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Old Dec 14, 2006, 05:19 PM   #1
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Adobe Announces Photoshop CS3 Beta



True to rumors, Adobe has announced a Photoshop CS3 Beta program available to customers with a serial number from either Adobe Photoshop CS2, Adobe Creative Suite® 2, Adobe Creative Suite Production Studio, Adobe Design Bundle, Adobe Web Bundle or Adobe Video Bundle.

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Packed with new features, Photoshop CS3 beta also includes a pre-release version of a major upgrade to Adobe Bridge, as well as a preview release of the all-new Adobe Device Central. Photoshop customers can use Adobe Device Central to design, preview, and test compelling mobile content, created specifically for smaller screens. This new tool, integrated in the Photoshop CS3 beta, simplifies and accelerates the creation of mobile content through a preview environment and built-in device profiles.

"This is an exciting time for the Mac, and Adobe wanted to ease the move to new Intel-based systems with a preview release of Photoshop CS3," said John Loiacono, senior vice president of Creative Solutions Business Unit at Adobe.
The beta version will be available Friday morning from the Adobe Labs website. The Mac version is a Universal Binary, and system requirements call for a 1+ GHz G4 or G5 or any Intel-based Mac with 512MB of RAM. A Windows version is also available.

Adobe says the beta will expire soon after the formal release of Photoshop in Spring 2007. Final pricing is yet to be determined, however Photoshop CS2 currently is offered at $649 (full version, $169 upgrade).
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 05:39 PM   #2
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I cannot wait to see how this preforms. It's ingrained in by being that Phothsop is now an ass slow program on my MacBook Pro, load times are getting up to a minute on some larger one page files.
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 05:41 PM   #3
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A Quick Look at the New Features in Photoshop CS3, Public Beta Preview

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Old Dec 14, 2006, 05:42 PM   #4
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Oh my! Thought this day would never come. So overwhelmed.
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 09:20 PM   #5
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the new bridge is nice! I was thinking about bibble, but this may save me that. also, will PS CS3 include bridge and lightroom, or will bridge 2.0=lightroom? thanks
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 09:28 PM   #6
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If you want to get a headstart on training and new features NAPP already has training videos up. It looks great except for Bridge. They did some major copying of features from Aperture. Not nearly as well implemented however. (Loop tool, stacks etc.)

http://www.photoshopuser.com/cs3/index.html
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 05:45 PM   #8
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 05:48 PM   #9
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 05:48 PM   #10
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What exactly does the "Quick Select" tool let you do?

By the way, Adobe's page says
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 05:58 PM   #11
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Nice to see that they're getting somewhere but it doesn't sound like the speed increases they should have seen. I'd think, had they done it right, they'd be seeing more than 100 % increases, considering multiple processors and new efficiencies, but something is better than nothing.

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Though still a beta, Photoshop CS3 features substantial speed gains for Intel Macs, according to Adobe’s Nack.

“I upgraded to a MacBook Pro and Photoshop just screams on that,” Nack said. “We are seeing an 40 percent increase in speed in addition to the 30 percent speed increase in what Rosetta was able to do with the 10.4.8 update.”
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Nice to see that they're getting somewhere but it doesn't sound like the speed increases they should have seen. I'd think, had they done it right, they'd be seeing more than 100 % increases, considering multiple processors and new efficiencies, but something is better than nothing.
gah. Where to start. First off its a beta. Anyone care to guess how much debug code is probably still in this thing? Secondly 40% on a LAPTOP is nothing to sneeze at. Can you imagine what a desktop is going to be able to do? Third even Apple had issue out of the gate with the Intel transition. If people think Adobe is having a better transition then Apple I would say think again. My guess is that performance is going to increase over the next few patches....once it actually ships that is.

People really need to keep things in perspective.
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gah. Where to start. First off its a beta. Anyone care to guess how much debug code is probably still in this thing? Secondly 40% on a LAPTOP is nothing to sneeze at. Can you imagine what a desktop is going to be able to do? Third even Apple had issue out of the gate with the Intel transition. If people think Adobe is having a better transition then Apple I would say think again. My guess is that performance is going to increase over the next few patches....once it actually ships that is.

People really need to keep things in perspective.
People have kept things in perspective.

