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Old Jan 3, 2007, 09:36 PM   #51
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Anyone else out there wish that Apple would make a reasonably priced phone that did nothing but make calls and send text messages? I've yet to find a phone with an interface half as good as the iPod's...
No.

Go buy a firefly. Or a Jitterbug if you need to text.
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Old Jan 3, 2007, 09:46 PM   #52
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Old Jan 3, 2007, 09:52 PM   #53
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I would be happy if it's just acknowledged in the Stevenote. Because all we've heard up till now is speculation and rumors from everywhere except Apple. Not one confirmation of anything. Technically, this may be a case of rumors feeding rumors until they seem to become fact. Remember, everyone: An Apple Phone may not exist, now or ever.

That said, I really really want one.
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I'm willing to bet all my money that 16% of Americans will not buy this thing.
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Duh, that's an obvious sure bet. The question is, what will the other 84% of Americans do. Will they buy an Apple iPhone?
You had to go and say it...
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I think this iPhone is going to be a massive disappointment when people realize that all this phone does is allow you to make calls, text, use it as a 2 GB iPod Nano, and allow for video chat. That's actually all I want, but people looking for a keyboard or smartphone functionality like a BlackBerry/Treo are asking for too much. Does that even sound Apple-like? Apple tends to avoid making things more complex. One device does only a handful of things. They have a main purpose, and then a few things it CAN do. Look at the iPod. They haven't even added AM/FM radio to it yet, and how long have people requested that?

And even with basic styling, this iPhone will cost $500 USD, minimum.

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It's amazing to me how "real" the apple cell phone has become--not just to enthusiasts like us--but to the mainstream media and public at large.
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Old Jan 3, 2007, 10:16 PM   #56
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Charles Wolf expects[/url] Apple will sell the iPhone as an unlocked device through Apple stores.
The mobile/cell companies will love Apple for this... particularly as they'll get most of the support calls:-

Customer - "Hi - I've a new Apple iPhone - can you tell me how to set it up on your network?"

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Old Jan 3, 2007, 10:21 PM   #57
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What can apple really offer in the pda market that phones like the treos, htc's nokias & blackberrys dont already offer?

I mean come on one thing is to adore a company, buts its another when people just want a cool factor phone with ipod capabilities?

I really dont see any type of break thourgh functionality beiong deployed by apple.

Plus stop calling it iPhone please.

I remember in an interview where the owner of this site and another mac related website where asked
about why they think an apple phone would be so much better then veteran companies that push design and functionality already in the
cell phone market. Their whole answer was based around iPod, they did not answer the question properly. All they kept saying is ipod functionality and ease of use. Seriously motorola appeals to the young and hip (razr) nokia pushes technology and sleek designs into its phones. Treo and blackberrys appeal to business and end users both in functionality and looks. You have Htc's etc.

Last i checked the iPod was a music player far from a phone-Also last i checked apple had 0 experience in the cell phone market.
Apple is very predictable just look at their history they re-writte their own products and evolutionize it-and pass it as INNOVATIVE
an apple cell phone is most likely in the works i mean they had the newton before (flopped) they had the apple tv and the experimental set top box (both flopped) and now their bringing back those same ideas in hopes they nail it the second time around.

But in all honesty aopple should just stick to making computers thats what we know them by. They have failed horribly on other bussiness ventures and i think they will not succeed in the phone market. Too many well established cell phone makers out there that have an extreme amount of epxrience in this market. Their phones have been recreated after years and years to pefection to appeal.

A cell phone with ipod capabilites and nothing else? I have a slvr that do just that. So basically people are willing to spend up to 600 dollars for a apple branded slvr? WOW are you the same ones complaining about gas prices when they go up?

I will pass get on with the computers apple

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What can apple really offer in the pda market that phones like the treos, htc's nokias & blackberrys dont already offer?
A built in iPod?

Seriously... Apple has the iPod. Nokia has some great phones - they play music but I much prefer my iPod. But if I have my Nokia... it might sidetrack me from buying a future iPod. It certainly will start to encroach on iPod marketshare.

