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Old May 14, 2007, 09:13 AM   #1
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Can I install Mac OS in HP laptop

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I have a HP laptop DV6200 series, Intel Core 2 due 1.6 ghz, 1 gb ram, NVIDIA GE Force g0 7400 128 mb shared memory. Currently I am running vista home premium in it, but would like to install MAC OS. Can any one please suggest me if it is possible. Also is it worth doing this, in terms of performance and virus threat.
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Old May 14, 2007, 09:15 AM   #2
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The EULA agreement for OSX means that you would be breaking the contract you enter between yourself and Apple if you were to install OSX on any non-Apple manufactured machine.

So if you are willing to take the risk of being sued by Apple you could try but that requires a lot of hacking (which may be against the DMCA if you live in the USA) and even then there will almost certainly be missing drivers.

So short answer, sell the HP, buy a real Mac.
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Old May 14, 2007, 09:18 AM   #3
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I'ts possible but illegal.
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Old May 14, 2007, 09:24 AM   #4
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Old May 14, 2007, 09:28 AM   #5
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due to lack of significant hardware, your OS X experience would be in vein.
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Old May 14, 2007, 09:36 AM   #6
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So he joined this forum just to answer the oldest question in the book with the simplest answer. No. These topics come up so often I think we need a sticky.
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So he joined this forum just to answer the oldest question in the book with the simplest answer. No. These topics come up so often I think we need a sticky.
Seconded. This is always coming up.
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Old May 14, 2007, 10:43 AM   #8
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...Also is it worth doing this, in terms of performance and virus threat.

WT...!!!

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Old May 14, 2007, 11:01 AM   #9
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Can you do it? Yes
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Old May 14, 2007, 08:16 PM   #10
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Can you do it? Yes
Is it any good? No
Can you do it legally? No
that sums it up, plus sometimes they have problems with sound,
and you can run PPC apps b/c it is missing the thing that needs to be gone to install it on non-apple hardware.
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Old May 15, 2007, 06:23 AM   #11
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trash your HP and get a real notebook (an Apple one) and a real OS (the Apple one).
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Old May 15, 2007, 08:36 AM   #12
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http://www.osx86project.org/ this is the forum you were looking for, and no, its not worth it, a simple software update would kill the install, as they say...getamac
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Old May 15, 2007, 08:40 AM   #13
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I have a HP laptop DV6200 series, Intel Core 2 due 1.6 ghz, 1 gb ram, NVIDIA GE Force g0 7400 128 mb shared memory. Currently I am running vista home premium in it, but would like to install MAC OS. Can any one please suggest me if it is possible. Also is it worth doing this, in terms of performance and virus threat.
Anyone attempting to do this gets a personal phone call from Steve Jobs on his iPhone saying 'Boom!' at which point your HP explodes and is rendered unusable.
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Old May 15, 2007, 11:46 AM   #14
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wow.

the answer to your question is yes, it is possible. It takes some work, though.

Apple has never sued anyone for "misusing" their EULA by putting OS X on a non-Apple-built machine. Apple uses the same hardware components that HP does for the most part. Apple uses a better case. The HP uses a better screen. There are some obvious cosmetic differences.

Other than that, from an engineer's point of view, you have a macbook pro and there's nothing wrong with it. Ignore the fanboys. They have secretly installed copies of windows on their Macs so they can play games from this decade, anyway, so they're being intellectually dishonest.

We can't really talk about how to do what you want to do on this forum, but there are plenty of other places to look. All of the hardware you listed is currently supported by OS X. 10.4.9 will be the last version of Tiger, so no worries about updates "breaking" the OS until 10.5 is out.

It's not a terribly easy thing to set up, but once you've got it going, you just turn off Software Update or ignore the ones for core system updates, and you have a working Mac on your HP. These guys are just mad that you will spend several hundred dollars less than they did for the same machine.

Apple will be selling OS X for non-apple machines before the decade is over, anyway.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's one of the "super-secret" features of 10.5 that hasn't been announced yet.
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Old May 15, 2007, 11:54 AM   #15
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"Apple will be selling OS X for non-apple machines before the decade is over, anyway." what nonsence, the only way apple would ever sell osx for non apple hardware would be if the macs marketshare grew to monopoliptic proprtions, in which case the hardware and software divisions could be forsed to split. But this will never happen, linux will overtake windows in the enterprise market and apple plus probably ps4 / xbox and other set top box solutions will cover the home market.
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Old May 15, 2007, 12:19 PM   #16
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i remember people like you saying 2 years ago that Apple would never abandon Big-endian PowerPC processors and move their computers to the "inferior" x86 architecture because Steve Jobs said so.

and that Apple would never make a 2-button mouse because Steve Jobs said it would confuse users.

and that Apple would never put a crappy USB connection on the iPod cause Jobs said so.

and that Apple would never put iTunes on Windows cause Jobs wouldn't want to canibalize Mac sales.

and that Apple wouldn't ever make a "smart phone"cause Jobs said they're stupid.

