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Old May 17, 2003, 02:45 AM   #1
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Mozilla Firebird v0.6 OSX port

Mozilla.org has (finally) released v0.6 of their stripped down version of Mozilla, formerly known as Phoenix (changed for legal reasons) and what may be of intrest to Mac users is a fully supported OSX port, unlike the last one which was just a simple recompile.

Get it here along with the Windows/Linux versions as well.


http://mozilla.org/projects/firebird/release-notes.html
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Old May 17, 2003, 03:16 AM   #2
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Its pretty slick , but not great. I ran the Pc version through VPC to see how far it has to come and well its got a long way....

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Old May 17, 2003, 03:32 AM   #3
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Why is Phoenix being ported over with Camino based on the same code? Is there any advantage to using Phoenix vs. Camino? Or is it just another option kind of thing?

Not trying to start a flamewar, just interested in the differences / advantages?

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Old May 17, 2003, 06:57 AM   #4
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Main difference between the 2 is Firebird is based on the XUL toolkit which means its interface is truly cross platform, whereas Camino is based on cocoa. Firebird is also the new direction the mozilla is taking so it will become Mozilla browser after the current mozilla 1.4 is finished. Also there are a few feature/ui differences, firebird is aimed at offering only the essential functions, but with the ability to add more through extensions.
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Old May 17, 2003, 08:19 AM   #5
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firebird is wintels best browser, surpaces anything. Its great for PC
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Old May 17, 2003, 04:50 PM   #6
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Phoenix is the best browser on the planet ... IMHO. The mac version isn't as up to par, but I prefer it to Camino for the only reason that it actually lines up the tabs on the left --- hopefully it'll get better. It'll also be interesting how Camino works out into the scheme of things, when Phoenix/Firebird (I still don't understand how that name's cleared when there's a databasing program named Firebird, #1 on google search) and Safari seem ready to be the major contenders for the IE-unhappy folks...
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Old May 17, 2003, 09:43 PM   #7
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I'm trying out the Linux version. Some of the icons look a little "XPish" but one thing I noticed right away is the scrolling. It's very quick and responsive. Much better than Phoenix, Moz 1.3, or Camino.
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Old May 17, 2003, 09:55 PM   #8
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Looks pretty good. Takes a little longe than I would like to startup, but other than that... Still prefer Camino, but this is better than a lot of other browsers out there.

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Old May 18, 2003, 12:06 PM   #9
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Firebird is really awesome for PC, but my favorite web browser is still Safari!
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Old May 22, 2003, 11:04 AM   #10
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firebird is wintels best browser, surpaces anything. Its great for PC
and for linux, as galeon is ( for me the second best browser ) becoming fat and slow.
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Old May 23, 2003, 09:10 AM   #11
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Is it just me, or is scrolling on Firebird OS X painfully slow? I even turned off smoothscroll manually, and my processor still jumps to 100% whenever I try scrolling down. Interestingly, hitting the down arrow on my keyboard is a lot worse than clicking the downarrow on the scrollbar with my mouse.
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Old May 24, 2003, 04:32 PM   #12
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Is it just me, or is scrolling on Firebird OS X painfully slow? I even turned off smoothscroll manually, and my processor still jumps to 100% whenever I try scrolling down. Interestingly, hitting the down arrow on my keyboard is a lot worse than clicking the downarrow on the scrollbar with my mouse.
I downloaded it just try it out. I noticed the same thing. Scrolling is a fairly basic thing to do, no?
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Old May 24, 2003, 10:16 PM   #13
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my processor still jumps to 100% whenever I try scrolling down.
My iBook does the same thing with Camino. And that's with 32MB of vram and QE.
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Old May 25, 2003, 03:41 PM   #14
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Doesn't do it in Safari.

Firebird is terribly slow! When i sized the window to a large size, it was very choppy and slow.

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