While Apple may make a better PDA than the existing competition (they certainly have a history of thinking differently)... I just want an average phone/pda, and a great iPod in one device. I do think that's easily doable for Apple.
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Old Jan 3, 2007, 10:32 PM   #59
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Long time reader, first time comment! I can't believe all of these comments about $500-600 for a phone being too expensive. In the phone industry, just like the computer industry (although Apple doesn't follow these rules), early-adopters pay high prices for phones when they first come out......

......Either that or every phone manufacturer worldwide has been ripping off early-adopters for a very long time. Could be a little bit of both.
Im in the phone industry and yes, phone manufacturers have been ripping off early-adopters for a very long time, in a way... Phone manufacturers dont have to charge a high price for the phone. But they do if the phone, like the early RAZR, is impressive enough to bring in that cash. Its the manufacturers call on weather they do or dont. Phone companies know that the real cash is in the service contracts. They could charge $75 for a new phone and still know they could make up the loss and more over time. It just takes longer.

This does backfire though. Just look at the Mobile ESPN phone that was killed a few months back. They charged $500 for the phone in the beginning thinking this would be a hugely sought after product for sports fans. It scared allot of people away. By the time they figured this out less then a half year later they were giving the phone away for free with the service plan. But it was too late...
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A built in iPod?

Seriously... Apple has the iPod. Nokia has some great phones - they play music but I much prefer my iPod. But if I have my Nokia... it might sidetrack me from buying a future iPod. It certainly will start to encroach on iPod marketshare.

While Apple may make a better PDA than the existing competition (they certainly have a history of thinking differently)... I just want an average phone/pda, and a great iPod in one device. I do think that's easily doable for Apple.
But thats my whole point, do you really need to carry around all your 60gbs of music in a cell phone? -software wise i bet money they will be some kind of issues between the phone and the mp3 player handling such excessive amount of files.

Besides the whole iPod thing what can apple revolutionize? email? video chat? text? wifi? all this have been provided for like 3-4 years already on many phones.

Besides the apple logo and most likely the white and gray colors-i see this apple phone being the first mistake of apples after 30 years. (I MEAN IF DURING THE FIRST 30 YEARS THEY HAD SO MANY FLOPS-HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF)
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Old Jan 3, 2007, 10:52 PM   #61
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I just watched the Special Event when Apple introduced the iPod Nano. Thinking about what they did with transitioning the iPod Mini to that product, it is really amazing. It was what? 68% smaller than the iPod Mini, they obviously built it from the ground up, it was ground breaking and beautiful.
If they can do the same thing that they did with the Nano, only with the ApplePhone, they obviously could have something incredible.
Just think of all the other phones on the market as the iPod Mini.
I don't know... just thinking...
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Besides the whole iPod thing what can apple revolutionize? email? video chat? text? wifi? all this have been provided for like 3-4 years already on many phones.
This is once again missing the point. Its NOT the features its the function. I have listened to all the gripping on these forums about how if Apple ONLY included an FM radio on the iPod it would do so much better Its true that all of these functions have been available on phone for some time but its also true that the great majority of users can't actually use them (the features). What Apple has been able to do, of recent, is to bring discipline to the design and product definition process to hit sweet spots. I don't think many sweet spots have been hit in the phone market - the right combination of features and functionality and ease of use. I sure haven't seen it.
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I wouldn't put too much faith in the unlocked speculation, that analyst has a shaky record for Apple predictions.
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I have 100% accurate information from a reliable source (of food) that the iphone will have the following features


