Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard 9A377a Seeded

MacRumors · Mar 2, 2007, 08:16 AM

According to published reports on the internet, Apple has seeded Mac OS X 10.5 Leaoprd build 9A377a to developers.

The new seed contains a long list of known issues involving Time Machine, Safari, iChat, Spotlight, Finder and more. Meanwhile, only a few changes are explicitly listed in the seeding notes.

Apple is expected to release Leopard in "Spring" 2007.

Mgkwho · Mar 2, 2007, 08:34 AM

So still nothing we can gain from this build about the 'top secret' features, right? Or is it too early to tell...

That long list still makes it sound like Leopard is a fair ways away

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-=|Mgkwho

samh004 · Mar 2, 2007, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mgkwho

So still nothing we can gain from this build about the 'top secret' features, right? Or is it too early to tell...

That long list still makes it sound like Leopard is a fair ways away

.

-=|Mgkwho

Gah! I can't take this waiting game much more, just reveal the secret features already and fix all the bugs, and ship it.

I just want spaces, I'm running out of screen space.

mooty · Mar 2, 2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by samh004

I just want spaces, I'm running out of screen space.

There are apps that do that already and have been around for ages...

cwedl · Mar 2, 2007, 08:57 AM

Still loads of known issues, hoping these would have been fixed.

hob · Mar 2, 2007, 09:09 AM

I'm just getting bored of 10.4 !!

C'monn... spring is here! The days are getting longer!

synth3tik · Mar 2, 2007, 09:12 AM

I have "time machine" drives set up for all my computers I just need this.....

KingofAwesome · Mar 2, 2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Macrumors

The new seed contains a long list of known issues involving Time Machine, Safari, iChat, Spotlight, Finder and more. Meanwhile, only a few changes are explicitly listed in the seeding notes.

Does "long list of known issues" mean that they're letting the developers know that they know that there are still issues, or are they saying "these are the issues that we knew about and we fixed"?

Oh, and Apple, three words regarding Leopard: Gimme, gimme, gimme. And as a postscript, let me add: now, please.

MrCrowbar · Mar 2, 2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofAwesome

Does "long list of known issues" mean that they're letting the developers know that they know that there are still issues, or are they saying "these are the issues that we knew about and we fixed"?

Oh, and Apple, three words regarding Leopard: Gimme, gimme, gimme. And as a postscript, let me add: now, please.

Those "Knows Issues" are still issues, but the people at Apple know about them. Usually, the developers send bug reports to Apple when they see that there's a bug in Leopard. So the known issues are usually the ones that are fixed in the next builds.

Time Machine is an essential and important part of Leopard. If this doesn't work properly, your backups might be screwed up and consumers might get angry at Apple for that.

cshehadi · Mar 2, 2007, 10:09 AM

I hope it's not bad form to post links to other mac sites - but here's a list of "Known Issues":

http://loop.worldofapple.com/archive...s-adc-members/

and here's a changelog:

http://www.deliciousmacs.com/changes...d-since-9a343/

KingofAwesome · Mar 2, 2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MrCrowbar

Those "Knows Issues" are still issues, but the people at Apple know about them.

Damn. I was desperately hoping that they were saying it fixed those issues. Still, if they are "known issues" and will be fixed in the next build, that's better than nothing, maybe, I hope.

I have a feeling I won't be able to postpone my purchase until 10.5 comes out. The guy buying my mini is getting antsy. But like they say, even if a new model comes out the day after I buy one, I'll still be getting a great machine.

volvoben · Mar 2, 2007, 10:17 AM

Well, trying to be positive here, I guess the more frequent the seeds, the closer we are to release...still, 'spring' begins in 18 days, so Apple has 3.5 months to release it. With the number of known bugs and the lack of any new features, I'm afraid I'm sticking with a June release prediction. Maybe not shipping until July even. Yuck, but we can hope all this delay means a bugless and productive OS from day 1.

