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Old Jun 20, 2003, 02:50 PM   #1
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IBM Preps for Apple Announcements

In the wake of the leaked specs, The Mercury News reports on further signs of IBM/Apple announcements on monday:

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IBM has scheduled analyst briefings on the chip to begin after Apple Chairman and Chief Executive Steve Jobs gives his keynote address. A group of IBM engineers has come to Apple's Cupertino headquarters for last-minute preparations. And Apple's close partners say significantly faster Apple machines should arrive before the end of the year.
These hints simply confirm what has been widely expected, and while the question of the PowerMac specs may have been laid to rest (for the non-conspiracy theorists), the questions of shipping time and price remain open.

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Old Jun 20, 2003, 02:52 PM   #2
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Good things to hear, indeed. Guess we'll just have to wait for Monday to come now.
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 02:54 PM   #3
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Wait....

Are we going to see any machines before the end of the summer? Or am I reading this wrong and even FASTER machines (> 2ghz) will be coming at the end of the year?
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 02:57 PM   #4
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Yeah baby!

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Old Jun 20, 2003, 02:58 PM   #5
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 02:58 PM   #6
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YIPPIE!!! I knew this rumor was true!!!
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 02:59 PM   #7
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Or they're panicking....

Either they're there for the Keynote or they're there because Apple is panicking about the hacker who got that picture up last night (joking).

I'm glad we'll be getting some info from IBM about the 970 soon. We haven't heard much since last fall, except for that article from Stokes over at Ars Technica, but that wasn't really from IBM, was it.

Time to go find my credit card...
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:01 PM   #8
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It is going to be one exciting day on Monday. I have lunch at 12 pm Central and there is an Apple store less than 2 miles away... Wonder where I will be?
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:04 PM   #9
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yeah, i'm pretty sure that there's going to be no lunch for me during lunch break on monday... and it might just have to last 2 hours or so...

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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:05 PM   #10
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this will be interesting.... although sad... i just baught a 12" pb... darnit.... o well hope this lasts for a little while :-/
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:06 PM   #11
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PCI-X

Is there anyone who can give a breakdown on what PCI-x is and how it compares to the current PCI slots and some evaluation of the audio optical vs. analog would be good too. Also, how much is 8 Gigs of RAM going to run?

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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:07 PM   #12
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Wait....

Are we going to see any machines before the end of the summer? Or am I reading this wrong and even FASTER machines (> 2ghz) will be coming at the end of the year?
Yeah, I hope they mean >2 Ghz machines. Otherwise it will be a long 6 months.
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:09 PM   #13
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Skip the weekend

For once I would like to skip the weekend and go straight from Friday afternoon to Monday morning. I'm not able to buy a machine any time soon, but this is just so darn exciting!
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Heh I read that is Morning, that is great, they were a bit general and focused on how the current powermac offerings are less than grand. The Merc will sometimes jump the gun however so i don't think this is 100 percent certification, but it's still good news
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:16 PM   #15
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Are we going to see any machines before the end of the summer? Or am I reading this wrong and even FASTER machines (> 2ghz) will be coming at the end of the year?
don't worry, it like the ITMS "by the end of the year" it is meant to let other companies relax
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:23 PM   #16
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Edited so people would stop yelling at me for making a simple mistake.

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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:33 PM   #17
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One thing I have never understood is why Apple will not let people have a single processor configuration or dual based on their needs. I think it is pretty obvious that you could fit two of the 1.6 chips in the motherboards that they are using for the dual 2.0's. Also, I would love to have the option to get a single 2.0 processor. It should not be such a big deal.
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One thing I have never understood is why Apple will not let people have a single processor configuration or dual based on their needs. I think it is pretty obvious that you could fit two of the 1.6 chips in the motherboards that they are using for the dual 2.0's. Also, I would love to have the option to get a single 2.0 processor. It should not be such a big deal.
Remember the old iMacs with 5 colors, and how apple always was short on some colors and had so much tangerine it was 100 bucks less?

Sure it would be nice, but apple probably won't do it.
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:41 PM   #19
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Are we going to see any machines before the end of the summer? Or am I reading this wrong and even FASTER machines (> 2ghz) will be coming at the end of the year?
Yes, faster than 2Ghz by the end of the year. And next year, they'll have the 980 built on the 0.90 nm process. IBM ought to be getting close to 4 Ghz by the second half of 2004.
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:43 PM   #20
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i believe too they are reffering to even faster machines towards christmas, isn't it true that Apple usually updates its products every 6-8 months, be it minor details, or substantial upgrades...

we'll see, now I'm going to take a sleeping pill and wake up on monday, that way I don't have to wait! http://cdn.macrumors.com/vb/images/icons/icon7.gif
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:44 PM   #21
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dual processors

i am actually wondering:

if the power4 is multicore by design, is it really that much cheaper to put 2 seperate PPCs 970 on the board?

couldn't they use some scaled down multicore?
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:45 PM   #22
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I have serious doubts about the availability of these machines. One problem is Serial ATA. I have done some research, and while there are plenty of Serial ATA controllers out, there wont be any true Serial ATA hard drives out until December of this year.

http://www.explosivelabs.com/articles/sata/
No offense, but you need to do a bit more research. The article you linked to was Oct. 2002. So, the December reference was Dec. 2002.

Segate makes a "true" S-ATA drive. They have been shipping for quite some time now. Welcome to 2003!
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:46 PM   #23
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Are we going to see any machines before the end of the summer? Or am I reading this wrong and even FASTER machines (> 2ghz) will be coming at the end of the year?
Theres no way they would announce system and not ship for 6 months. They will release the 1.6 - 2.0 GHZ on monday and by the end of the year we will see 2.2 - 2.5 GHZ. Thats my take anyway.
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:49 PM   #24
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I have serious doubts about the availability of these machines. One problem is Serial ATA. I have done some research, and while there are plenty of Serial ATA controllers out, there wont be any true Serial ATA hard drives out until December of this year.
Seems to me that Serial ATA drivers are in pretty good supply...

http://www.pricewatch.com/menus/m26.htm

Whether or not these are "true" Serial ATA drives, Apple would have no problem putting these in, just like they stuck DDR memory in the current machines.
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Old Jun 20, 2003, 03:50 PM   #25
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No offense, but you need to do a bit more research. The article you linked to was Oct. 2002. So, the December reference was Dec. 2002.

Segate makes a "true" S-ATA drive. They have been shipping for quite some time now. Welcome to 2003!
Oooops! Sorry about that. I read it and assumed it meant December 2003.
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