the next roomba will include a dock for it
replaces EZ-Pass and Sleazy-Ass
docks in the crayon sharpener in crayola boxes, syncs color names
*you contact information will be scanned for viruses and copied onto a special KGB computer
iTV replaces all commercials with iPhone ads
includes a DPTFOoEArY (Dont Piss The ***** Out of Everyone Around You" feature
the vatican strongly denies its existence.
comes in the following "flavors": tar(black), painted tar (white)
games include Manhole and Peter Gabriels Secret World
is the ipod killer
polyphonic, multitimbral 7.1 ringtones
tracks your every thought so "They" can keep you safe
Jeff Goldblum appears in "I'm an iPhone, and I'm a walky talky" tv spots.
Orders TwoBoots pizza
Tracks santa via NORAD
can be consumed in place of a dietary suppliment
will take over the world and make humans it's slave.
accessories: cape, bandana, leg warmers, snow cone maker
*implements new MacroTechnology
object oriented
hand crafted leather flash memory
plays sadoku
someone on youtube hooked a wiimote up to it
hates george bush
loves george bush
required you to sign a DRM terms of use for which is the length of war and piece.
proprietary apple software "squirts" water at you
all it wants to do is zune zune zune and a boom boom. just shake your rump
All electronics are printed on the end of a grain of rice.
rice is hand picked from the mouths of starving children in Zimbabwe
Job's says "Apple has a long history of dealing with Zimbabwe." Apple stock recovers
iWasnt
runs on farts with light bulbs
runs on YouOS and new Secret Google OS code named Giggle
joins of "teh social"
amazing development tools
has eyballs that follow your mouse around the screen
dynamic advertizing improving your recognizablitiy
it's a swiss army knife of computer tools
fingerprint key fobs, magnetic strips, smart cards, physical keys
its got a built in calendar
known bugs include "doesn't do anything" "power cable sucks ass and costs 80 bucks"
its your savior in a bottle with bad behavior on the throttle
come one come all its the iphone with a GPS uplink that will have your jaw hit the floor
It will have a trash can AND a recycling bin
OLED LCD Plasma ambilight display
comes in iphone, iphone XL, iphone GS and iPhone 3000
keeps you warm on lonely nights
multi touch single touch RF IR technology
RFID tags to track your every movement and when you have bowel movements
lowers prices so YOU the consumer have a higher standard of living
small form factor
substantial feel
its a swan in teacup, drives camels through needles
new noise reduction unit keeps you from hearing noise
IONIC!
powers via usb, car charger, wall wart 110 and 220 and A 440
not just a phone. its a solution and a revaluation
new 2 in one technology uses shampoo and conditioner
ass warmers come standard with fold out display
patented AND patent pending
will drive stock prices through the roof
integrates with USB poll dancer and fondu pot
cooled by vegetable oil
can be used as a wii controller via PS3 adapter
perfect for dating
built in holodeck
open source security features
automatically emails you fark updates
recognizes morse code and swahili
free harmonic fingerprint recognition mobilization engine
lengthens your commute in seconds
noise cancelation
runs on love
rechargeable indestructible exploding lithium ion photon battery
built in SCSI zip DAT minidisc and floppy drive
liquid cooled
tamagotchi jenga and sodoku
its pin compatible with amd ppc motorola and GSM phones
stereoscopic goggles
Java Basic C++ Logo smalltalk and TCP/IP/I really gotta pee.
blood tests with out painful pin pricks
support vonage and skype
5 blade action
runs on pure corn (not biodiesil, just plain corn)
recieves faxes
more than just a name
direct integration with iTV
force feeds starving babies in africa metal shavings
prevents proliferation treaties
brews the perfect cappuccino
multitouch 3d oled display with 40,000 songs
hdmi port which plugs into your face!!!!!!
fight off terr'ists.
USB PLIAR WIRE
fios dsl cable compatible
more energy efficient, consumer friendly and lowers the bottom line
built in mic pre amps
teledildonics
future proof
anti life and anti choice
so zen that it's not there
comes in every color and a (RED) version
causes and prevents Cancer, Parkinson's and birth defects
ask your doctor if iPhone is right for you
ichat av
full of zagat resteraunt reviews
signs checks with laser etching
iTunes built in to the purpose built hardware
surfs the web with firefox and QT
reminds you to take your pills
better syncing with ical, iLife, Ideath, and iWork, and iSocialSecurity!
voice control, voice synthesis, brail and esperanto
eats kitties
automatically downloads the latest harry potter and tiny nibbles
integrated second life.
complete support you tube enabled footwear!!!!
syncs your ical with the latest presidential scandals
SDIF, WAVE,SDII,AIFF,RAW, mp1, mp2 mp3 mp4, ogg vorbis and throgs neck, 1300 kbps per second!!!!evendy levin!
going to play nintendo DS games with the multitouch 3d display and
compatibility with windows, 3d studio max and built in google
come in white plastic, black and red Utube version and special all black marilyn manson version fully loaded with nietze audio books
the second version will be in the platinum and titanium.
does dialup
talking moose
* its going to expand the apple brand into the toaster territory
it will never be released in france
HAHA NEWTONS!!!!
eats palm treos and has little gadget sex with side kicks
plugs straight into your new icar,VW beetle, PT cruiser, and dodge neon.... Hi.
expandable, future proof and retractable
the batteries have gun powder in them
it's got a virtual jeff raskin on it.
taser and pepper spray
96 kHz 24bit with thousands of colors.
backward sideways and forward compatible
its all offloaded on to the graphics card.
act now and get a free pass to the front of the genius bar line
incompatible with verizon
blows moores law out of the water
HD DVD BluRay CD and 8track compatible
gets its time from an international universal atomic clock server in cupertino HQ
mapquest on star and RSS feeds and pod/vid/textcasts
screen saver module with flying toasters.
exclusively on verizon network
boss mode
anti virus software so hackers dont steal you "home made" pornos
the DRM code adds nin terabytes to the phone totaling 9 extra lbs
it slices it dices and for god sake stop this fricken rumor