Basically, any time Steve Jobs says that Apple isn't going to do something, you can bet that they will eventually do it.

We'll eventually see some sort of subscription-based service on iTunes. Probably for Video instead of music, but as soon as the bandwidth is there, apple is ready for it.

We will also see boxed copies of OS X for at least Intel-based PCs. It may not be on store shelves, but it will be available through some big vendor or another. OS X is no longer a money-making venture for Apple so much as it is an image-boosting venture. It's the thing that makes people take Apple seriously.

I find it amusing that you expect the PS4 to replace computers in the home. I'd say Sony will be lucky if they make it to the PS4 at all. The Cell processor architecture will probably outlive the PlayStation name.

and Linux? It'll never be more than a bit player. I like Linux. I've got a linux box at home running as a media server. But your mom will never use Linux. She also won't ever use a PlayStation to listen to music or surf the net. A mac mini connected to her new LCD TV, though? Now we're talking.
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Old May 15, 2007, 12:42 PM   #17
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wow.

the answer to your question is yes, it is possible. It takes some work, though.

Apple has never sued anyone for "misusing" their EULA by putting OS X on a non-Apple-built machine. Apple uses the same hardware components that HP does for the most part. Apple uses a better case. The HP uses a better screen. There are some obvious cosmetic differences.

Other than that, from an engineer's point of view, you have a macbook pro and there's nothing wrong with it. Ignore the fanboys. They have secretly installed copies of windows on their Macs so they can play games from this decade, anyway, so they're being intellectually dishonest.

We can't really talk about how to do what you want to do on this forum, but there are plenty of other places to look. All of the hardware you listed is currently supported by OS X. 10.4.9 will be the last version of Tiger, so no worries about updates "breaking" the OS until 10.5 is out.

It's not a terribly easy thing to set up, but once you've got it going, you just turn off Software Update or ignore the ones for core system updates, and you have a working Mac on your HP. These guys are just mad that you will spend several hundred dollars less than they did for the same machine.

Apple will be selling OS X for non-apple machines before the decade is over, anyway.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's one of the "super-secret" features of 10.5 that hasn't been announced yet.
There is a difference between installing Windows on the Mac and installing OS X on a PC, since Windows can be legally installed on any computer, and OS X can't. and also the hacked versions of OS X are not very stable. And Apple will not sell OS X for PCs anytime soon since they are a hardware company.
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Old May 15, 2007, 12:55 PM   #18
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Yes, but it is difficult to do, less stable than usual, and illegal.
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i remember people like you saying 2 years ago that Apple would never abandon Big-endian PowerPC processors and move their computers to the "inferior" x86 architecture because Steve Jobs said so.

and that Apple would never make a 2-button mouse because Steve Jobs said it would confuse users.

and that Apple would never put a crappy USB connection on the iPod cause Jobs said so.

and that Apple would never put iTunes on Windows cause Jobs wouldn't want to canibalize Mac sales.

and that Apple wouldn't ever make a "smart phone"cause Jobs said they're stupid.

Basically, any time Steve Jobs says that Apple isn't going to do something, you can bet that they will eventually do it.

We'll eventually see some sort of subscription-based service on iTunes. Probably for Video instead of music, but as soon as the bandwidth is there, apple is ready for it.

We will also see boxed copies of OS X for at least Intel-based PCs. It may not be on store shelves, but it will be available through some big vendor or another. OS X is no longer a money-making venture for Apple so much as it is an image-boosting venture. It's the thing that makes people take Apple seriously.

I find it amusing that you expect the PS4 to replace computers in the home. I'd say Sony will be lucky if they make it to the PS4 at all. The Cell processor architecture will probably outlive the PlayStation name.

and Linux? It'll never be more than a bit player. I like Linux. I've got a linux box at home running as a media server. But your mom will never use Linux. She also won't ever use a PlayStation to listen to music or surf the net. A mac mini connected to her new LCD TV, though? Now we're talking.
Linux is already taking over the role windows used to play for many governments and the enterprise market will follow suit after being burned by microsofts proprietry model, plus it will save money which we know they love to do. i didnt mean ps4 literally but settop boxes / terminals / consoles these sort of devises are powerful enough to facilitate most peoples needs (email, document writing, web, music) and i dont remember apple saying half those things you claim, just the mouse button.
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Old May 15, 2007, 01:14 PM   #20
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according to the wording of the (non-legally binding, by the way) EULA for OS X, it can only be installed on an Apple-labelled computer. I happen to have some cute little Apple stickers that came with my machine...Now I wonder what I could do with those stickers?

Apple could put into their EULA that they own the rights to your firstborn child, but that doesn't make it so.

They themselves have used open-source code without keeping it open, which is a violation of the GNU agreement. I understand why this forum doesn't allow discussion of how to put OS X on any old PC (fear of Apple), but that's not the same thing as something being illegal.

There is no US law against putting OS X on a generic PC. It is as simple as that.
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