
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 09:03 PM   #10
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I've needed iTunes for a long time on this here PC.

One of the things I miss the most about my mac...

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hoax?

I was under the impression that the way you got employed at apple was to be invited by someone already working there(?). Anyone know for sure?
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 09:10 PM   #12
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apple has become that standard with media with windows and macs with quicktime.
That's not true, iJon. A lot of people in the animation design world have been steadily shifting to the PC realm, even in the lower end markets. I fight weekly about the benefits of sticking with Apple on the AfterEffects forum. There are still a lot of Mac users, but a great many working on PCs. They actually often prefer Windows Media Player to Quicktime, saying it gets better results. I think you're pretty much right about Quicktime being the present standard, but my point is that things have been and continue to change rapidly away from the Apple standards. It's a little scary.
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Re: hoax?

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I was under the impression that they way you got employed at apple was to be invited by someone already working there(?). Anyone know for sure?
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heh... makes it sound like a cult or a country club.

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Old Apr 29, 2003, 09:21 PM   #14
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That's not true, iJon. A lot of people in the animation design world have been steadily shifting to the PC realm, even in the lower end markets. I fight weekly about the benefits of sticking with Apple on the AfterEffects forum. There are still a lot of Mac users, but a great many working on PCs. They actually often prefer Windows Media Player to Quicktime, saying it gets better results. I think you're pretty much right about Quicktime being the present standard, but my point is that things have been and continue to change rapidly away from the Apple standards. It's a little scary.
yeah i know lots of people use it, but is it better, i mean i see divx and stuff like that but nothign seems to beat quicktime paired with an mpeg4 or mov file. most windows media files i see are bad, but thats probably more the video than the codec.

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heh... makes it sound like a cult or a country club.

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Or a secret cabal bent on contolling the world through their puppet leaders and media!

lo....
....hold that thought

What is Al Gore doing at Apple exactly?

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Re: Re: Re: hoax?

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Or a secret cabal bent on contolling the world through their puppet leaders and media!

lo....
....hold that thought

What is Al Gore doing at Apple exactly?

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he has gov't ties and only Job's Friends get on the board apparently...

It's not supposto be that way but the next 'friend' that steve gets on the board, I'm going to vote against it.

I'll make my apple shares worth something!
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 09:40 PM   #17
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Re: hoax?

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I was under the impression that the way you got employed at apple was to be invited by someone already working there(?). Anyone know for sure?
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But who working for Apple would admit to knowing someone who was a top notch winblows programmer?
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But who working for Apple would admit to knowing someone who was a top notch winblows programmer?
This indeed is the problem. Imagine the poor guy who pipes up and says "hang on, my BEST friend would be perfect for the job". There's a basement workstation beside the trash compactor that's got that guy's name on it...
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 09:52 PM   #19
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It's not a hoax.

The listing is also posted on Apple's site.
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 09:58 PM   #20
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he has gov't ties and only Job's Friends get on the board apparently...

It's not supposto be that way but the next 'friend' that steve gets on the board, I'm going to vote against it.

I'll make my apple shares worth something!
i dont think normal stock holder really have say who gets on the bod, but i could be wrong.

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I agree about the cost of the computer. Apple's need to go down in price, but I doubt that they will. If you bought a comparable quality pc it wouldn't be so much more expensive, though. !
I think that's the key. iTunes might "not work so well" on some $500 stripper machine.

And, maybe they'll charge for itunes. 29.95, with credit for 25 songs at the apple store.
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I think that's the key. iTunes might "not work so well" on some $500 stripper machine.

And, maybe they'll charge for itunes. 29.95, with credit for 25 songs at the apple store.
I'd buy iTunes 4 for my Mac if it came with 25 free downloads! $24.75 is the worth of 25 songs currently and $5.00 for iTunes is not too much to ask.
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Apple is treading on thin ice. If they are successful they can open up a whole new market but they must be a little worried that the instability of Windows may bite them. I really hope they get someone real good.
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 10:35 PM   #24
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I could get this job.

However, I don't ever want to work that hard again.

Life of a software developer*:
1) Work butt off in college to make contacts, internships/jobs, real world skills.
2) Get job at big firm/company and work butt off for peanuts, make tons of contacts.
3) Take contract job where you work your butt off but get paid exponentially more than big firm/company job, make more contacts.
4) Start own company with contacts (those with cash). Work butt off like never have before (you only thought you were working your butt off).
5) As business becomes successfull continue to work butt off but at a slower pace (if fail go back to #3).
6) Sell company and enjoy life (if you still know how, investment bankers can never do this).
7) Come to realization happiness is your attitude/choice and has nothing to do with power, success or financial resources.
8) Share the wealth.


* This only applies to democrats, for the republican version see below.

1) Get rich any way possible (ethics be damned).
2) Lie to self that money, power, success actually is happiness
3) Goto #1
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jamilecrire its 3.30am here in the UK and you just gave me a good laugh, thanks man
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