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Old May 2, 2007, 10:29 PM   #1
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What does Apple TV do?!

I must be the only one on the forum who doesn't know what Apple TV does. Is it an iPod for the TV?

It sounds like it will play movies stored on an internal drive. How do they get there? Do you load a DVD and it converts it and stores it?

What's the point?

Sell me one!
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Old May 2, 2007, 10:35 PM   #2
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It syncs or streams movies from your computer, to get them on there you need to either buy them from iTunes or rip your own DVDs on your computer.
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It syncs or streams movies from your computer, to get them on there you need to either buy them from iTunes or rip your own DVDs on your computer.
I thought that the thing had an HD. No?

So... instead of ooking up my MBP to a screen with a $30 cable, I buy this block of plastic for $299?

I still don't get it.
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It has a 40GB HD in it, you have the option of either syncing files from your computer to the HD, like you can with an iPod just it is wirelessly, or you can stream the files wirelessly to your TV from your computer
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You hook this box up to the TV, and it connects to your wireless network, allowing you to play the content that is on it's internal hard drive OR play content on ANY Mac or PC in your network, wirelessly of course.
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Old May 2, 2007, 11:19 PM   #6
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I think of my Apple TV as a giant iPod. It holds a copy of all my music, movies, and photos, so I can play/watch them on my TV. I get my content from the iTunes Store, CDs, or other sources, collect them in iTunes and iPhoto, and let them sync to the Apple TV.
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Old May 3, 2007, 12:49 AM   #7
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I must be the only one on the forum who doesn't know what Apple TV does. Is it an iPod for the TV?

It sounds like it will play movies stored on an internal drive. How do they get there? Do you load a DVD and it converts it and stores it?

What's the point?

Sell me one!
All answers can be found here: www.apple.com/appletv
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Old May 3, 2007, 01:16 AM   #8
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If this isn't a troll post, it certainly sounds like one.

"So... instead of ooking up my MBP to a screen with a $30 cable, I buy this block of plastic for $299?"

Right. Just like you buy an iPod instead of carrying around a MacBook with headphones plugged into it.

I've had three different computers connected to my TV via cable; it made for a profoundly annoying experience. You have a cable running between two usually distant locations (unless your TV is right next to your computer, which I doubt). All your windows will get messed up each time you switch to the TV output because the TV resolution will be much lower than your computer display's. You have to click through iTunes, which is not at all enjoyable from your sofa. Or you could use Front Row, which doesn't do podcasts, TV shows, and won't stream from your other computers - all this provided that, again, your computer is in the same room with the TV. This is for people with nice living room home theater setups. Otherwise, just watch the darn thing on your computer - what do you have a TV for?

Whatever argument you use against AppleTV, skip "I could just hook it up via cable".
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Old May 3, 2007, 05:40 AM   #9
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I must be the only one on the forum who doesn't know what Apple TV does. Is it an iPod for the TV?

It sounds like it will play movies stored on an internal drive. How do they get there? Do you load a DVD and it converts it and stores it?

What's the point?

Sell me one!
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Old May 3, 2007, 10:55 AM   #10
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I thought that the thing had an HD. No?

So... instead of ooking up my MBP to a screen with a $30 cable, I buy this block of plastic for $299?

I still don't get it.
I thought the same thing as you do...until I actually got one. What if you want to USE your laptop while you're watching your movies on your TV? I have my MBP linked to my iTunes library wirelessly which is a 500GB external hooked to my Airport Extreme N station, with all my movies and music and tv shows on it. I can sit on my bed, and have AppleTV stream all my media from my wireless hard drive while not being tied down to my projector or an external hard drive.
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Old May 3, 2007, 10:57 AM   #11
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Although I don't own one yet, the main attraction for me is the simplicity.

Right now when I want to watch a video file on my tv, I have to:

1) Copy the file from my desktop to my laptop
2) Bring a TV-Dinner table next to the TV
3) Put laptop on TV-Dinner table
4) Move power adaptor from desk to TV area
5) Find the mini Hdmi to S-Video adapter from my box of entanglend wire
6) Fins s-video wire from above box of entangled wire
7) Find Audio wire from said box of entangled wire
8) Plug everything in
9) Set TV to correct input
10) Select file on laptop and drag it on player icon
11) Adjust volume balance between Application, laptop and TV
12) Select "Full-Screen" mode
13) Turn laptop around so I don't see the mirrored video on the laptop screen.
14) Hope I don't need to get up to fast forward, rewind, pause.
15) Watch video
16) Trash duplicate video file from laptop
17) Put everything away until next time

(Mileage may vary if you have a more recent laptop with front row/remote)

If I had the Apple TV (Waiting for it to support subtitles in some way), It would be much simpler, especially with my universal remote:

1) Select Apple TV activity on the remote
2) Select video file
3) Enjoy

There is also the added bonus of the very nice and simple user interface.
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Although I don't own one yet, the main attraction for me is the simplicity.
So basically, you rip your DVD collection onto your HD (or is it into iTunes?) and then you stream that video across the room to the Apple TV?

And you can stream music from iTunes over to your TV?

I have a MBP, does my little remote work the Apple TV too?
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Old May 3, 2007, 01:06 PM   #13
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I have my MBP linked to my iTunes library wirelessly which is a 500GB external hooked to my Airport Extreme N station...
How fast (or slow) is that to access? About the same as a USB? That sounds cool because I have an external Firewire 800 500GB drive but I connect it directly to my MBP. I have a wireless router with a USB port that might be made for doing what you are doing (it's not an Airport).
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So basically, you rip your DVD collection onto your HD (or is it into iTunes?) and then you stream that video across the room to the Apple TV?

And you can stream music from iTunes over to your TV?

I have a MBP, does my little remote work the Apple TV too?

Basically.