If you experience chest pain, crashes, nausea, fatal errors, or any other discomforts during email or sex, seek immediate medical help. The most common side effects of iPhone use are headache, facial flushing, and upset stomach, and strained eyes. Less commonly, bluish vision, blurred vision, or sensitivity to light may briefly occur. In rare instances, men using iPhone (oral erectile dysfunction medicines, including iPhone) reported a sudden decrease or loss of vision. It is not possible to determine whether these events are related directly to these medicines or to other factors. If you experience sudden decrease or loss of vision, stop using iPhone, including iPhone, and call a doctor right away.

Although erections lasting for more than 4 hours may occur rarely with all ED treatments in this drug class, to avoid long-term injuries, it is important to seek immediate medical help.

If you are older than age 65, or have serious liver or kidney problems, your doctor may start you at iPhoneShuffle. If you are taking protease inhibitors, such as for the treatment of HIV, your doctor may recommend a 25-mg dose and may limit you to a maximum single dose of 25 mg of iPhone in a 48-hour period.
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Meh. Phone smone. Where's my 100GB Video iPod?


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I have 100% accurate information from a reliable source (of food) that the iphone will have the following features


the next roomba will include a dock for it
replaces EZ-Pass and Sleazy-Ass
docks in the crayon sharpener in crayola boxes, syncs color names
*you contact information will be scanned for viruses and copied onto a special KGB computer
iTV replaces all commercials with iPhone ads
includes a DPTFOoEArY (Dont Piss The ***** Out of Everyone Around You" feature
the vatican strongly denies its existence.
comes in the following "flavors": tar(black), painted tar (white)
games include Manhole and Peter Gabriels Secret World

yada yada yada.
Dude. You need to get a life. Really. No I'm dead serious.
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Besides the whole iPod thing what can apple revolutionize? email? video chat? text? wifi? all this have been provided for like 3-4 years already on many phones.
I agree.

The only thing I can think of is that along with an iPod built-in, they make video phone chat piss easy. I don't know anybody who video chat's on their mobile phone, despite the capability to do so on the phone they have. Maybe Apple has a new phone service coming out.

Oh, and WiFi, along with "Skype"-like phone calls. Hey, free phone calls to other iPhone customers as long as they're both at a location with WiFi? No sweat. Lots of homes have them anyway, and if two friends are sitting in their own homes, they can chat over the air for the cost of an internet connection each month. If the person wants to phone a regular phone line or someone who isn't near a WiFi service, then maybe Apple has a Skype-Out service coming out.

That, and iTMS access.

I really don't know. Either way, I agree with you that they're not going to revolutionize the way we write text, take photos with our phones*yawn*, or search the web on the phone. It won't be a Smartphone competitor, because I don't think they can compete. It'll be a lifestyle device for sure.
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Dude. You need to get a life. Really. No I'm dead serious.
why do people think this is so labor intensive? all I do is add 20 absurd lines of text per iphone rumor. would this require brain power for others
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hmm..maybe if you have VZW/Sprint

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The mobile/cell companies will love Apple for this... particularly as they'll get most of the support calls:-

Customer - "Hi - I've a new Apple iPhone - can you tell me how to set it up on your network?"

