Aqua To See Leopard Refresh?

Diatribe · 08:16 AM

If the rumor is correct then Apple will replace Aqua with Illuminous and hopefully unite the visual styles again in Leopard.

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Apple Gazette has received a tip from an apple insider that the Mac OS Aqua User Interface will be replaced with a new UI named Illuminous.

The source goes on to say that we will see a demonstration of Illuminous at Macworld 2007.

The gensis for this rumor started earlier this year when Apple posted a position on Monster.com seeking a senior visual interface designer “to conceive, design and develop future enhancements to Aqua, the dynamic user interface for Mac OS X”.

This is the first time a name for the supposed Aqua replacement has been given.

What will Illuminous look like?

That’s anybody’s guess at this point, but we might be seeing some hints of what Illuminous holds in the recent release of iTunes.

We will keep you posted as more information becomes available.

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The first signs of this may even be included in the latest build:

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Apple yesterday seeded a new version of Leopard (build 9A326) to internal Apple employees. This latest build is reported to have fixed bugs from the last build (9A303) such as Quicktime crashing, printing problems and issues with .Mac such as iDisk synching. Apple continues to gloss over the interface, refining it even more and there is an overly presence of black gloss.

MrSmith · Dec 11, 2006, 08:11 AM

Black Gloss sounds very stylish, but any black theme I've tried on ShapeShifter is unreadable in some respect. Not that Apple's theme would have that problem, of course, but other than buttons and scroll bars I can't imagine black being practical. But maybe they are the only things that will be black and everything else will remain silver/grayish.

clevin · Dec 11, 2006, 08:50 AM

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but we might be seeing some hints of what Illuminous holds in the recent release of iTunes.

oh my.

amnesiak · Dec 11, 2006, 09:06 AM

i dono..if it does have all the black gloss..then vista has it in their taskbar and that doesnt look too good..

Scarlet Fever · Dec 11, 2006, 09:17 AM

at the risk of inadvertently downloading a trojan, I wanna see some pics!

neven · Dec 11, 2006, 09:58 AM

Hm. Of course, this is exciting news and I have faith in Apple's UI design team, but the "shiny black" look we've seen some small examples of (e.g. Leopard's Time Machine/Spotlight previews, Time Machine itself) didn't impress me. Too -- dare I say it -- Vista-y.

I, for one, was glad to see the UI go a little flatter, a little more subtle, a little less obviously glossy and highlight-y with the "unified" look. I like the "deep" 3D effects in some apps, but I'd like the basic OS X interface to stay easy on the eyes.

Markleshark · Dec 11, 2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by amnesiak

i dono..if it does have all the black gloss..then vista has it in their taskbar and that doesnt look too good..

I thought that as well... hmmm... lets hope not.

However, I likes me some of iTunes 7, so lets go with that.

benthewraith · Dec 11, 2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by clevin

oh my.

No more jelly beans!

Sdashiki · Dec 11, 2006, 10:24 AM

id rather that OSX had Shapeshifter like editing capabilities built in.

Even crappy windows 3.1 had that, though there wasnt a single use for it besides adding to the horror.

Id like to be able to create my own stuff and edit the look of OSX, with the "consent" from Apple in that its not a 3rd party add on.

Frisco · Dec 11, 2006, 10:27 AM

I like this rumor! Can we get it moved to the Front page. Beats iPhone rumors anyday!

MrSmith · Dec 11, 2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdashiki

id rather that OSX had Shapeshifter like editing capabilities built in.

Even crappy windows 3.1 had that, though there wasnt a single use for it besides adding to the horror.

I just had a flashback to the 'hotdog' theme

Swarmlord · Dec 11, 2006, 10:41 AM

Figures. I was just getting used to Aqua and they decide to change it.

aLoC · Dec 11, 2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by benthewraith

No more jelly beans!

I don't like the Aqua sliders, but the iTunes 7 one is no better.

In both cases too prominent. It's just a scroller, a background thing, and yet dominates the gui.

shecky · Dec 11, 2006, 10:45 AM

i just want it all to look like Final Cut Pro and i would be pleased as punch.

MrSmith · Dec 11, 2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aLoC

I don't like the Aqua sliders, but the iTunes 7 one is no better.

In both cases too prominent. It's just a scroller, a background thing, and yet dominates the gui.

A mm or two wider would also be nice.

Rojo · Dec 11, 2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by shecky

i just want it all to look like Final Cut Pro and i would be pleased as punch.

Yeah, that'd be sweet.
I'm a little worried about the black gloss thing. I noticed it right away in the Time Machine previews. I'd hate to see this as a uniform element throughout everything.
Ah well -- it'll still look better than Vista.

twoodcc · Dec 11, 2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarlet Fever

at the risk of inadvertently downloading a trojan, I wanna see some pics!

i wanna see some pics also!

Diatribe · Dec 11, 2006, 11:11 AM

Look at the Leopard preview, everthing is pretty dark. Look at the bars at the bottom, Time Machine or the general background for the icons of the previews.

Black all over the place. I sure hope it doesn't become too dark and I'd like to say I have faith in Apple but after the recent mess I am not too sure.

MacVault · Dec 11, 2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by aLoC

I don't like the Aqua sliders, but the iTunes 7 one is no better.

In both cases too prominent. It's just a scroller, a background thing, and yet dominates the gui.

Yes! You read my mind!

MacVault · Dec 11, 2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

A mm or two wider would also be nice.

