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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:33 PM   #1
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Description:: Apple's soon-to-be-launched iPhone will be irrelevant to business users because it is a "closed device" and does not support Microsoft Office, a senior executive with the software giant said this week.

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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:34 PM   #2
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Wow! M$ are really going all out to talk ******** about Apple at the moment aren't they?

Anyone would think they were worried or something!
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:38 PM   #3
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I agree, at least with the Office support, but i'd be willing o bet that Apple will add .doc support.
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:44 PM   #4
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Description:: Apple's soon-to-be-launched iPhone will be irrelevant to business users because it is a "closed device" and does not support Microsoft Office, a senior executive with the software giant said this week.
That could be a serious problem if Apple had intended the market for the iPhone to be business users.
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:45 PM   #5
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Gee, that's funny. I'm a business user and I'm getting one as soon as humanly possible.

It's Microsoft that's become irrelevant to me.

Arrogant pigs.
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:47 PM   #6
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Gee, that's funny. I'm a business user and I'm getting one as soon as humanly possible.

It's Microsoft that's become irrelevant to me.

Arrogant pigs.
They just seem to be attempting to smear every Apple product in the hope that M$ fanboys will actually believe them.
Talk about throwing your toys out the pram!

I'm so glad I didn't go ahead and get a new mobile phone with an M$ OS.
As you say "Arrogant pigs"
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:50 PM   #7
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If this comment was coming from RIM or somebody else, it would be much more credible. But I agree that iPhone is not a business phone. That world is ruled by RIM and it will stay like that for quite some time. Symbian is also OK, SE P910 is one of the best "business" phones ever.

Windows Mobile is the ultimate piece of ...., what a pity that so many nice phones (in a hardware sense) suffers from that horrible OS.
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:51 PM   #8
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When contacted, an Apple Australia representative said: "I am not interested in commenting."
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:52 PM   #9
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Microsoft shouldn't be one to talk about Office support on mobile devices, seeing as how a third party application (Dataviz' Documents To Go) totally blows away Microsoft's own implementation in Windows Mobile.

I would not be surprised at all to see Dataviz amongst the third party developers that Apple allows into its walled garden.

More pure FUD from Microsoft. They seem to be slinging a lot more of it lately. Think they're scared?
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:55 PM   #10
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Gee, that's funny. I'm a business user and I'm getting one as soon as humanly possible.

It's Microsoft that's become irrelevant to me.

Arrogant pigs.
Why they have to go on and on about how Apple's products will fail is getting more than a little boring, I suppose Apple does the same with the OS to an extent but still...

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Old Apr 19, 2007, 01:57 PM   #11
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Why they have to go on and on about how Apple's products will fail is getting more than a little boring, I suppose Apple does the same with the OS, but still...
But the big difference is Apple actually know what they're talking about and they're right about M$ products!
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:03 PM   #12
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Translation:

"We saw the iPhone and immediately crapped our pants. This thing is gonna kill us."
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:07 PM   #13
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What they are basicly saying is:

"We were first to market as compared to Apple (but not Palm, RIM, Symbian, others), and as compared to Apple's currently unreleased product, we have a better market penetration after almost ONE year in release and a "consistent user interface".

So since they were able to get these statements, as limited as they are, "just in time", I wonder how they will look in say 3-4 months?

Apple adoption rates dominant
Apple Consistent user interface
Apple Works great on all MS-Office files
Apple announces limited but widely popular 3rd party apps

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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:09 PM   #14
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Um, how can a software company, ahem an electronics company, ahem a bloated conglomerate who has no iPhone like device in the pipeline, even have a say?

cough, someones, cough, mad!

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"Hi. We're Microsoft, and we're scared sh**tless."

Why not work with Apple to make it enterprise friendly, instead of bitching? They'd make more money, and they might actually make a good solution. Simply accept that the iPhone will be huge, and corner the market on enterprise apps for it. What's the problem?
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:18 PM   #16
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The inability for the iPhone to use or open Word, PPT, or Excel files is no big deal. Who the heck wants to run those apps on a 4 inch screen? The big kicker is Outlook and the ability to sync with enterprise servers (Exchange servers). This is an enormous drawback and will keep the iPhone out of the enterprise market.

I work at a totally Apple-dominated corporation, and even we're not getting the iPhone because they don't work with Exchange. Sad Apple isn't willing to swallow some pride and admit the world operates, at least for the time being, on MS enterprise software.
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After a long work day, on the way home all I want to do is enter data into my excel spreadsheets.
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:24 PM   #18
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Quick, somebody save this article. Five years from now, when Apple has virtually wiped Windows Mobile from the face of the Earth we can reload this article and thread and laugh like we do with Thread 500.
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:27 PM   #19
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I work at a totally Apple-dominated corporation, and even we're not getting the iPhone because they don't work with Exchange. Sad Apple isn't willing to swallow some pride and admit the world operates, at least for the time being, on MS enterprise software.
From the Keynote I thought it did work with exchange .
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:31 PM   #20
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:33 PM   #21
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I really don't see how it would be a big deal if the iPhone doesn't dominate the business world. Apple products are the fun products that people use when they get out of work. The other smartphones are what people have to use when they are at work. If you wanted to spend the next five minutes doing something you enjoy doing and you are staring at an iPhone next to the smartphone you use for your job, which one are you going to pick up?

If Apple is planning on focusing on making devices we enjoy using in our free time, I think they'll have a larger market to address than the people who need to access their Exchange account and Excel spreadsheets.

Like the iPod, I believe the iPhone can start out as a luxury toy and gradually gain more market share over the next few years. I'd certainly like to have a phone that I enjoy, rather than my RAZR (although part of my problem is Verizon's "you can't do anything with your phone" strategy).

EDIT: Now that I think about it, they are going to miss out on the people who need MS Office on their phones and use one phone for business/personal. However, we don't know how much of that demographic would want to switch phones/carriers and we don't even know if it will be normal for that demographic to have two phones in the future.
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We do love that thread! vvv
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:35 PM   #23
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Like the iPod, I believe the iPhone can start out as a luxury toy and gradually gain more market share over the next few years. I'd certainly like to have a phone that I enjoy, rather than my RAZR (although part of my problem is Verizon's "you can't do anything with your phone" strategy).
Exactly!
Nearly everyone said the iPod was very nice but, but over priced and who would need to carry around 1,000 songs?

Look what happened. I feel the iPhone will follow the same path.
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Quick, somebody save this article. Five years from now, when Apple has virtually wiped Windows Mobile from the face of the Earth we can reload this article and thread and laugh like we do with Thread 500.
Apple doesn't need to do that, Windows Mobile already is (and always has been) irrelevant niche product

The ruling mobile OS is Symbian, Linux having some potential as well.
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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:36 PM   #25
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Wonder how strong the OSX system on iPhone will be?

Just think, it could get to the point that is supports all file formats. It is already supposed to support pdf format and there was a very good comment that who wants to edit an excel file on such a small screen.

However, who wouldn't want someone to email you on your iPhone and you dock with your laptop and sync over the file and work on it and send it back. That would be great! However, memory would get to be a problem, especially if it was a large file. I am not sure, but I don't think the Blackberry's have that capability to they?

Of course, it would take a stronger version of OSX rather than a stripped down version, don't you think?

And I wonder if some of the 'secret' features on Leopard will incorporate some of these features, blurring the operating system (no need for Parallel's desktop!!!) requirements. Will these migrate to the iPhone OSX?
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