Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Delayed until October?

MacRumors · Mar 23, 2007, 06:27 AM

Digitimes claims that Leopard may be delayed until October. Why? To include Vista support:

Quote:

The sources pointed out that the launch delay is not due to software design problems with Leopard but instead is attributed to Apple's plan to have its new OS support Windows Vista through an integrated version of Boot Camp.

It should be noted that Digitimes has been notoriously inaccurate with their reports in the past, but a number of recent Digitimes rumors have been corroborated, if not confirmed. (LED-backlit Laptops, Apple Notebook with Robson Caching)

macjackpro · Mar 23, 2007, 06:34 AM

Compatibility with Vista? Vista isn't even compatible with Vista.

081440 · Mar 23, 2007, 06:36 AM

No Way!!! ......well I certainly hope not

I would see that kind of support coming in the form of a software update instead of delaying the whole OS for so long.

BenRoethig · Mar 23, 2007, 06:36 AM

I hope to god their wrong, but the way MWSF was completely devoid of any Leopard update, especially any kind of announcements concerning the "secret features", I had my suspicion that it was way behind schedule. Here's the really unfortunate part, not only is the supposed delay caused by bootcamp support for vista, it gives Microsoft talking points by the fact that it is both late and possibly released after Vista's SP1 service pack.

mclihah2 · Mar 23, 2007, 06:48 AM

No Way. Phooey

This has got to be one of these real leaks, from inside Apple, but leaked to send us all off track. (Kinda like Kevin .. from Digg announcing the 2-battery iPhone)

Quite simply, why on Earth would Apple delay their OS, so that it can have compatibility with a rival OS, that was already notoriously late?

It's a red herring.

It's hokum.

I imagine that the person that originated this bull, thought that it would be funny to suggest that Leopard is going to be late, to gain compatibility with Vista...which was very late.. Queue the inevitable conclusion....

My personal prediction is that it will be ready when it's ready. The day after it gets the go ahead, Apple will announce a special event for the following Tuesday.

mrkgoo · Mar 23, 2007, 06:49 AM

I don't mind the OS being delayed (gives me more time to save up for it!), but it's ironic after all of Steve's posturing over how Vista was coming out so late...

CavemanUK · Mar 23, 2007, 06:51 AM

Considering I set up vista on my colleagues macbook with minimal problems, this sounds like BS. We've even got it running more complex things like vpn, remote desktop, active directory and offline files. The only problem we encountered was that we had to install the drivers manually.

Im fairly certain that all thats required for vista support is a tweak and re-compile of the drivers setup.exe

...and this was on the readily available beta of bootcamp.

BigPrince · 07:00 AM

OH MY GOD!!!!

*RUNS**SHOUTS*THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLLING *endshout**

*Dries tears*

No way, I think it might be LATE spring, but I think that by June we will sure be worthy of Leopard.

*me hopes*

EDIT THIS IS FALSE FALSE FALSE

HOW can we have WWDC when EVERYTHING is LEOPARD BASED?

lets wasteland this and forget it ever happened.

centauratlas · Mar 23, 2007, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclihah2

No Way. Phooey

I agree. There is no way they would delay it for that. If anything it would be an upgrade at that time (which I don't believe).

phineas · Mar 23, 2007, 07:02 AM

Seeing how I just came over from the "DARK SIDE" last October, I am numb to when updates and new versions come out. Heck even after they came out there were service packs almost immediately.

Let them take longer if they need it. I myself am in no hurry

BigPrince · Mar 23, 2007, 07:04 AM

Just in case it doesn't get seen in my previous post clearly enough:

HOW can we have WWDC when EVERYTHING is LEOPARD BASED?

phineas · Mar 23, 2007, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPrince

Just in case it doesn't get seen in my previous post clearly enough:

HOW can we have WWDC when EVERYTHING is LEOPARD BASED?

Good point, I just read that the other day at work, EVERYTHING is Leopard BASED.

zv470 · Mar 23, 2007, 07:18 AM

I'm happy to wait as long as it takes... Tiger will keep me happy.

BigPrince · Mar 23, 2007, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zv470

I'm happy to wait as long as it takes... Tiger will keep me happy.

Tiger keeps us happy as well, just we are excited for Leopard.

Jarcrew · Mar 23, 2007, 07:27 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if Leopard wound up being pushed back, but it certainly won't be to entertain Vista.

LoganT · Mar 23, 2007, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zv470

I'm happy to wait as long as it takes... Tiger will keep me happy.

AKA I don't have any money.

iMikeT · Mar 23, 2007, 07:33 AM

Is this an early April Fool's Day joke?

displaced · Mar 23, 2007, 07:46 AM

This rumour just doesn't pass any sanity-checks...