Adobe have had over 5 years to make their products fully Mac OS X compatible, which would have accelerated their move to the Intel-based machines. They chose to drag their feet. Their products still don't run well on PowerPC machines using Mac OS X.

Hopefully, the CS3 products will work well after everything is done but they've had plenty of opportunities to fix their mess.
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 06:52 PM   #14
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I will certainly be a CS3 customer: Photoshop 7 is getting a bit long in the tooth (bought it in 2002 for an iBook; I now use it on a powerBook).

Have found no reason yet to upgrade GoLive 6 -- still more powerful than anything yet developed for website creation (though iWeb is far easier to use).
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 08:03 PM   #15
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Have found no reason yet to upgrade GoLive 6 -- still more powerful than anything yet developed for website creation (though iWeb is far easier to use).
I totally agree. And, unlike the CS2 apps, GoLive 6 remains stable and relatively fast on my MacBook. I've tried the Universal Binary alternatives (iWeb, Freeway), and neither was to my liking.

I can't wait to get my hands on the Photoshop beta, though. (The way Photoshop CS2 runs on my MacBook, it might was well be a beta!)
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im looking forward to the mobile side of cs3 i build mobile games for java handset and this should make my life easier..............

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I really HOPE Adobe allows older (pre-CS2) versions of Photoshop to upgrade for less than full retail price.

Whatever was considered the oldest upgradable Photoshop at the time of Apple's Intel announcement should STILL be considered upgradable--since it only makes sense to have stopped upgrading at that time.

For instance, I was using PS7 still when Apple's Intel news came. I do every other upgrade, so I skipped PS8 (aka CS) and was ready to buy PS9 (aka CS2). But with the Intel news, I held off, waiting for PS10 (aka CS3).

Hopefully, even though I skipped TWO versions, my PS7 will still qualify for upgrade pricing next year. Seems only fair, since buying CS or CS2 for my Intel Mac would have been a waste. (I can understand paying a higher upgrade price than a CS2 user though.)
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I really HOPE Adobe allows older (pre-CS2) versions of Photoshop to upgrade for less than full retail price.

Whatever was considered the oldest upgradable Photoshop at the time of Apple's Intel announcement should STILL be considered upgradable--since it only makes sense to have stopped upgrading at that time.

For instance, I was using PS7 still when Apple's Intel news came. I do every other upgrade, so I skipped PS8 (aka CS) and was ready to buy PS9 (aka CS2). But with the Intel news, I held off, waiting for PS10 (aka CS3).

Hopefully, even though I skipped TWO versions, my PS7 will still qualify for upgrade pricing next year. Seems only fair, since buying CS or CS2 for my Intel Mac would have been a waste. (I can understand paying a higher upgrade price than a CS2 user though.)
I wonder what the upgrade options for educational versions will be. Apple was really good about that with the Universal version of FCS. Anyway, I'll still be a student when CS3 comes out (I think) so I should be able to get it at a steep discount anyway...
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where is the negative?

im waiting... there is usually a negative argument... damn, we sucks
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im waiting... there is usually a negative argument... damn, we sucks
I don't think there is anything negative about this. Yes, it will cost money, but everyone knows that. The educational version of Photoshop now is $288, so I'm sure it'll be the same for CS3. I'll just be looking forward to having it run natively.
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I really HOPE Adobe allows older (pre-CS2) versions of Photoshop to upgrade for less than full retail price.
Asobe's current policy is to allow you to upgrade to the current version from ANY previous version. The price does not go up if you skip a version. Currently the upgrade price on the Adobe on-line store is $169. (Photoshop, not the bundle) They say that if you have a very old copy of Photoshop that you need to call because the serial number system has changed since version 3 (I think it is 3 but maybe 2) I checked. I have a old floppy disk version of PS that ran on an M68000 based Mac (a IIci, I think) this machine was just recently retied to the city's re-cycle plant. But I will upgrade to PS CS3 the day it is released.
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Well with Photoshop going intel I wonder how long it will take for the resale value of the G4+G5 to go down??
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Well with Photoshop going intel I wonder how long it will take for the resale value of the G4+G5 to go down??
It already has! I tried to sell a PowerMac G4 and got 33% less than an identical model sold for before the Mac Pro came out.
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Well with Photoshop going intel I wonder how long it will take for the resale value of the G4+G5 to go down??
Well, it's a UB so it's not like it won't runon PPC chips.
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