I agreeeeee!

fugeelama · Dec 11, 2006, 11:16 AM

Aniej · Dec 11, 2006, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Diatribe

If the rumor is correct then Apple will replace Aqua with Illuminous and hopefully unite the visual styles again in Leopard.

Link

The first signs of this may even be included in the latest build:

Maybe I missed it when I went to these two links, but are there screenshots posted of this somewhere? I am not sure why I missed it, but it might have something to do with 4 hours of sleep each night for a week.

clevin · Dec 11, 2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Diatribe

Look at the Leopard preview, everthing is pretty dark. Look at the bars at the bottom, Time Machine or the general background for the icons of the previews.

Black all over the place. I sure hope it doesn't become too dark and I'd like to say I have faith in Apple but after the recent mess I am not too sure.

good point, make me wonder if apple trying to cove up their cheap LCD's uneven brightness problem..

Am3822 · Dec 11, 2006, 11:46 AM

Well, let me echo the previous posters and hope that it won't look like the vista shiny black (I know it's not covered with gold or anything, but the word that comes to me is 'bling').

Diatribe · Dec 11, 2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aniej

Maybe I missed it when I went to these two links, but are there screenshots posted of this somewhere? I am not sure why I missed it, but it might have something to do with 4 hours of sleep each night for a week.

No, no pics but as I said look at the Leopard preview page or iTunes. This might give us ideas. I agree though pics would be nice but as of yet there are none of the new 10.5 build.

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Originally Posted by clevin

good point, make me wonder if apple trying to cove up their cheap LCD's uneven brightness problem..

Hehe, that'd be one way.

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Originally Posted by Am3822

Well, let me echo the previous posters and hope that it won't look like the vista shiny black (I know it's not covered with gold or anything, but the word that comes to me is 'bling').

The first thought that came to my mind when I saw the Vista toolbar was 'cheap'. It looks like cheap plastic. I'm not a real fan of iTunes' colors either but I have faith in Apple, or Steve for that matter, that in a new OS revision they actually get their act together and provide a gorgeous UI.

Dec 11, 2006, 08:11 AM	#2
MrSmith macrumors 68020 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Too far from London	Black Gloss sounds very stylish, but any black theme I've tried on ShapeShifter is unreadable in some respect. Not that Apple's theme would have that problem, of course, but other than buttons and scroll bars I can't imagine black being practical. But maybe they are the only things that will be black and everything else will remain silver/grayish. __________________ They are not long, the days of wine and roses: Out of a misty dream Our path emerges for awhile, then closes within a dream. Ernest Dowson

Dec 11, 2006, 09:06 AM	#4
amnesiak macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2006	black like vista taskbar i dono..if it does have all the black gloss..then vista has it in their taskbar and that doesnt look too good..

Dec 11, 2006, 09:17 AM	#5
Scarlet Fever macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bookshop!	at the risk of inadvertently downloading a trojan, I wanna see some pics! __________________ i have stuff. you have stuff. we are all consumers.

Dec 11, 2006, 10:24 AM	#9
Sdashiki macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 9th Circle most of the time	id rather that OSX had Shapeshifter like editing capabilities built in. Even crappy windows 3.1 had that, though there wasnt a single use for it besides adding to the horror. Id like to be able to create my own stuff and edit the look of OSX, with the "consent" from Apple in that its not a 3rd party add on. __________________ The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do. - B. F. Skinner Like Polaroids?

Dec 11, 2006, 10:27 AM	#10
Frisco macrumors 68000 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Nutley, NJ	I like this rumor! Can we get it moved to the Front page. Beats iPhone rumors anyday! __________________ Frisco

Dec 11, 2006, 09:58 AM	#6
neven macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Portland, OR	Hm. Of course, this is exciting news and I have faith in Apple's UI design team, but the "shiny black" look we've seen some small examples of (e.g. Leopard's Time Machine/Spotlight previews, Time Machine itself) didn't impress me. Too -- dare I say it -- Vista-y. I, for one, was glad to see the UI go a little flatter, a little more subtle, a little less obviously glossy and highlight-y with the "unified" look. I like the "deep" 3D effects in some apps, but I'd like the basic OS X interface to stay easy on the eyes.

Dec 11, 2006, 10:41 AM	#12
Swarmlord Banned Join Date: Sep 2006	Figures. I was just getting used to Aqua and they decide to change it.

Dec 11, 2006, 10:45 AM	#14
shecky Guest Join Date: May 2003 Location: Obviously you're not a golfer.	i just want it all to look like Final Cut Pro and i would be pleased as punch.

Dec 11, 2006, 11:11 AM	#18
Diatribe Thread Starter macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Costa Rica (yes, I moved)	Look at the Leopard preview, everthing is pretty dark. Look at the bars at the bottom, Time Machine or the general background for the icons of the previews. Black all over the place. I sure hope it doesn't become too dark and I'd like to say I have faith in Apple but after the recent mess I am not too sure. __________________ Knowledge - fueled by curiosity Mac Beginner's Guide \| My Adium Xtras

Dec 11, 2006, 11:16 AM	#21
fugeelama macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Diego	__________________ fugeelama.com

Dec 11, 2006, 11:46 AM	#24
Am3822 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands	Well, let me echo the previous posters and hope that it won't look like the vista shiny black (I know it's not covered with gold or anything, but the word that comes to me is 'bling').

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