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Old May 17, 2007, 07:53 AM   #1
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Old May 17, 2007, 08:11 AM   #2
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This is impressive! How do the antenna cables attach? I guess I'm just looking at photos, but the connection looks unfamiliar to me. Do they snap on, or is there some other mechanism?

Anyone done this?
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Old May 17, 2007, 08:37 AM   #3
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Just ordered one of these off of eBay for my MacBook Pro $40 + $7 shipping. Looks to be a pretty easy install; I'll report back after trying it.
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Old May 17, 2007, 09:13 AM   #4
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Once N is out of draft and mine is long out of warranty I'll likely upgrade mine.
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Old May 17, 2007, 09:17 AM   #5
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This is impressive! How do the antenna cables attach? I guess I'm just looking at photos, but the connection looks unfamiliar to me. Do they snap on, or is there some other mechanism?

Anyone done this?
It looks like some kind of snaps looking at the picture.
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This is impressive! How do the antenna cables attach? I guess I'm just looking at photos, but the connection looks unfamiliar to me. Do they snap on, or is there some other mechanism?

Anyone done this?
Yes, there are posts on the card itself and they just snap onto the cup shaped like connectors.
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Old May 17, 2007, 09:22 AM   #7
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Ahh, excellent, thanks!
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Old May 17, 2007, 09:24 AM   #8
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Are these cards the same for the mac mini ?
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Old May 17, 2007, 09:29 AM   #9
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How much would the range improve with my Macbook Pro CD and Airport Express? At all?
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Old May 17, 2007, 09:43 AM   #10
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How much would the range improve with my Macbook Pro CD and Airport Express? At all?
Airport Express? Should not make any significant difference. You will need an 802.11n router to make a difference. Then you'll get something like a 1.5-2x range boost.
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Old May 17, 2007, 09:46 AM   #11
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Airport Express? Should not make any significant difference. You will need an 802.11n router to make a difference. Then you'll get something like a 1.5-2x range boost.
hmm... okay. I thought that it would have a better range for all the signals, but oh well. Thanks.
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I 'think' if you use the 802.11n card on a 802.11g network then you may see a slightly better reception, but nothing more that that.
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Old May 17, 2007, 10:28 AM   #13
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Are these cards the same for the mac mini ?
Should be. They all use a standard Mini PCI-E card
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Old May 17, 2007, 11:33 AM   #14
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Are these cards the same for the mac mini ?
if you have other questions why not posting them directly in the dedicated topic on hardmac forum??
http://forum.hardmac.com/index.php?showtopic=1363

and the step-by-step procedure to upgrade a Core Duo-based MacBook with the Apple-branded Airport 802.11n car is described here:
http://www.hardmac.com/articles/71/
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Old May 18, 2007, 11:19 AM   #15
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Those crazy french guys at macbidouille/hardmac always seem to be doing things like this! Don't they have jobs/families/parties to go to?!
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Old May 21, 2007, 11:14 AM   #16
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How much would the range improve with my Macbook Pro CD and Airport Express? At all?
Yes.

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Airport Express? Should not make any significant difference. You will need an 802.11n router to make a difference. Then you'll get something like a 1.5-2x range boost.
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hmm... okay. I thought that it would have a better range for all the signals, but oh well. Thanks.
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I 'think' if you use the 802.11n card on a 802.11g network then you may see a slightly better reception, but nothing more that that.
Exactly. The MIMO hardware helps improve range no matter the standard. For instance MIMO 802.11g routers are out there that extend the range without any new protocols! Its really quite simple, by using multiple simultaneous signals once can extend the range sort of like adding vectors. So whatever piece of equipment router or card has MIMO in .11g or .11n (all .11n cards have MIMO, most -g do not!) it will extend your range. I got the new 802.11n Airport Express because I had abysmal reception in my basement with my Powerbook, now its crystal clear, but I still only have .11g in my computer. It works in reverse as well.

So yes you will get better range. Thats it. Speed will only be bumped due to corollary better reception.
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So you don't need even need MIMO itself on both ends to make it work? Wow, that's educational!
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Old Jun 5, 2007, 08:41 PM   #18
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Just wanted to post a followup to this: got the card about a week ago, finally got some time tonight to install it. Works like a charm! Just as MacBoudille reported, my MBP sees it as an Airport Extreme, Broadcom chip, 802.11b/g/n. Connects without any problems to my Airport Extreme 802.11n, and transfers are much speedier than with my previous 802.11g hardware.

All-in-all, a pretty easy installation and definitely worth the $45.
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Once N is out of draft and mine is long out of warranty I'll likely upgrade mine.
what does it mean to be in our out of draft?

thanks...
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what does it mean to be in our out of draft?

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Out of draft = once the details of n have been completely finalized.
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Out of draft = once the details of n have been completely finalized.
so nothing changes? it is just details.... ?
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