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Old Feb 12, 2007, 12:42 PM   #1
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More Multitouch from Jeff Han



In January we'd reported that Jeff Han had formed his own company called Perspective Pixel to market large versions of his Multi Touch screen to companies.

Here's a new demo from Han on a much larger display. It appears they've created more user-inteface methods for touch screen -- with menus and selection methods being demoed:

http://www.macrumors.com/2007/02/12/...from-jeff-han/
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 12:43 PM   #2
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There is no link to new Jeff Han stuff...

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Old Feb 12, 2007, 12:49 PM   #3
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This is so cool but what type of computer do you think that is able to run something like that? How long before these multi touch displays come to market?
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 12:53 PM   #4
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This is so cool but what type of computer do you think that is able to run something like that? How long before these multi touch displays come to market?
I think that the scientific market will be first, but concepts (e.g. stretching photos) are used in products like iPhone and will be implemented gradually and hopefully seamlessly into existing products as and when they become economically viable.
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 12:53 PM   #5
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This is so cool but what type of computer do you think that is able to run something like that? How long before these multi touch displays come to market?
Later this year.

June 11th WWDC: New tablet MBPs + "secret features" in Leopard!

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Old Feb 12, 2007, 12:56 PM   #6
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Later this year.

June 11th WWDC: New tablet MBPs + "secret features" in Leopard!

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I am now officially holding you to that!
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 01:09 PM   #7
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totally out of minority report....i love it


this looks really cool, probably not very efficient for video editing, but cool
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 01:11 PM   #8
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totally out of minority report....i love it


this looks really cool, probably not very efficient for video editing, but cool
I would have thought that dragging things to be where you want them would be perfect for video editing...
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 02:50 PM   #9
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totally out of minority report....i love it
My thoughts exactly ...

Now when do we get iMacs with built in display wall?
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 12:53 PM   #10
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This reminds me of the stacks patent when the guy groups all those pictures together and then piles them together.
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 12:55 PM   #11
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This reminds me of the stacks patent when the guy groups all those pictures together and then piles them together.
But that was horribly inefficient e.g. you could not see the picture, just an icon representing a jpeg file...
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 02:27 PM   #12
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That is just absolutely amazing!
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 05:14 PM   #13
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Wow. That's truly amazing. I loved the part with the dragging of pictures on the screen.

I can see Apple using this for a Macbook model in the future, with the multi-touch keyboard on screen. I wonder if this would be received as negative, as many people like a physical keyboard.
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 05:20 PM   #14
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Wow. That's truly amazing. I loved the part with the dragging of pictures on the screen.

I can see Apple using this for a Macbook model in the future, with the multi-touch keyboard on screen. I wonder if this would be received as negative, as many people like a physical keyboard.
Why not both? I loved how he searched into the search bar and all the photos matching his search flung out...
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 05:44 PM   #15
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ok think of this... turn your MBP into nintendo DS w/ this technology. your top case becomes a screen also (the top case is the keyboard area). then your MBP would become a clam that would open up to show off two beatiful displays both w/ the multi-touch tech. there would be a multitouch keyboard... and who would need a mouse anymore... this would be great for video editing and photo-manipulation... you could also use a stylus to have more precise movement. it would also be like a tablet and a regular laptop combined

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Old Feb 12, 2007, 06:10 PM   #16
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80 - Core + multi touch + OS X = Unstoppable

