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Old Mar 12, 2007, 10:37 PM   #1
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Mac OS X 10.4.9 Build 8P135 (PPC) and 8P2137 (Intel) Seeded



Apple has released another Mac OS X 10.4.9 seed to developers last night. Apple has had a number of developer seeds for the 10.4.9 build over the past few months, with users expecting the final update to be released any day.

This release lists only one known issue: "After installing the reversioner and this update, AirPort Extreme Update 2007-002 may show up in Software Updates again"
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Old Mar 12, 2007, 11:41 PM   #2
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I completely ignored the build number in the title and my heart skipped a beat for a second there. MacPro updates tomorrow I can feel it.
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Old Mar 12, 2007, 11:45 PM   #4
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 12:12 AM   #5
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What are the chances of 10.4.9 being released to us tomorrow if they just seeded another version to developers, 2 days ago?
On the positive side, if it does come, bring it on!
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 12:18 AM   #6
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Think about it....Apple has enough stuff to release something every other week, not including software besides Leopard...until WWDC

MacPro tomorrow? AppleTV finally? 10.4.9 soon?

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Old Mar 13, 2007, 12:42 AM   #7
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Would a new Mac Pro, or any other new machines, require an update to the OS for them to run ?

Considering the slip-up of the 8-core Mac Pro, it seems more than likely that it'll ship with 10.4.9 at this stage. Hopefully the Mac Pro wont be the only thing undergoing an update tomorrow.
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 03:35 AM   #8
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Hi,
I'm saying this already a few months now.
10.4.9 will be released just before, during or just after the release from Leopard. There are a lot of reasons for that.
Like for instance iChat. Both Tiger and Leopard need to be compatible with each other. Even when it's technical possible that Apple should release 10.4.9 right now, they are risking that there will be problems. Leopard needs to be backwards compatible with some frameworks and the kernel from Tiger.
So they want to do this right. Releasing 10.4.9 weeks/months before 10.5 is very risky for Apple.
The risk is that they need to update 10.5 within weeks after it's release (10.5.1). It's that or they need to cross the psychological border and make a new update for Tiger (10.4.10), which is unlikely.
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 03:39 AM   #9
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 05:18 AM   #10
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The risk is that they need to update 10.5 within weeks after it's release (10.5.1). It's that or they need to cross the psychological border and make a new update for Tiger (10.4.10), which is unlikely.

Why do tou think it would be 10.4.10 IF they have to i think they would go to a nother digit 10.4.9.1, 10.4.9.2, etc
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i hope it gets released today! with some hardware as well!
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 09:27 AM   #12
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Versioning Control System

People, please STOP equating version numbers to decimal numbers !!!
How many times has this been covered in these threads? Go to your Apple menu and select "About this Mac". Select "More Info". Go to the "Software" section and click on "Applications". You will get a list of all applications on your computer along with their version numbers. Here is a sample of some off of my system:

Firefox 2.0.0.1
Opera 9.10.3588
Adobe Update Manager 2.1.7.31
Contribute 3.0.0.2284
Dreamweaver 8.0.0.2734
Extension Manager 1.7.245
Fireworks 8.0.0.777
Poser 7.0.1.97
VNCDimenion 0.7.10
Whatsize 10.3.91
WMV Player 2.1.1.65

Lookie, Opera's main version is 9.10 (oh no, it is not 10.0!!!, it is not 9.9.1!!! it is actually a TEN, imagine that).

See? The numbers go beyond x.9 to x.10 to x.97 to x.whatever. It is a Versioning Control System, not a decimal system!!! Why is this so difficult to grasp?
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 10:20 AM   #13
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People, please STOP equating version numbers to decimal numbers !!!
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Lookie, Opera's main version is 9.10 (oh no, it is not 10.0!!!, it is not 9.9.1!!! it is actually a TEN, imagine that).

See? The numbers go beyond x.9 to x.10 to x.97 to x.whatever. It is a Versioning Control System, not a decimal system!!! Why is this so difficult to grasp?
I'm so glad your head exploded so that mine didn't have to. You'd think that the presence of a second decimal point would indicate that it isn't the same as a number, but that clearly isn't the case.

And to be fair, most non-developers don't know the ins and outs of version numbering, except those who spent some time with Linux. It doesn't really irk me except when the person also makes extravagant claims about What Apple Will Be Doing and Why and Also Why Your Idea Is Wrong, Trust Me, I'm Smart.
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 10:40 AM   #14
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People, please STOP equating version numbers to decimal numbers !!!
Tomorrow someone else will come up with this. It seems impossible to get a lot of people to disassociate the period from the decimal point.
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well, if there was only one issue with the recent Airport extreme update, then 10.4.9 has to be close to release.
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well, if there was only one issue with the recent Airport extreme update, then 10.4.9 has to be close to release.
Not only that, but the issue only affects testers who've installed previous seeds and have to use the reversioner tool to prepare their system to install the next seed.

So, for all intents and purposes, there are no known issues which would affect the installaton of the update for regular users.

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Why the *&%^ is it an issue?! I will never understand what the big deal is about whether there will be a .10 or not. With a brand new "Will Leopard Come out at the end of insert month here!" thread, every month that Leopard doesn't come out, 10.4.10 to infinity doesn't seem like a good indication of how long we'd have to wait anyway.

*Sigh* I guess it gives us something to talk about...
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I'm starting to hope that we get another major update after 10.4.9 just so we can bury this hatchet for good.
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 04:04 PM   #19
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I'm starting to hope that we get another major update after 10.4.9 just so we can bury this hatchet for good.
Or Steve announcing that there will not be a 10.x.10...
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Well that woasn't current for too long.
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Hi,
I'm saying this already a few months now.
10.4.9 will be released just before, during or just after the release from Leopard. There are a lot of reasons for that.
Like for instance iChat. Both Tiger and Leopard need to be compatible with each other. Even when it's technical possible that Apple should release 10.4.9 right now, they are risking that there will be problems. Leopard needs to be backwards compatible with some frameworks and the kernel from Tiger.
So they want to do this right. Releasing 10.4.9 weeks/months before 10.5 is very risky for Apple.
The risk is that they need to update 10.5 within weeks after it's release (10.5.1). It's that or they need to cross the psychological border and make a new update for Tiger (10.4.10), which is unlikely.
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well, we're one more step closer to Leopard
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Guess not
Or 10.5 will be announced shortly
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