Cell Company - "Nope".
Considering that IF this device comes out, it will probably be GSM which is as simple as popping in the SIM card..even my mother can do that

As for the daunting text/data settings..They can come preloaded with the settings for the various US gsm carriers.. heck they could set up a website a la Nokia and you pick your carrier and it sends you all the settings.. no call to <insert cell co here>
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Is this going to be an American only device or should we here in Australia expect to see something compatible with Australian GSM?
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Given that cell phones generally suck, this is one product I can't wait for Apple to do right. It doesn't have to be fancy, just great.

MWSF would be wonderful. I'll buy it at any price.
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Well, here's what I want for the iPod Phone.

It's quite simple. Take the idea of the 6G "True Video" iPod with 640x480 screen, add a pull out numpad and give it the ability to make calls and send text messages. No camera. If you want a camera, spend the money and buy something decent. If you want a pda, spend the money and buy one. Of course the iPod Video will have integration with iTunes, and probably iCal too, but that's just software, and won't make the iPod super expensive.

The big thing for me is I want it to have a Hard Disk Drive. One of the new 100 GB HD's would be awesome, as I could then fill it up with movies. And of course movies would be more than just watchable on a 640x480 screen. Touch screen interface, or touch sensitive frame would be good too, and most likely neccessary for this size screen.

So...

Can make calls and text. Can play movies on big LCD, plays music for up to 24 hours. Touch sensitive frame / screen. Up to 100 GB HDD. Price < US$500?

So who wants one?
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why are they still calling it the iphone? The names already taken.
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Correction: 16% of Americans polled say that the iPhone is a "great idea" for them personally.

No polling agency can talk to all 300 million americans.
I was thinking that myself when I read it, technically it's a false claim without that word added in.

Although it's never necessary to survey an entire population for such things. Surveying 10,000 people could still be relatively just as accurate (as long as the methods used are accurate and representative of the poplation at large).
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This is just wishful thinking, but I certainly do hope the iPhone has PDA-like functionality. Actually it'd be great if it were much like the Nokia N73, but Apple-ified.

Tight synchronization with iLife apps is an obvious must (I'd love to sync my phone and have my recently-snapped photos be automatically imported into iPhoto). And the iPod-simply music playing experience is also obvious. I'd like to do all synchronization via bluetooth, though transfering songs may understandably require a cable connection. I also need a phone I can connect my MBP to use as a modem when I can't find a hotspot. And lastly, to accompany a good push-email IMAP app (or at least gmail), a qwerty keyboard would be great. The keyboard isn't make-or-break for me, but I'd really like one.

Tight sync
Decent camera (>= 2MP please)
Solid bluetooth connectivity
Email functions

That's what I hope. But that's all, I just hope. I'm really looking forward to the Keynote.
I think you hit the nail on the head with some of the comments you made...

I think the thing that will set it apart from the rest of the phones is it's ability to sync with iLife. It needs to be done by bluetooth or some other cordless option... EITHER WAY...

There are PDA's available, but none of them really sync with computers other than the Address Books... and that tends to never work on Apple without third party software.

But now look at all of the video and pictures you take with your phone... at least I know I do.

I hate having to send my pictures to my e-mail (two at a time on my Samsung A-900). I think the USB solution works but is not user friendly (for less computer savy people).

I know a lot of people that have amazing phones, but only make phone calls because it isn't easy to access all of the cool features.

Somebody said way back in the day when these "iPhone" rumors first started, "Apple didn't invent mp3 players, Apple just made them better."

I think the same thing will happen at MWSF. Watch as you are able to upload your photos to iPhoto, create a web page in iWeb that is solely dedicated to your phone photos and videos. Save your videos in iTunes and access them at a later date. You'll be able to actually view iCal on something other than your computer. The address book will be able to sync.

I could go on forever, but in my opinion, the apple cell phone will set itself apart from the rest of the phone developers by doing the same old things in a much more user friendly way.

I'm pretty excited to see how it all works out.
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CAN WE CALL IT THE EYE-PHONE?

or the AIY-PHONE?
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