so this "new" multi touch system is pretty sweet but can you imagine if you put the worlds best OS and fastest processor w/ it?
http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-6158...-0-5&subj=news
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 03:29 AM   #17
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I think this user input method will be implemented heavily soon, and for ALL apps and all types of users. The reason that it will only be practical for a small group at first is because right now everything is, by design, geared towards the mouse/keyboard/display configuration. It's a gradual process, but once it's recognized that this kind of technology is quicker and more intuitive than the current standard, manufacturers, and most importantly, developers will GET BEHIND it. That's all it will take to make it practical for widespread use.
Go back 30 years. From what I gather, the graphic user interface was invented by Xerox employees, but was laughed off the boardroom table by the company executives. This is because it had absolutely no use at the time - no established, usable apps that worked with it - just like multi-touch now. But then, Apple took that idea (stole it with permission) and turned it basically into what we use on all computers today. I can imagine it would have been a long, laborious, and RISKY process to develop, launch, and get industry support for a computer system based on this brand new GUI concept, but it turned out to be much more efficient and useful to lots more people than a blinking cursor. I think multi-touch is going to be the next logical step in UI, it's just that like any innovation that is intended for such widespread use, it will take time for everyone involved to jump on the wagon, and it will have to happen in a very transitional fashion - not a big jump. It will also take some cajones on the part of those who first implement it in a big way - perhaps this is Apple and the iPhone, or perhaps it will be someone else.

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If the iPhone runs a slimmed down version of 10.5 than multitouch could well be inside 10.5... and making a tablet or even a laptop with touchscreen much more interesting then any other available equivalent. and yes, Piles would work very well with multitouch.
I think thats an interesting comment - why not! Another thing that interests me on that note is the question of why Apple allowed Axiotron to make the Modbook. Could it be so that they have a testing device to work with while still in sandbox mode? I'm not counting on any serious touch screen implementation in 10.5, but hell, the iPhone shocked me, and the technology exists....why not?
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 03:37 AM   #18
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THAT is friggin wild... 37" multitouch iMac, anyone?
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 03:43 AM   #19
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Do you see?

Sup guys, haven't posted here before but figured i'd give it a try. Did anyone see that MAC OS X is the operating system for the video? It is clearly visible in this screenshot (or if you don't believe me then go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysEVYwa-vHM and skip to 3:10 / 3:33.

Notes: Spotlight in top right corner, apple sign in top left. - the rest of the mac toolbar is fairly obvious, and the background appears to be the standard Apple background. Anyway, tell my what ya think?

I imagine Leopard will be the reveal of this, as speculated.
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 03:54 AM   #20
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As many have pointed out, this is very cool, but not at all usefull for 99% of things even 75% of computer users would use. I think Sachamun has a good point this could be the next big UI much like the mouse and gui came together years ago BUT we need apps and things behind it.

First, think of how you interact. We do a LOT of typing. In the current state of things, this type of UI would not work because we speach recognition seems to have been left out of the OS. I know OSX has speach not sure about Vista and certainly 3rd party apps exist. But after putting in calendars, email programs and making web browsers part of the OS - why has Apple and MS left speach behind? For a UI like the one shown you are going to be moving back and forth between a screen and keyboard. It will be very difficult to catch on en mass. Talk about repetitive motion injury! Screen. Keyboard. Screen. Keyboard. Screen. Keyboard.

Second, what apps do most people use? Web browser is on top of the list I'm sure, along with email program, maybe a calendar, chat and word processing program. These simple apps take up the majority of the average home user time. Zoom in/zoom out some use. Move documents around (piles type interface) potentially useful but like spotlight and expose this will take the masses a ton of time to change habits.
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 03:00 PM   #21
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Old Feb 12, 2007, 05:15 PM   #22
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i can imagine myself just moving and resizing things all day and not actually doing anything I love how these new "productivity" developments just entice me to waste more time
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 06:57 AM   #23
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WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT RUNNING ON????!

The bit where all those windows were being shifted around with real-time video playing seemlessly, as well as only heaven knows how much VRAM would be needed to handle the huge dual screens, no single machine could handly that, surely - I bet it wasn't a Mac (as much as I hate to say it!). How many tethered PCs did it take to create that wildly impressive demo?!
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I bet it wasn't a Mac (as much as I hate to say it!). How many tethered PCs did it take to create that wildly impressive demo?!
Why couldn't it have been tethered Macs? They run 25 tethered PowerMac G5's to run 50 30" ACDs.
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