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crazycat · Mar 30, 2007, 05:19 PM

You can never, ever, ever ever ever win in argument vs your girlfriend. Its a fact, there is no possible way, i have tried for years and i can there is no possible way to win. It does not matter what the subject is about, you will never win.

For example, if you are blind and your girlfriend thought you looked at the hot girl sitting on the other side of the restaurant then you looked, its a fact.

Here how it went:

GF = Girlfriend, Me = Me.

*watching a tv show kinda like american idol when a cute girl started to sing*
GF - Do you think she is cute?
Me - Do you really want me to tell you if she is cute?
GF - Yes!
Me - Yes, i think she is cute.

*10 mins of explaining why she is not cute*

Me - Okay she is not cute.

*2 hours later we are watching desperate house wives*

GF - Who do you think is the cutest one?
Me - Gabe (iva longoria)

*20 mins of explaining how i dont know what cute is and why Iva is not cute*

*10 mins ago*

GF- Do you think she is cute?
*a not so attractive female person she is talking about*
Me- Not really
*5 mins of talking explaning to me why she is cute*
Me - Your right, she is cute! what was i thinking before.

A pattern emerges here, cute girls are not cute and the not cute ones are, and most importantly she is always right, you as a male can never win.

All that being said, i love here to death and cant see myself without her

This is one way i am wrong and she is right in many many many other ways that i wont talk about now. maybe next time. Feel free to share your experience.

TheDance511 · Mar 30, 2007, 05:24 PM

well there is 1 way.....u gotta let em KNO

Queso · Mar 30, 2007, 05:28 PM

Next time she tries that nonsense, distract her with something unexpectedly deep and philosophical like "Do you think we reincarnate after death or just cease to exist?". Have one of these questions ready every time she starts and she'll soon think that the differences between her and your definitions of cute really don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Elixer · Mar 30, 2007, 05:33 PM

Just get used to the fact they always think they are right. Even when you confront them with fact you are always going to be wrong.

miloblithe · Mar 30, 2007, 05:36 PM

You could try complementing her more often, helping her work through her own insecurities. Or get a new girlfriend who's not into head games.

They're not all like that. This is far from universal for all women.

crazycat · Mar 30, 2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by miloblithe

Or get a new girlfriend who's not into head games.

Sorry to have to tell you,

Thomas Veil · Mar 30, 2007, 06:26 PM

milo pegged it: that's insecurity talking. And I've never understood that in women. And I think most of us guys like women who are confident and secure in themselves, not ones who are always neurotically trying to assess other people's beauty standards and, by inference, whether they measure up.

someguy · Mar 30, 2007, 06:34 PM

I'd ditch her and find someone you can have a relationship with and be able to enjoy the freedom to say what you feel around her.

I was in a relationship for a couple years once where what you described happened on a far-too-regular basis. In my current relationship, I am free to comment on celebrities, girls I see on TV, or even her friends. She trusts me and I trust her, so why should we pretend that just because we are with each other we are somehow suddenly unable to recognize other people's physical beauty?

FrankBlack · Mar 30, 2007, 06:42 PM

Is this why so many of my married friends keep telling me how smart I am for remaining single?

furious · Mar 30, 2007, 06:47 PM

Sounds like she has cheated on you. Sorry to say but the same thing happened to me. This girl was great then over time what you described started to happen. Found out months later that she had cheated on me.

someguy · Mar 30, 2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by furious

Sounds like she has cheated on you. Sorry to say but the same thing happened to me. This girl was great then over time what you described started to happen. Found out months later that she had cheated on me.

Wouldn't surprise me. My ex cheated on me.

Relationships with an overly jealous partner almost never last, and if they do, you'll wish they hadn't.

miloblithe · Mar 30, 2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankBlack

Is this why so many of my married friends keep telling me how smart I am for remaining single?

Nope. Women are not harpies. They are just people. Treat them like people, and you'll get a whole lot farther.

Macky-Mac · Mar 30, 2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycat

GF - Do you think she is cute?
Me - Oh gee! I don't know. What do you think Honey?"

maybe try it that way

jsw · Mar 30, 2007, 07:32 PM

So, anyway, is your girlfriend cute?

Abstract · Mar 30, 2007, 07:50 PM

Here's how my convo with her would have gone:

GF: Do you think she's cute?
Me: Yes, definitely.

*10 minute explanation as to why she's NOT cute at all*

GF: Do you think this girl is cute?
Me: Yes, she's cute. She looks cute in the same way you're cute.