On a side note, I'm playing around with virtual desktop programs now to soothe my need for spaces. they work well, but they're certainly not as slick or well implemented as spaces looks to be...

shrimpdesign · Mar 2, 2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mooty

There are apps that do that already and have been around for ages...

Yeah. VirtueDesktops, the feature complete and stable desktop manager

C'mon. You and I both know that no free desktop manager application that does the same thing as Spaces.

You can see all your desktops in one view. Can you do that with Virtue?
You can easily drag and drop windows from desktop to desktop. Can you do that easily in Virtue?
It's integrated. As in, no longer a hack. When you assign Applications to a specific desktop, they'll stay there no questions asked.

cshehadi · Mar 2, 2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofAwesome

I have a feeling I won't be able to postpone my purchase until 10.5 comes out. The guy buying my mini is getting antsy.

Yeah, I got tired of waiting and just ordered an iMac. As my wife pointed out - just regaining the lost hours I spend checking macrumors every day for news on the leopard release - just that productivity increase alone, justifies buying it now, and not thinking about Leopard anymore.

of course here I am reading the macrumors forums again.... heh heh... hmm...

back to work...

longofest · Mar 2, 2007, 10:18 AM

No way Leopard is going to be released this month.

twoodcc · Mar 2, 2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by longofest

No way Leopard is going to be released this month.

hey, don't say that. keep the faith. it's coming, and this is a sign that they are fixing the bugs

Donnacha · Mar 2, 2007, 10:22 AM

Leopard is due in "Spring", right?

Here in the UK, I think Spring is considered to be the whole months of March, April and May but I remember reading once that it's different in some countries who base their seasons on the equinox etc rather than whole calendar months. When does Spring begin for Americans?

Donnacha · Mar 2, 2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by longofest

No way Leopard is going to be released this month.

Don't they have to get Leopard released before they can release FCP or any big hardware announcements?

Looking at those other events on the horizon, I've developed the feeling that Leopard would appear around the end of March, seems like that would slot in well and tie in with Apple's recent habit of delivering early.

Weren't there also reports recently that work on Leopard was moving at a much faster pace than expected?

Curtis72 · Mar 2, 2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Donnacha

Leopard is due in "Spring", right?

Here in the UK, I think Spring is considered to be the whole months of March, April and May but I remember reading once that it's different in some countries who base their seasons on the equinox etc rather than whole calendar months. When does Spring begin for Americans?

In the U.S., Spring is based on the Equinox. So for 2007, Spring starts on March 20th and ends on June 20th.

marktesssing · Mar 2, 2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Donnacha

Leopard is due in "Spring", right?

Here in the UK, I think Spring is considered to be the whole months of March, April and May but I remember reading once that it's different in some countries who base their seasons on the equinox etc rather than whole calendar months. When does Spring begin for Americans?

March 20th or 21st

reckless_0001 · Mar 2, 2007, 10:39 AM

You know what catches my eye? the "a" at the end of the build number, does that indicate a different version of this build exists?

Donnacha · Mar 2, 2007, 10:41 AM

Thanks guys.

That's a pity, I guess that means longofest is right and we almost certainly won't see it this month.

Good to hear, though, that Europe is ahead on something other than mobile phones.

jonharris200 · Mar 2, 2007, 10:49 AM

So glad I went and ordered my MacBook anyway. Sounds like Leopard won't arrive for a few months yet.

Rocketman · Mar 2, 2007, 10:52 AM

I am looking forward to 10.4.9 more than 10.5.0. I want stability over features.

When 10.5.1 or 10.5.2 comes out I will get excited and buy new hardware with it or which can update to it.

I got tired of being the bleeding edge guy for my primary machines some years ago. It gets old to have unexplained problems that you can avoid by waiting a month.

When you are the guy who waits you get the added entertainment of watching other people going through "Jerry Springer" moments on their primary or only machines

Rocketman

ejsavage · Mar 2, 2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by longofest

No way Leopard is going to be released this month.

Yea it looks like it may be around the time of WWDC 2007. Thats my guess. Maybe sooner but I doubt it. Heres hoping that it's May, as that is when I am getting my new IMac.

