Apple's Subnotebook 'Delayed' Until Late 2007/Early 2008?

MacRumors · 08:08 PM

Appleinsider now believes that Apple's "ultra-thin and lightweight notebook" with NAND flash may take more time than originally projected.

The rumor site had previously believed that a "lighter and more compact than any other Mac portable Apple has put forth in recent years" was on track near WWDC (June 2007).

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Citing a maturing timeline, people familiar with the initiative now have the chic notebook tracking for the latter half of the year, with a contingency plan in place to transition the device into a Macworld 2008 product should engineers require the additional time.

This is in spite of recent news that Intel's Santa Rosa initiative will be shipping as early as next month. The Santa Rosa platform similarly provides NAND-flash caching to improve boot times and battery lives.

If true, the latest rumor, indicates that Apple's own version of this technology will not see light of day until late 2007 or early 2008.

This timeframe is also consistent with analyst reports of the same:

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The maker of the popular iPod music player and Macintosh computers hopes to introduce so-called flash memory in small computers known as subnotebooks in the second half of 2007

The first rumors of a NAND-flash caching Mac laptop came in January 2006 from Digitimes, but has since been corroborated by multiple other reports. Just today, Digitimes reports that Apple has been negotiating with Samsung for volume purchasing of more NAND flash.

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Apple is asking for 400-500 million 4Gbit NAND flash equivalent chips from Samsung, the sources said. Since the volume requested by Apple is 10-15% more than what the two parties agreed earlier, Samsung is not 100% sure its capacity can meet the need, the sources indicated.

While these supplies are presumed to be for the iPod and iPhone, Apple could also be planning for future NAND-flash based laptops.

DMann · 08:21 PM

Better late than 2008........... would love to have seen them at WWDC

theheadguy · Apr 27, 2007, 07:25 PM

The sooner the better. I consider this good news... There really isn't anything solid to discuss lately.

PlaceofDis · Apr 27, 2007, 07:26 PM

better late than never!

well i certainly hope there is some truth to this and the product sees the light of day.

sikkinixx · Apr 27, 2007, 07:26 PM

Common Apple theme these days : delays.

FF_productions · Apr 27, 2007, 07:26 PM

I probably won't buy it but it seems pretty cool.

Funny how they can say it is delayed when it hasn't even been announced by Apple yet.

theheadguy · Apr 27, 2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FF_productions

Funny how they can say it is delayed when it hasn't even been announced by Apple yet.

It can certainly be delayed without being announced, it's just not pleasing to read since we don't know without a doubt if it exists or not.

pknz · Apr 27, 2007, 07:31 PM

Spelling error, cashing?

mkrishnan · Apr 27, 2007, 07:31 PM

Who knows? It seems like weird never-die rumors about Apple have actually had a pretty good track record of late. God knows, this is the one I want to come true.

I wonder whether it will really end up using a "light" version of OS X like the iPhone does.

Wild-Bill · Apr 27, 2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sikkinixx

Common Apple theme these days : delays.

Another common Apple theme: sink all resources into iPhone. Allow all other product lines to suffer.

Peace · Apr 27, 2007, 07:33 PM

All these delays bring me to believe all new apple hardware is being optimized for Leopard.

IJ Reilly · Apr 27, 2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild-Bill

Another common Apple theme: sink all resources into iPhone. Allow all other product lines to suffer.

Even products that don't actually exist. Oh, the horror!

Erasmus · Apr 27, 2007, 07:38 PM

Gimme.

Santa Rosa Macbook Pro.

Now. Now. Now now now now nownownownownownownownownow.

What!!! No SR MBP!!!

Why, Steve, Why? Why do you hate your eyes so??? Is seeing really so terrible???

steve_hill4 · Apr 27, 2007, 07:41 PM

I'd love a sub-MacBook Pro, (Al casing). Since I have no plans for maybe another 12 months or more, I can easily wait for MWSF 08 or 09. Would be nice to see one soon though for others and to let it bed in a bit for myself.

OwlsAndApples · Apr 27, 2007, 07:44 PM

Ahh..more delays. Bliss

Project · Apr 27, 2007, 07:45 PM

400m-500m chips? Is that a typo? Or another potential ET cartridge for the Atari situation

Scarlet Fever · Apr 27, 2007, 07:45 PM

i used a mates Vaio sub-notebook the other day. Its really cool, but its damn thick for what it is; its thicker than my MacBook!

An Apple sub-notebook would be awesome, if they could keep the price down a bit.

emptyCup · Apr 27, 2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sikkinixx

Common Apple theme these days : delays.