*no explanation as to why she isn't cute, because if the girl on TV isn't cute, then she probably isn't cute either, from what you said*

macmama · Mar 30, 2007, 09:46 PM

How about a little "Well I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. We're all entitled to our own opinions" and that's it?

My husband and I, for the record, will forever disagree on whether or not Julia Roberts is beautiful. I think she's gorgeous. He thinks she has a caricature of a normal human face.

We avoid arguing about it, FWIW.

mad jew · Mar 30, 2007, 09:47 PM

Date a mute with no arms and legs.

Sun Baked · Mar 30, 2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad jew

Date a mute with no arms and legs.

Sucks if you would like to enjoy an occasional handjob, footjob, or just plain are a leg man.

mad jew · Mar 30, 2007, 09:52 PM

We're Mac users. We know how to be innovative.

Swarmlord · Mar 30, 2007, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miloblithe

You could try complementing her more often, helping her work through her own insecurities. Or get a new girlfriend who's not into head games.

They're not all like that. This is far from universal for all women.

Gotta agree. She's got some insecurity issues. Definitely not the norm for all women.

shecky · Mar 30, 2007, 09:58 PM

my answer is usually "she is almost as cute as you are"

to which my GF giggles and then says after a minute "yeah, she is really cute. its OK to admit it." To which i usually say "yeah, she is a fine piece of tenderoni, but i am not in love with her, i am in love with you."

then, we have us some sex.

Sun Baked · Mar 30, 2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mad jew

We're Mac users. We know how to be innovative.

Innovation like that may lead to shortcomings that even Viagra cannot solve after an argument -- as she bites down and does her best to win the argument.

devilot · Mar 30, 2007, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shecky

...i usually say "yeah, she is a fine piece of tenderoni, but i am not in love with her, i am in love with you."

I do think that that is the key.

I think I'm not the 100% stereotypical woman (even though I am insecure and whatever else), but with my ex, I think I might have been more into ogling hot women than he.

And no, it wasn't to bash or hate on them, I was genuinely enjoying myself just seeing them and/or being attracted to them. Which isn't to say there weren't times when I felt insecure, that he might have been more interested in some other woman/-men, but he'd remind me the he liked me and was with me. And it was up to me to believe that. I do think that that's the important part.

SMM · Mar 30, 2007, 11:01 PM

I came to the realization long ago, men and women cannot understand each other at any level which involves subjective values. It is not such a difficult thing to accept, any can actually be appreciated. I love the way women see things, even if I cannot share it.

Mammoth · Mar 30, 2007, 11:25 PM

After multiple tests, we are forced to conclude: Girls are weird.