As already noted - what's WWDC going to be about without Leopard on the shelves?

Also, the idea of a Vista-compatible 'integrated' Boot Camp holding up the release doesn't make sense for many reasons, but here's what I see as the most compelling:

The functionality Apple would implement is the 'integrated Boot Camp' bit, not the 'vista-compatible' bit. There's nothing inherent in the Apple-developed part of Boot Camp that needs to be Vista specific. The mechanism of booting an OS is agnostic to the OS you'll be booting. Note that Boot Camp happily boots Vista, XP, Ubuntu and many other Linux distributions. The only OS-specific part is the driver bundle which Boot Camp includes. 90% of the hardware in the Intel Macs is standardised, with driver support already available from each component's respective manufacturer. The other 10% (backlit keyboard, SMC, nvram etc) would be all Apple would need to code drivers for.

Load of nonsense.

gregorsamsa · Mar 23, 2007, 08:01 AM

My initial reaction is to dismiss this as ridiculous. However, if this turns out to be true...it'll be a major disappointment for many.

Xyl · Mar 23, 2007, 08:17 AM

NEWS JUST IN!

Leopard delayed till January 2008!

chicagdan · Mar 23, 2007, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarcrew

I wouldn't be surprised if Leopard wound up being pushed back, but it certainly won't be to entertain Vista.

Agree completely ... besides, you CAN use Boot Camp to install Vista now, it just takes a little work to get the drivers installed. If someone like me can do it, I doubt that it's a huge technological challenge for Apple to alter boot camp to suit Vista ... I always assumed that they were purposefully holding back on Vista support to send a message ... don't install Vista, it sucks.

sconnor99 · Mar 23, 2007, 08:20 AM

Not true at all, BIG announcements on Final Cut at NAB in April, expect to hear something about Leopard around the same time.

bdj21ya · Mar 23, 2007, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicagdan

Agree completely ... besides, you CAN use Boot Camp to install Vista now, it just takes a little work to get the drivers installed. If someone like me can do it, I doubt that it's a huge technological challenge for Apple to alter boot camp to suit Vista ... I always assumed that they were purposefully holding back on Vista support to send a message ... don't install Vista, it sucks.

I agree. This rumor defies logic. Drivers should not be that hard to write given this much time. This rumor is just playing on a lack of knowledge about what Boot Camp is. Someone probably just shorted Apple stock and wants to cash in. Wait..scratch that, given the poor quality of this rumor, the creator(s) probably don't even know about shorting yet. They are just hoping to buy AFTER it falls (not that I think it will, since the street doesn't respond to digitimes rumors much).

Skrilla™ · 11:32 AM

I call BS too

lancestraz · Mar 23, 2007, 08:30 AM

Look vista up in the dictionary...

vista |vist-a|
verb [ trans. ]
make (someone or something) late or slow : the train was delayed. • [ intrans. ] be late or slow; loiter : time being of the essence, they delayed no longer. • postpone or defer (an action) : he may decide to delay the next cut in interest rates.

Mar 23, 2007, 06:34 AM	#2
macjackpro macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2006	Lol Compatibility with Vista? Vista isn't even compatible with Vista.

Mar 23, 2007, 06:36 AM	#3
081440 macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Jersey	No Way!!! ......well I certainly hope not I would see that kind of support coming in the form of a software update instead of delaying the whole OS for so long. __________________ Go on complain about whatever Apple is/isn't doing. Now think about life with out Apple........

Mar 23, 2007, 06:36 AM	#4
BenRoethig macrumors 68030 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dubuque, Iowa	I hope to god their wrong, but the way MWSF was completely devoid of any Leopard update, especially any kind of announcements concerning the "secret features", I had my suspicion that it was way behind schedule. Here's the really unfortunate part, not only is the supposed delay caused by bootcamp support for vista, it gives Microsoft talking points by the fact that it is both late and possibly released after Vista's SP1 service pack. __________________ When did Think Different become Conform Always?

Mar 23, 2007, 06:53 AM	#8
BigPrince macrumors 68000 Join Date: Dec 2006	OH MY GOD!!!! RUNSSHOUTSTHE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLLING endshout* Dries tears No way, I think it might be LATE spring, but I think that by June we will sure be worthy of Leopard. me hopes EDIT THIS IS FALSE FALSE FALSE HOW can we have WWDC when EVERYTHING is LEOPARD BASED? lets wasteland this and forget it ever happened. Last edited by BigPrince : Mar 23, 2007 at 07:00 AM.

Mar 23, 2007, 07:27 AM	#15
Jarcrew macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cardiff, Wales	I wouldn't be surprised if Leopard wound up being pushed back, but it certainly won't be to entertain Vista. __________________ My eyes! The goggles do nothing!

