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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:15 PM   #1
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Apple Patent Application For Button-less Mouse Design



A patent application by Apple, released today, indicates that the company is continuing to explore new ways for users to command their Macs.

Patent Application number 20070080945 details a mouse having a button-less pan and scroll switch. Apple details that instead of using a traditional scroll wheel (or scroll ball in the case of the Mighty Mouse), the mouse would sense different hand positions and act in different ways according to how it is being held.

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In one embodiment, the first mode of operation of the mouse may be a cursor control mode and the first operations on the display screen may be cursor movements on the display screen. Additionally, the second mode of operation of the mouse may be a pan and/or scroll control mode and the second operations on the display screen may be scrolling and/or panning movements on the display screen.
Patent applications can provide interesting insight into what concepts or technologies Apple is working on in their labs, however readers are reminded that only a subset of these applications will make it into final shipping products.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:18 PM   #2
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There is a more detailed report on this at Appleinsider with images here:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...h_housing.html
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:19 PM   #3
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Possible replacement for scroll ball?
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:21 PM   #4
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I read somewhere they are working on a more 3D interface? So presumably they need a whole new mouse to better interact with the whole computer.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:21 PM   #5
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i don't know why Apple keeps wasting time and resources on a mouse that doesn't need much invention. Mouse is fine as the way it is. Make mouse that has same conventional multi button that Logitech or MS makes.

Apple should be using those resources on perfecting Touchscreen iPods or potential touchscreen Displays.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:22 PM   #6
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Great Idea

This should be a great product. The Mighty Mouse's biggest flaw is it's scroll wheel. It's great being able to scroll sideways and vertically, but the ball is so small that it often gets clogged and needs to be cleaned out.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:22 PM   #7
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I don't really mind the scroll ball, but I think this could definitely be interesting (especially after seeing the patent pics).
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:23 PM   #8
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This mouse has to be super ergonomic for me to consider using something like this. I am prone to getting RSI (repetitve stress injury) so something like this has to be very natural, and fast to use.

Intersting patent application nevertheless. Might be useful for my Photoshop work.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:24 PM   #9
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I dunno, all these button-less thingies are too meta for me.

I think they just make things more confusing...
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:27 PM   #10
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I like the mighty mouse but this seems like it could be a good alternative. It would be good if you could choose where abouts on the mouse certain "buttons" could be placed. This would enable the user to define as many buttons as the suer wants (up to a limit). If only the mighty mouse had 2 more buttons (could've been added by allowing the squeeze pads to operate as single buttons)
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:28 PM   #11
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the biggest problem with the mighty mouse is that it doesn't have distinct buttons, and that the left and right click sometimes get confused. Eliminating buttons entirely seems like it would make such problems even worse.
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There is a more detailed report on this at Appleinsider with images here:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...h_housing.html
AI's summary took a bunch of quotes from the patent description and didn't do much for making it easier for people to understand. You might as well read the patent itself which we linked to in the article.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:30 PM   #13
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It would get rid of that annoying mighty mouse scroll wheel.

And it would give us the cool look of the original apple mouse... I say bring it on.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:31 PM   #14
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A successful button-less mouse would indeed be inventing a better mouse and could be revolutionary if done right.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:31 PM   #15
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the biggest problem with the mighty mouse is that it doesn't have distinct buttons, and that the left and right click sometimes get confused. Eliminating buttons entirely seems like it would make such problems even worse.
I think the problem with people hitting the wrong button on the MM stems from clumsiness. It isn't a problem with mice that have big buttons and nobs, but with the MM, there needs to be more finessing.
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A successful button-less mouse would indeed be inventing a better mouse and could be revolutionary if done right.
Make it wireless and make the batteries recharge through a USB charger and the mouse can still work through the same USB cord while it is charging the dead batteries like the Radtech.us has and we can get along well.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:38 PM   #17
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This is cool. Hope they introduce this into the consumers main stream soon.
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the biggest problem with the mighty mouse is that it doesn't have distinct buttons, and that the left and right click sometimes get confused. Eliminating buttons entirely seems like it would make such problems even worse.
Ireally like the MM and lack of buttons doesn't bother me at all. Scroll ball its another story. Although I consider myself clean person this stupid ball stop to work after like 3 months. I have already like third one and again scrolling action begun to be PITA. If you can eliminate that prroblem I'm all in
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whoever draws Apple's patent illustrations has some SERIOUSLY malformed hands.
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 01:52 PM   #20
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If there's one thing Apple sucks at, it's designing mice. They should just outsource it to Logitech to make an "Apple White" version of a couple of their mice.
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whoever draws Apple's patent illustrations has some SERIOUSLY malformed hands.
I was just about to comment on the same thing!
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Make it wireless and make the batteries recharge through a USB charger and the mouse can still work through the same USB cord while it is charging the dead batteries like the Radtech.us has and we can get along well.
A truly revolutionary mouse would be charged via a mouse pad. There is a lot of research going on, but it's basically a simple application of maxwell's equations.

The concept is to have a mousepad which radiates a small electromagnetic field (which constantly surround you already, so don't think you will get hand cancer). the mouse would have a built in antenna which converts the field to current, thus either charging batts or runs the mouse entirely.
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Shifting hand position is an extra unwelcome step that I doubt will ever ship (with the possible exception of just lifting all clicking-fingers without changing grip), but I'm glad to see Apple keeps coming up with krazy new ideas! Some great ones often float to the top.

(How about a mouse that clicks Cancel when you throw it at a wall?)
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A truly revolutionary mouse would be charged via a mouse pad. There is a lot of research going on, but it's basically a simple application of maxwell's equations.

The concept is to have a mousepad which radiates a small electromagnetic field (which constantly surround you already, so don't think you will get hand cancer). the mouse would have a built in antenna which converts the field to current, thus either charging batts or runs the mouse entirely.
This sounds interesting. Presumably some way off actually making it out into the public market though?
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I think the problem with people hitting the wrong button on the MM stems from clumsiness. It isn't a problem with mice that have big buttons and nobs, but with the MM, there needs to be more finessing.
the problem isn't clumsiness. it's that people don't hold their mice the way apple thinks you should. i'd often have the mouse register right clicks when i simply wanted a click because i wouldn't hold it just right. i wish apple would go back to convential buttons with their mice.
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