Mar 30, 2007, 05:19 PM	#1
crazycat macrumors 65816 Join Date: Dec 2005	You can never, ever, ever ever ever win in You can never, ever, ever ever ever win in argument vs your girlfriend. Its a fact, there is no possible way, i have tried for years and i can there is no possible way to win. It does not matter what the subject is about, you will never win. For example, if you are blind and your girlfriend thought you looked at the hot girl sitting on the other side of the restaurant then you looked, its a fact. Here how it went: GF = Girlfriend, Me = Me. watching a tv show kinda like american idol when a cute girl started to sing GF - Do you think she is cute? Me - Do you really want me to tell you if she is cute? GF - Yes! Me - Yes, i think she is cute. 10 mins of explaining why she is not cute Me - Okay she is not cute. 2 hours later we are watching desperate house wives GF - Who do you think is the cutest one? Me - Gabe (iva longoria) 20 mins of explaining how i dont know what cute is and why Iva is not cute 10 mins ago GF- Do you think she is cute? a not so attractive female person she is talking about Me- Not really 5 mins of talking explaning to me why she is cute Me - Your right, she is cute! what was i thinking before. A pattern emerges here, cute girls are not cute and the not cute ones are, and most importantly she is always right, you as a male can never win. All that being said, i love here to death and cant see myself without her This is one way i am wrong and she is right in many many many other ways that i wont talk about now. maybe next time. Feel free to share your experience. __________________ "I don't take kindly to insults" "Funny, with a face like yours, I'd have thought you'd be used to it by now."
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Mar 30, 2007, 05:33 PM	#4
Elixer macrumors regular Join Date: Aug 2006	Just get used to the fact they always think they are right. Even when you confront them with fact you are always going to be wrong. __________________ Black Macbook \| 120GB \| 2GB Ram (owc) iPods \| 2GB Nano Black \| 30GB G5 Black Not just your ordinary cat blog!
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Mar 30, 2007, 06:26 PM	#7
Thomas Veil macrumors 68020 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reality	milo pegged it: that's insecurity talking. And I've never understood that in women. And I think most of us guys like women who are confident and secure in themselves, not ones who are always neurotically trying to assess other people's beauty standards and, by inference, whether they measure up. __________________ This is the beginning of a serious conversation. We won't be taking questions today. -- Then-NRA President David Keene
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someguy macrumors 68020 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Still here.	I'd ditch her and find someone you can have a relationship with and be able to enjoy the freedom to say what you feel around her. I was in a relationship for a couple years once where what you described happened on a far-too-regular basis. In my current relationship, I am free to comment on celebrities, girls I see on TV, or even her friends. She trusts me and I trust her, so why should we pretend that just because we are with each other we are somehow suddenly unable to recognize other people's physical beauty? __________________ 
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Mar 30, 2007, 05:28 PM	#3
Queso macrumors 603 Join Date: Mar 2006	Next time she tries that nonsense, distract her with something unexpectedly deep and philosophical like "Do you think we reincarnate after death or just cease to exist?". Have one of these questions ready every time she starts and she'll soon think that the differences between her and your definitions of cute really don't matter in the grand scheme of things.
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miloblithe macrumors 68020 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington, DC	You could try complementing her more often, helping her work through her own insecurities. Or get a new girlfriend who's not into head games. They're not all like that. This is far from universal for all women.
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Mar 30, 2007, 06:47 PM	#10
furious macrumors 65816 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia	Sounds like she has cheated on you. Sorry to say but the same thing happened to me. This girl was great then over time what you described started to happen. Found out months later that she had cheated on me. __________________ iPad-Apples range of mp3 playing feminine hygiene products?
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Mar 30, 2007, 07:32 PM	#14
jsw Demi-God (Moderator emeritus) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Andover, MA	So, anyway, is your girlfriend cute? __________________ You'll be the one moaning for me to give you some. - THC(taken out of context)
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Mar 30, 2007, 07:50 PM	#15
Abstract macrumors G3 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location Location	Here's how my convo with her would have gone: GF: Do you think she's cute? Me: Yes, definitely. 10 minute explanation as to why she's NOT cute at all GF: Do you think this girl is cute? Me: Yes, she's cute. She looks cute in the same way you're cute. no explanation as to why she isn't cute, because if the girl on TV isn't cute, then she probably isn't cute either, from what you said __________________ "Hard? It's supposed to be hard. Hard is what makes it great!" - Tom Hanks.
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Mar 30, 2007, 09:46 PM	#16
macmama macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Jersey	How about a little "Well I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. We're all entitled to our own opinions" and that's it? My husband and I, for the record, will forever disagree on whether or not Julia Roberts is beautiful. I think she's gorgeous. He thinks she has a caricature of a normal human face. We avoid arguing about it, FWIW.
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Mar 30, 2007, 09:47 PM	#17
mad jew Demi-God (Moderator emeritus) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Adelaide, Australia	Date a mute with no arms and legs. __________________ Some things are better mad...
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mad jew Demi-God (Moderator emeritus) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Adelaide, Australia	We're Mac users. We know how to be innovative. __________________ Some things are better mad...
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Mar 30, 2007, 09:58 PM	#21
shecky Guest Join Date: May 2003 Location: Obviously you're not a golfer.	my answer is usually "she is almost as cute as you are" to which my GF giggles and then says after a minute "yeah, she is really cute. its OK to admit it." To which i usually say "yeah, she is a fine piece of tenderoni, but i am not in love with her, i am in love with you." then, we have us some sex.
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Mar 30, 2007, 11:01 PM	#24
SMM macrumors 65816 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tiger Mountain - WA State	I came to the realization long ago, men and women cannot understand each other at any level which involves subjective values. It is not such a difficult thing to accept, any can actually be appreciated. I love the way women see things, even if I cannot share it. __________________ Eagles may soar in the clouds, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines. - Jason Hutchison and John Benfield
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Mar 30, 2007, 11:25 PM	#25
Mammoth macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canada	After multiple tests, we are forced to conclude: Girls are weird. __________________ 30GB 5G White iPod Engraved (Full)\| Shure E2c Rio Karma \| 20GB \| Undead iMac 1.83Ghz \| 250GB HD
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