Mar 2, 2007, 08:16 AM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard 9A377a Seeded According to published reports on the internet, Apple has seeded Mac OS X 10.5 Leaoprd build 9A377a to developers. The new seed contains a long list of known issues involving Time Machine, Safari, iChat, Spotlight, Finder and more. Meanwhile, only a few changes are explicitly listed in the seeding notes. Apple is expected to release Leopard in "Spring" 2007.

Mar 2, 2007, 08:34 AM	#2
Mgkwho macrumors 6502a Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cleveland (Home) Chicago (School)	So still nothing we can gain from this build about the 'top secret' features, right? Or is it too early to tell... That long list still makes it sound like Leopard is a fair ways away . -=\|Mgkwho __________________ MacBook Pro 17"

Mar 2, 2007, 08:57 AM	#5
cwedl macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: London, United Kingdom	Still loads of known issues, hoping these would have been fixed. __________________ iMac 24", TV, iPhone 3G 8Gb, Mobile Me, 120Gb iPod Classic, 3rd Gen iPod Shuffle, Time Capsule, Airport Express (N).

Mar 2, 2007, 09:09 AM	#6
hob macrumors 68000 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London, UK	I'm just getting bored of 10.4 !! C'monn... spring is here! The days are getting longer! __________________ see robmac.net for my work

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Mar 2, 2007, 10:09 AM	#10
cshehadi macrumors newbie Join Date: Feb 2007	I hope it's not bad form to post links to other mac sites - but here's a list of "Known Issues": http://loop.worldofapple.com/archive...s-adc-members/ and here's a changelog: http://www.deliciousmacs.com/changes...d-since-9a343/

Mar 2, 2007, 10:17 AM	#12
volvoben macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: nowhere fast	Well, trying to be positive here, I guess the more frequent the seeds, the closer we are to release...still, 'spring' begins in 18 days, so Apple has 3.5 months to release it. With the number of known bugs and the lack of any new features, I'm afraid I'm sticking with a June release prediction. Maybe not shipping until July even. Yuck, but we can hope all this delay means a bugless and productive OS from day 1. On a side note, I'm playing around with virtual desktop programs now to soothe my need for spaces. they work well, but they're certainly not as slick or well implemented as spaces looks to be... __________________ abvd photo

Mar 2, 2007, 10:18 AM	#15
longofest Demi-God (Editor) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Falls Church, VA	No way Leopard is going to be released this month.

Mar 2, 2007, 10:22 AM	#17
Donnacha macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2006	Leopard is due in "Spring", right? Here in the UK, I think Spring is considered to be the whole months of March, April and May but I remember reading once that it's different in some countries who base their seasons on the equinox etc rather than whole calendar months. When does Spring begin for Americans?

Mar 2, 2007, 10:39 AM	#21
reckless_0001 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada	You know what catches my eye? the "a" at the end of the build number, does that indicate a different version of this build exists?

Mar 2, 2007, 10:41 AM	#22
Donnacha macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2006	Thanks guys. That's a pity, I guess that means longofest is right and we almost certainly won't see it this month. Good to hear, though, that Europe is ahead on something other than mobile phones.

Mar 2, 2007, 10:49 AM	#23
jonharris200 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London, UK	So glad I went and ordered my MacBook anyway. Sounds like Leopard won't arrive for a few months yet. __________________ For more info, please visit the 500 thread. Alternatively, try Page 3. But whatever you do, live different.

Mar 2, 2007, 10:52 AM	#24
Rocketman macrumors 68020 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Claremont, CA	I am looking forward to 10.4.9 more than 10.5.0. I want stability over features. When 10.5.1 or 10.5.2 comes out I will get excited and buy new hardware with it or which can update to it. I got tired of being the bleeding edge guy for my primary machines some years ago. It gets old to have unexplained problems that you can avoid by waiting a month. When you are the guy who waits you get the added entertainment of watching other people going through "Jerry Springer" moments on their primary or only machines Rocketman

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