You can also download content from the iTunes store. (I personally will be waiting for the service to be available in Canada and for HD content)

To me, Apple TV is like Airport Express, but for video, with a nice and simple interface.

Your Apple remote would work with the Apple TV but there is one included in the box. (Apple remotes can be paired with devices to avoid sending commands to multiple nearby Apple products at once)
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So basically, you rip your DVD collection onto your HD (or is it into iTunes?) and then you stream that video across the room to the Apple TV?

And you can stream music from iTunes over to your TV?

I have a MBP, does my little remote work the Apple TV too?
Yes you can rip your dvds to your hard drive on your macbook pro put them under itunes which then you can send them to your apple tv. The apple tv comes with a apple remote which is the same as the one that came with your Macbook Pro. You can send your music to your apple tv aswell as your tv shows and photos.
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Old May 3, 2007, 01:42 PM   #16
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Or you could use Front Row, which doesn't do podcasts, TV shows, and won't stream from your other computers
This is incorrect. Front Row can playback podcasts and TV shows as well as stream from other computers. These can be found inside the Video section.

One key difference between the two is that Front Row can only play back DRM'd content that the computer it is running on has been auth'd for. Apple TV does not burn an auth.

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If I had the Apple TV (Waiting for it to support subtitles in some way), It would be much simpler, especially with my universal remote...
I've been using the Apple Remote, and my biggest problem has been finding it. It's so small that it gets lost among the other remotes, or in the sofa cushions!

But it sure is nice that I can put new content on my Mac and then play it for the rest of the family on the TV at any time, with no extra effort. Our photo slideshows have been much more popular since we didn't have to crowd around a computer (or an iPod).
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Old May 3, 2007, 06:26 PM   #18
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Apple TV is great, i enjoy it daily

Hey, i just got my Apple TV and it is just great! I do not see it as an iPod nor an Airport or anything you ....mentioned. It is a clear iTunes interface for HDTV. It can only play iTunes content. Not avi videos , just what you have in iTunes. I have an iMac G5 hooked up with a 500GB external firewire HD , in which i have all my music(25GB), my TV shows(40GB), my movies (12GB). So since apple Tv has a HD of only 40gb it would be imposiible to sync it with all my stuff. I use stream all the time (for those of you, that you don't own an Apple TV, believe me it is extremely fast you don't even have to wait for the movie to load). The only bad think in the case is that iTunes only plays mp4, m4v, mov files but no avi. So i had to convert a huge amount of tv shows and some movies from avi to m4v(export to apple tv from quick time). But now i feel great that i can have all my iTunes with nice interface in my great brand new HDTV, in my lovely bedroom.........Everything works great!!!!!!
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Two more dumb questions:

1. Does TV only work with HDTV? I'm still in the dark ages with my old skool Panasonic from 1988 (no lie!).

2. I own VisualHub and it has a mode for converting movies into iTunes (TV format).
a) Can I view these videos on my iPod?
b) Do they look good in HD (since they must be compressed like nuts)?

And I confess that I am just a little puzzled about this still... is TV all about convienience? I mean, if I own the DVD, why not just play the DVD instead of ripping it and storing it on a drive (at a lower resolution)? I can see now that TV might be cool if I had a bunch of downloaded movies or paid money to iTunes Store for something... but most of my stuff is on real DVDs. Maybe I'm too old for this stuff!
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Two more dumb questions:

1. Does TV only work with HDTV? I'm still in the dark ages with my old skool Panasonic from 1988 (no lie!).

2. I own VisualHub and it has a mode for converting movies into iTunes (TV format).
a) Can I view these videos on my iPod?
b) Do they look good in HD (since they must be compressed like nuts)?

And I confess that I am just a little puzzled about this still... is TV all about convienience? I mean, if I own the DVD, why not just play the DVD instead of ripping it and storing it on a drive (at a lower resolution)? I can see now that TV might be cool if I had a bunch of downloaded movies or paid money to iTunes Store for something... but most of my stuff is on real DVDs. Maybe I'm too old for this stuff!
1. there are a few threads on here that discuss this, i think the answer is yes you can hook it upu but its not going to look very good. ATV was made for widescreen HD.

2. encoding using visualhub with the appleTV settings gives you an mp4 thats pretty much DVD quality. Depending on your bitrate a normal movie is between 1 and 2 gigs.

To your final statement, that question has been brought up alot here. and the best answer that folks give is that, why convert all your CDs to mp3 and bring them into iTunes if you can just put a disc in... Its the same thing, its more convenient to have instant access to all your media.
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Why convert all your CDs to mp3 and bring them into iTunes if you can just put a disc in... Its the same thing, its more convenient to have instant access to all your media.
Hmmm. That's a great point. I never thought about that! I find ripping CDs so freaking natural that I don't even ask myself why I'm doin' it!
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All this information is on the product page at apple.com. You're asking very simple questions in individual posts. If you spent 5 minutes reading the product page, you would have answered all of your questions.

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Why do you want to be sold on something that 1) you don't know what it does, 2) you cant benefit from owning one with your lack of purely digital content from iTunes 3) you don't have an HDTV (widescreen)?

I download TV episodes I miss for various reasons using iTunes and watch them using the TV and my 42" HDTV. During my middle daughter's birthday party I played music in the background via the TV on the HDTV (I coulda used the iMac, which has decent & powerful external speakers, but the other way was "cooler").

If you cant think of a reason to get one, you probably shouldn't bother getting one.
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Why do you want to be sold on something that you don't know what it does?
I was a late adopter of the iPod. I had no idea why anyone would want one. Then I got one as a present. Changed my life. Now I don't use CDs and I own a MBP.

I'm clueless (not so much so now!) as to why TV has such a buzz at work and while out and about. Now I see why people are talking about it so much.

Thanks all!
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