Mar 23, 2007, 06:48 AM	#5
mclihah2 macrumors newbie Join Date: Sep 2006	No Way. Phooey This has got to be one of these real leaks, from inside Apple, but leaked to send us all off track. (Kinda like Kevin .. from Digg announcing the 2-battery iPhone) Quite simply, why on Earth would Apple delay their OS, so that it can have compatibility with a rival OS, that was already notoriously late? It's a red herring. It's hokum. I imagine that the person that originated this bull, thought that it would be funny to suggest that Leopard is going to be late, to gain compatibility with Vista...which was very late.. Queue the inevitable conclusion.... My personal prediction is that it will be ready when it's ready. The day after it gets the go ahead, Apple will announce a special event for the following Tuesday.

Mar 23, 2007, 06:49 AM	#6
mrkgoo macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2005	I don't mind the OS being delayed (gives me more time to save up for it!), but it's ironic after all of Steve's posturing over how Vista was coming out so late...

Mar 23, 2007, 06:51 AM	#7
CavemanUK macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rhyl, North Wales	Considering I set up vista on my colleagues macbook with minimal problems, this sounds like BS. We've even got it running more complex things like vpn, remote desktop, active directory and offline files. The only problem we encountered was that we had to install the drivers manually. Im fairly certain that all thats required for vista support is a tweak and re-compile of the drivers setup.exe ...and this was on the readily available beta of bootcamp.

Mar 23, 2007, 07:02 AM	#10
phineas macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South of the Border I-95	Seeing how I just came over from the "DARK SIDE" last October, I am numb to when updates and new versions come out. Heck even after they came out there were service packs almost immediately. Let them take longer if they need it. I myself am in no hurry

Mar 23, 2007, 07:04 AM	#11
BigPrince macrumors 68000 Join Date: Dec 2006	Just in case it doesn't get seen in my previous post clearly enough: HOW can we have WWDC when EVERYTHING is LEOPARD BASED?

Mar 23, 2007, 07:18 AM	#13
zv470 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New Zealand	I'm happy to wait as long as it takes... Tiger will keep me happy.

Mar 23, 2007, 07:33 AM	#17
iMikeT macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: California	Is this an early April Fool's Day joke?

Mar 23, 2007, 07:46 AM	#18
displaced macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: ORP-ING-TRONNNNNN, UK	This rumour just doesn't pass any sanity-checks... As already noted - what's WWDC going to be about without Leopard on the shelves? Also, the idea of a Vista-compatible 'integrated' Boot Camp holding up the release doesn't make sense for many reasons, but here's what I see as the most compelling: The functionality Apple would implement is the 'integrated Boot Camp' bit, not the 'vista-compatible' bit. There's nothing inherent in the Apple-developed part of Boot Camp that needs to be Vista specific. The mechanism of booting an OS is agnostic to the OS you'll be booting. Note that Boot Camp happily boots Vista, XP, Ubuntu and many other Linux distributions. The only OS-specific part is the driver bundle which Boot Camp includes. 90% of the hardware in the Intel Macs is standardised, with driver support already available from each component's respective manufacturer. The other 10% (backlit keyboard, SMC, nvram etc) would be all Apple would need to code drivers for. Load of nonsense. __________________ CONGRATURATION! YOU SUCCESS! A WINNER IS YOU! BUT OUR GIRAFFE IS IN ANOTHER CASTLE!

Mar 23, 2007, 08:01 AM	#19
gregorsamsa macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: (metamorphosing near) Hell's Ditch, The 51st State.	My initial reaction is to dismiss this as ridiculous. However, if this turns out to be true...it'll be a major disappointment for many.

Mar 23, 2007, 08:17 AM	#20
Xyl macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2006	NEWS JUST IN! Leopard delayed till January 2008!

Mar 23, 2007, 08:20 AM	#22
sconnor99 macrumors member Join Date: Dec 2005	Not true at all, BIG announcements on Final Cut at NAB in April, expect to hear something about Leopard around the same time.

Mar 23, 2007, 08:28 AM	#24
Skrilla™ macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston	I call BS too Last edited by Doctor Q : Mar 23, 2007 at 11:32 AM. Reason: removedquote of deleted post

Mar 23, 2007, 08:30 AM	#25
lancestraz macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: location, location…	Look vista up in the dictionary... vista \|vist-a\| verb [ trans. ] make (someone or something) late or slow : the train was delayed. • [ intrans. ] be late or slow; loiter : time being of the essence, they delayed no longer. • postpone or defer (an action) : he may decide to delay the next cut in interest rates.

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