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Old Apr 17, 2007, 11:56 AM   #1
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Businessweek cites an analyst with iSuppli that the iPhone may be seeing some minor delays due to ongoing issues. According to Jagdish Rebello, "various iPhone suppliers have been told that the iPhone may not be available until the end of June."
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We're hearing it's mostly an issue with the complexity of the device, and that all the component suppliers are making their deliveries on time
Apple has not specified when in June the iPhone would ship, but some have speculated that the iPhone would arrive near the Worldwide Developer's Conference which starts on June 11th.

Rebello speculates that the delay in Leopard was prompted by an unexpected shift in personnel from Leopard to the iPhone: "It's clear they have found some issues that they need to fix." Another analyst who has tested the phone states that they didn't uncover any problems with it but points out that "Apple wants to get it right the first time."

Meanwhile, Shaw Wu believes that the Leopard delay was due to the "secret" features that have not yet been revealed: "Our analysis indicates that if not for the 'secret' features, the core Leopard operating system would likely have shipped on time,"

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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:00 PM   #2
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this is just great

apple delays leopard and now the iPhone

apple really needs to stick to what they say
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:02 PM   #3
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:02 PM   #4
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this is just great

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1) This is all speculation by generally uninformed analysts.
2) This is also a few analysts starting to pickup on what Apple already stated ... jumping in to make it sound like they know something.
3) Apple stated June for the iPhone way back when and Apple stated a few days ago June for the iPhone... lets wait until June or a statement from Apple on a date change.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:04 PM   #5
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this is just great

apple delays leopard and now the iPhone

apple really needs to stick to what they say
It's hard to do that when you depend on other companies to supply the components.

It's just like when Apple claimed the G5 would be at 3Ghz, but due to IBM's fab problems, they never got to their declared goal.

Don't blame Apple for the shortcomings of other companies.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:04 PM   #6
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This just in:

Due to delays in Leopard, Apple has had to pull engineers from the iPhone, thereby slipping its ship date.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:05 PM   #7
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:05 PM   #8
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They never said ready june 11th, just ready in june. Since they also reconfirmed that in their recent press release I bet they will realease it on time (in June) since i can't wait to get my hands on one, june does still feel like a long time
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:05 PM   #9
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I am so sick of iPhone this and iPhone that....until the thing comes comes out, who cares???
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:07 PM   #10
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Its bad luck for Apple that a few projects seem to have been delayed back to back. I say bad luck because I am sick of reading people saying how Apple has completely betrayed them because of a few delayed products. Get over it. They don't lie on purpose, they try to get the thing done on time and work 23 hours a day when they find out thats not going to happen.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:09 PM   #11
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Apple has not specified when in June the iPhone would ship, but some have speculated that the iPhone would arrive near the Worldwide Developer's Conference which starts on June 11th.
When they announced that Leopard will be delayed, they said that the iPhone is shipping in late June.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:10 PM   #12
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I have no problem in delaying Leopard nor iPhone. Let them all be released when ready.


I prefer the iPhone not being released instead of having the zune released problems.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:11 PM   #13
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"It's clear they have found some issues that they need to fix."

"Clear," is it? Sound like a bit of a strech to me. I'll go with "possible" (No great shock that a new product would have "issues" still unfinished 2 months before release.)


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I am so sick of iPhone this and iPhone that....until the thing comes comes out, who cares???
So people should only care when it comes out... after it already IS out?

One thing I like to do if a product makes me angry is to not spend time reading stories about it Granted, I don't generally get THAT upset about future products...

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Its bad luck for Apple that a few projects seem to have been delayed back to back. I say bad luck because I am sick of reading people saying how Apple has completely betrayed them because of a few delayed products. Get over it. They don't lie on purpose, they try to get the thing done on time and work 23 hours a day when they find out thats not going to happen.
But NO other company EVER has delays of weeks (iPhone--wait Apple never said June 11, rumors did) or months (Leopard) or years (Vista--wait, that's not Apple). Never
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Why does Apple not just hire a few more engineers/developers/QA people? Sounds like they could use them anyway in the long term.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:12 PM   #15
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Where do I have to apply to get to be an analyst? I'm full of wild speculation, unfounded predictions, and I have a general commitment to keeping the word truth as loosely defined as possible.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:12 PM   #16
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this is just great

apple delays leopard and now the iPhone

apple really needs to stick to what they say
yeah i know. i hate delays....
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:12 PM   #17
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Honestly is Shaw Wu ever right lately? where is the touch screen full video iPod?

There's more to be done then just the iPhone it's self. I'm sure apple is still working on the iTunes ring tones deal with the recording companies and other things we don't even know about yet. Not to mention the peripherals that go it with it.

bring out those slick little bluetooth head sets promptly pleease apple.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:14 PM   #18
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*I realize the proper grammar is "Think positively," but I just wanted to riff off Apple's grammatically-(ahem!)interesting slogan.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:15 PM   #19
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C'mon, slu, say it!

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I am so sick of iPhone this and iPhone that....until the thing comes comes out, who cares???
Do your best Jan Brady and scream, "iPhone, iPhone, iPhone!"
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Honestly is Shaw Wu ever right lately? where is the touch screen full video iPod?
It's with the other products Apple would actually sell. Taking a backseat to iPhone.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:18 PM   #21
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Why should anyone be surprised if iPhone is late? A lot of Apple products have been late.

Apple have a lot of dependencies, e.g., suppliers. If they are late shipping components, thats going to affect Apple.

Sometimes its out of Apple hands. Maybe this time its the complexity of the iPhone software and late arrival of 3rd party hardware components.
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Old Apr 17, 2007, 12:19 PM   #22
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See you in 2008. Seriously, release things when they are promised. If Apple would, from the onset, add three months to their 'original' ship estimates and then release things *cough* early, Steve would look like a hero, and the stock would soar. Just a thought.
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this is just great

apple delays leopard and now the iPhone

apple really needs to stick to what they say
And the World has now ended. So far Apple has stuck to what they said. iPhone... June. That's it. Leopard, June.. October. Really, I don't care. My computer, running Tiger, still works just as good as it did yesterday. If you're basing your business or personal computing lifestyle on technology that doesn't exist or isn't available yet, you're doomed to fail.
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The iPhone is a huge bet for Apple, Inc. Accordingly, it would be better to take the time to get it right than it would be to release it with known issues. It has the potential to be another iPod in the impact it could have on Apple, and it is coming out under a LOT more scrutiny--the iPod was nowhere near as anticipated a product.

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Why does Apple not just hire a few more engineers/developers/QA people? Sounds like they could use them anyway in the long term.
That's something Microsoft and others have been criticized for. I do NOT want to see Apple make the same mistake. There's a book on this very mistake:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

Doubling the number of programmers or engineers does NOT halve the time to complete a project--especially when they are dumped in after the fact. Throwing late staff additions at a product can actually reduce quality and make the project even more behind until features have to be cut.

"Assigning more programmers to a project running behind schedule will make it even later, due to the time required for the new programmers to learn about the project, as well as the increased communication overhead."
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