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Old May 31, 2007, 01:23 PM   #1
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Old May 31, 2007, 02:38 PM   #2
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Well, color me impressed (with the Mac Plus). And simultaneously unimpressed (With our advances). This report merely feeds into my paranoia that the power of my computer is being wasted by inefficient programmers.

That said, I'm not unhappy with the performance of my Mac (admittedly Word is slow opening, but 2008 will come out someday).

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It's not fair to attribute the need for faster chips to inefficiency alone: they've also added FEATURES since 1984 They weren't testing an OS and apps that offer the the same things.
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Time to go fire up my old Plus, maybe it will be beat my G3!
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Old May 31, 2007, 03:53 PM   #5
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Maybe, but it won't beat the boot time of my Commodore 64
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Old May 31, 2007, 04:06 PM   #7
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the power of my computer is being wasted by inefficient programmers.
Programmers are like anyone else. If you give them the leeway to use what is available, they'll suck up the resources.

The Plus report is like a report saying that a model T is still competitive because it gets 26 mpg. Yeah, the mileage may be good, but it still has a ways to go to hit that new Accord level...
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Old May 31, 2007, 04:09 PM   #8
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Can't wait to move my iTunes library to a Mac plus.

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Old May 31, 2007, 04:25 PM   #9
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Yup kinda bogus benchmarking, heck my old TI SR11(ca. 1974) booted immediately, as does a more modern TI-89. The 89 even has the same processor as the Plus, clocked higher at 12MHz. So I guess my 89 would beat the Plus in a few operations. Oh ya, it's got more RAM too I think, it's a LOT smaller and an order of magnitude cheaper. Jeez, would ya look at all these apples and oranges and rutabagas layin on the floor... how come they don't look the same???

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Old May 31, 2007, 04:55 PM   #10
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Let's not lose the point of the whole ordeal. Sloppy programs are taking advantage of incredible processors. That is not to say we software engineers need to go down to the nitty gritty assembler level on all our applications like is done in a lot of high end apps (especially games), but that time should be taken to get things right, and not waste proc time/power when reasonably possible.

And even though I'd put Word in the category of apps that make Microsoft look like a decent software company, Word is also one of the most bloated main stream applications out there. Just my 2 cents

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Well, color me impressed (with the Mac Plus). And simultaneously unimpressed (With our advances). This report merely feeds into my paranoia that the power of my computer is being wasted by inefficient programmers.

That said, I'm not unhappy with the performance of my Mac (admittedly Word is slow opening, but 2008 will come out someday).
I agree entirely. The boom in processor power has allowed things like the farming out of coding to foreign countries. New programmers aer interested only in coding something that passes logical tests and completes computational tasks correctly. The only realm in which coders are forced to code efficiently is gaming, and you see very few game houses farming out coding tasks to other countries.
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