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Join Date: Jul 2004
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What Jobs told me on the iPhone
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not a bad read
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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That Jobs! What chutzpah. Damn good read.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Very interesting. I agree with him on the whole tablet thing. Most people think they want one, but then it ends up being more of a novelty. I used to want one, and then my dad was given one for his work to try out and I got to use it quite a bit and it wasn't much fun to use at all. Granted it was running Windows, but I don't know how Apple could make it more useful (knock on wood). I'd take a PDA over a Tablet any day. I hope Apple takes their time making a tablet. I want it to be right the first time.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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LOL! Prestigious and NIH just doesnt mix in my books... but thats maybe because I live in Bethesda, MD have been there... |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: 9th Circle most of the time
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People are STILL wanting a friggen tablet? Are you serious?
Its a niche market, thats all I can see it as, ever being. People dont comfortably hold clipboards, especially ones that weigh 2-5lbs.
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Join Date: May 2003
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i am holding off on a Blackberry Pearl just in case apple comes out with something nearly as good (tho probably in a different way) tuesday.
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: London
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Sucky MP3 players -> iPod Sucky tablets -> iTouch If loads of people have something, people say its a saturated market. If not many people have something, its niche. What market type should apple enter? |
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Good read.
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Location: Oxford, UK
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Tablets will always remain a niche computer that no one ever really wants. Yea, it's neat to be able to take with with you and such, but when you realize that they are usually crippled compared to a portable that could be much, much thinner and lighter, then what's the point?
I, like a poster above, am holding off on deciding what smartphone I want until I see what Apple releases next week. Granted, if the "iPhone" doesn't have Wi-Fi built in, I won't be getting it as the Windows Mobile Treo that Cingular is going to start selling does. |
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macrumors Demi-God
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i hope more for an Apple super compact lappy than for a tablet. who knows. and they could do it well too. that was a good read and very interesting. thanks for posting it BV.
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
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Except that Apple will probably not make a smaller portable than what they have. 13.3 inches is already pretty small and what you lose in display size by making a 12" portable you gain back in thickness...
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Apple is already a niche company, making niche products (the iPod now excluded from that). The resources needed to develop a better MP3 player are much different than a tablet computer, which, to be "better" enough to compete, would require a lot of R&D.
I think tablets are cool in concept. However, what do they really offer that a laptop does not? Do people REALLY want to write notes? Hell, I cant read my own handwriting half the time. How can a computer? I realize there are all sorts of other types of notes that are easier to document by drawing (diagrams, etc) but perhaps a tablet is not the solution to this need. The phone is where its at for the next step in Apples domination strategy; the article states what we already know. They are ready for Apple simplification and emotional "excitement"
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depends. if they were willing to go without the optical drive and make it an external attachment, and even a 11" widescreen would be good enough for me. for what i would like it for. i know there are some nice Sony Vios this size and they feel alright, sell for a high price, but they don't run OS X so i'll never get one. but it sure is possible.
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I always feel its a bad idea to enter a crowded mobile phone market. lets wait and see if market will embrace or ditch apple's mobile phone, after all, buyers now want more functions in their phones, not just great design.
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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I'm sorry, you can no longer have a Blackberry. Steve has declared them to be a niche product with no future of convergence.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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Steve Jobs Meetings, Tablets, and iPhones
![]() This Guardian.co.uk article describes Steve Jobs presence at executive meetings and recounts his comments during a meeting with the National Institutes of Health CIO in 2002. At the time, the iPod was just a year old, and the Microsoft had recently launched a tablet form factor PC. Jobs reportedly had a number of reasons that tablets were not a product he was interested in producing. These included - small market - bad form factor - high wireless bandwidth not available - poor screen resolution for medical images In September 2002, he made a similar public statements expressing doubts about the Tablet form factor Quote:
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Let's hope it really is better than a computer or phone by itself
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Well, Steve got the Tablet right - its still niche market today.
Blackberry - well, they are more popular today than in 2002 - but its not the blackberry itself, its the *messaging*. Any smartphone ( Symbian etc ) can do anything that the BB can do - its nothing special. Any iPhone should have excellent messaging abilities - but that messaging ( text, graphics, video ) will have to be compatible with existing phones - otherwise there's not much point ( a lot of phones now have BB compatibility such as SE Pxxx range and Nokia's E-Series ). That messaging already exists - SMS, MMS ( MMS - which has still yet to become popular ) so its all about the applications and phone interface. Sleek design with sleek applications. Good integration with Macs - Syncing and good range of built in apps. Of course, Music too. Most importantly, ease of use. Any iPhone should have a good SDK to encourage third party developers. You get a good development base, your on to a winner.
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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lets not forget what he said about video ipods.
"they're digging in the wrong place!"
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Join Date: May 2002
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The author has a blog called apple peels (linked at the bottom of the article) that is quite good also... his opinion is informed but a bit dated it seems.
He seems to have lived a pretty interesting life.
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people were writing really funny stuff on this forum when the iPod was released, about what a terrible idea it was. "What a niche market!"
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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I got the impression Steve Jobs was God while reading this... Well it certainly reads that way.
The only flaw I see in the launch of a compact MP3/Phone 'iPhone' to Apple is that it will crush the iPod market. Nothing really combines the features of a MP3 player with a phone seamlessly. It will do just what the camera phone did to the digital camera market and subsequently the video market (videos are a booming sucess just not as a method of communication). People love intergration. |
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