Another common theme: Make up rumors of non-existent products and when they don't appear make up rumors of delays. As far as I know there has been only one delay: Leopard. All the rest are just people who hope that wishing will make it so and then get frustrated when it doesn't.

papadopolis1024 · Apr 27, 2007, 07:53 PM

If there really is one I wonder how much they will sell it for. If it was in the 800$ (US) I would jump on that train. But I doubt it will run that low.

sikkinixx · Apr 27, 2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by emptyCup

Another common theme: Make up rumors of non-existent products and when they don't appear make up rumors of delays. As far as I know there has been only one delay: Leopard. All the rest are just people who hope that wishing will make it so and then get frustrated when it doesn't.

True, but it still sucks reading how full-size video iPods are delayed, SR notebooks keep falling further and further back into '07, Leopard not till the fall, Apple TV shipping late, etc even if they are just rumors. Perhaps Q3/4 will be the half year of the Mac.

PlaceofDis · Apr 27, 2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by papadopolis1024

If there really is one I wonder how much they will sell it for. If it was in the 800$ (US) I would jump on that train. But I doubt it will run that low.

unlikely. subnotebooks typically cost more than the normal run of the mill 'books but depends on how small we're talking here too. and what components they're using.

papadopolis1024 · Apr 27, 2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PlaceofDis

unlikely. subnotebooks typically cost more than the normal run of the mill 'books but depends on how small we're talking here too. and what components they're using.

Ya Im just hoping for somthing that would not have alot of power just enough for internet, word docs, and maybe movies.

4np · Apr 27, 2007, 08:02 PM

I was under the impression that the sub notebook would be flash only (no hd for storage but flash). This would be different from santa rosa as that would be hd + flash caching. So, I would say santa rosa mbp's with flash caching are still expected for june/july release...

robPOD · Apr 27, 2007, 08:05 PM

Why the delays apple???? i used a subnotebook 11" sony vaio laptop the other day, it felt way to small to use comfortably.

TantalizedMind · Apr 27, 2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by steve_hill4

I'd love a sub-MacBook Pro.

Isn't that called the MacBook?

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sikkinixx macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In horrible movies...	Common Apple theme these days : delays. __________________

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mkrishnan Demi-God (Moderator) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI, USA	Who knows? It seems like weird never-die rumors about Apple have actually had a pretty good track record of late. God knows, this is the one I want to come true. I wonder whether it will really end up using a "light" version of OS X like the iPhone does. __________________ Mohan

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theheadguy macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2005	The sooner the better. I consider this good news... There really isn't anything solid to discuss lately.

Apr 27, 2007, 07:26 PM	#4
PlaceofDis macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago.	better late than never! well i certainly hope there is some truth to this and the product sees the light of day.

Apr 27, 2007, 07:33 PM	#11
Peace macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: On top of the Storm Peaks waiting for the Time-Lost Proto Drake	All these delays bring me to believe all new apple hardware is being optimized for Leopard.

Apr 27, 2007, 07:38 PM	#13
Erasmus macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Australia, Where Omnius can't find me!	Gimme. Santa Rosa Macbook Pro. Now. Now. Now now now now nownownownownownownownownow. What!!! No SR MBP!!! Why, Steve, Why? Why do you hate your eyes so??? Is seeing really so terrible??? __________________ Had: G4 Cube Have: 2.2 Macbook Pro Want: Quad core "Sandy Bridge" Macbook Pro ASAP.

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steve_hill4 macrumors 68000 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Propping up the bar.	I'd love a sub-MacBook Pro, (Al casing). Since I have no plans for maybe another 12 months or more, I can easily wait for MWSF 08 or 09. Would be nice to see one soon though for others and to let it bed in a bit for myself. __________________ If I had all the money I've spent on drink, I'd spend it on drink. - Vivian Stanshall

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OwlsAndApples macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK	Ahh..more delays. Bliss __________________ Cyber Nations, A nation simulation game

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Project macrumors 68020 Join Date: Aug 2005	400m-500m chips? Is that a typo? Or another potential ET cartridge for the Atari situation

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Scarlet Fever macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bookshop!	i used a mates Vaio sub-notebook the other day. Its really cool, but its damn thick for what it is; its thicker than my MacBook! An Apple sub-notebook would be awesome, if they could keep the price down a bit. __________________ i have stuff. you have stuff. we are all consumers.

Apr 27, 2007, 07:53 PM	#19
papadopolis1024 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2007	If there really is one I wonder how much they will sell it for. If it was in the 800$ (US) I would jump on that train. But I doubt it will run that low.

Apr 27, 2007, 08:02 PM	#23
4np macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Netherlands	I was under the impression that the sub notebook would be flash only (no hd for storage but flash). This would be different from santa rosa as that would be hd + flash caching. So, I would say santa rosa mbp's with flash caching are still expected for june/july release...

Apr 27, 2007, 08:05 PM	#24
robPOD Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Auckland, New Zealand	Why the delays apple???? i used a subnotebook 11" sony vaio laptop the other day, it felt way to small to use comfortably.

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