Is 1.6Ghz Centrino Faster or slower than 1GHz G4 Pbook?

Rezet · 08:59 PM

1.6Ghz good loaded centrino is $1999.
I might be able to get 1Ghz Pbook for the same price.

I know Pbook is a better machine overall, but as for power, do you think 1Ghz overall can beat or atleast match centrino?
Not trying to mock anything. Just wondering.

mrdeep · Jun 30, 2003, 09:03 PM

Well, a 1.6ghz centrino would be about as fast as a 2.2 or 2.4 p4 (not sure if m or not), which I"m fairly sure would be faster than a 1ghz g4.

iJon · Jun 30, 2003, 09:20 PM

i think its probably faster as well, and proabably better battery life, but thats about it.

iJon

Rezet · Jun 30, 2003, 09:46 PM

I thought Pbooks get better battery life than centrinos. They don't?
I'm preordering Dual G5 for power. But was thinking of geting leptop for mobility. Battery life would be a good thing for mobility

On average, how long does G4 Pbook can go on one charge?
Like with heavy use and light use.
And can ibook relly push out 5 hours?

HOw long does centrino last appx?

BaghdadBob · Jun 30, 2003, 09:46 PM

Really, the Centrino is faster than the P4? Why don't they put it in their desktops then?

NavyIntel007 · Jun 30, 2003, 11:07 PM

Centrino's are only faster than the 2.4 P4 Mobile chips, Not the desktop processor. I'd say that the performance would be comparable. The G4 would probably beat out Centrino in Floating point, Centrino would win in integer. Centrino MIGHT have better battery life.

donigian · Jun 30, 2003, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Really, the Centrino is faster than the P4? Why don't they put it in their desktops then?

The Centrinos are faster than P4s in laptops because they were built from the ground up for mobile computing. P4-Ms and G3s/G4s were first designed for desktop computing were power efficiency were not a priority. The reason a Pentium 4 in a laptop is slower is because the power management in it basically sets the processor speed at 100% or somthing like 20%. The Centrino is variable and provides a better computing experience because it is better designed and suited for mobile computers. Apple should take a page from Intel's book on this one.

iJon · Jul 1, 2003, 12:39 AM

most centrinos get 3 hours at the lowest, 7 as the highest. powerbook is lucky to get 4 max

iJon

daveg5 · Jul 1, 2003, 01:34 AM

www.barefeats.com
i believe they tested it a 2-2.5X faster then the 17" powerbook

daveg5 · Jul 1, 2003, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by daveg5
www.barefeats.com
i believe they tested it a 2-2.5X faster then the 17" powerbook

http://www.barefeats.com/#quick
oops my bad its only 20-100% faster,
sorry folks

praetorian_x · Jul 1, 2003, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by daveg5
http://www.barefeats.com/#quick
oops my bad its only 20-100% faster,
sorry folks

Yeah, its only twice as fast, for $300 less. Thats *nothing*.

: - /

Faster apple. 970 pbs now.

Cheers,
prat

gopher · Jul 1, 2003, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rezet
1.6Ghz good loaded centrino is $1999.
I might be able to get 1Ghz Pbook for the same price.

I know Pbook is a better machine overall, but as for power, do you think 1Ghz overall can beat or atleast match centrino?
Not trying to mock anything. Just wondering.

Much slower than the Powerbook.

Look at these specs:

http://forgetcomputers.com/~jdroz/09.html

Remember the 1 ghz G4 in the Powerbook is about the same as a 933 Mhz G4 and maybe a little faster.

Pete_Hoover · Jul 1, 2003, 10:07 AM

I'm going to say that the PB is slower.

ouketii · Jul 1, 2003, 10:09 AM

hey you know it doesnt really matter what you cram into your laptop, yo uare not going to open it and admire the processor or give cute names to your 802.11 card. it really jsut matters what it lets you do. centrino isn't completely new, it is mostly built from a pentium3. but it gets the job done with long battery life. g4/g3 are desktop procs, not really new, but mac os is hella tight so i don't care.

ouketii · Jul 1, 2003, 10:18 AM

oh, and also, it is the Pentium M chip, not centrino, you should be comparing. centrino is just a marketing name from intel that companies get to slap on if they use the pentium m, the chipset, and intel's old 802.11b card. it cuts out third parties, because you have to use intel stuff to be called centrino. and come on, the centrino marketing is really good, i was in the durham apple store yeserday, and a woman asked if the ibook had centrino. she probably meant wi-fi, which intel markets as internet aywhere (no mention that you need a basestation). umm, end rant now.

Cubeboy · Jul 1, 2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by gopher
Much slower than the Powerbook.

Look at these specs:

http://forgetcomputers.com/~jdroz/09.html

Remember the 1 ghz G4 in the Powerbook is about the same as a 933 Mhz G4 and maybe a little faster.

Hah, thats hilarious, always amusing to read an article in which the author has no idea what he's talking about.

Catfish_Man · Jul 1, 2003, 01:06 PM

Centrino will win. The Pentium-M is a very nice little chip. Low power, efficient, and quick. The reason it's not in desktops is that it doesn't reach high enough clockspeeds (the top one is about equal to a 2.4GHz P4, while the top P4 is 3.2GHz). It also might be more expensive than a P4, I'm not sure. The Powerbook is amazing in other ways, but not performance.

yzedf · Jul 1, 2003, 01:46 PM

Centrino is faster, and the battery will last longer, in most applications.

PB has OS X, and associated apps.

For me, if I was getting the G5 for a desktop (you are), then I would get the PB, just for network compatibility and ease of sharing stuff.

VIREBEL661 · Jul 1, 2003, 02:20 PM

OS X beats the CRAP out of windoze... Maybe the pentium is faster or whatever, but the OS really sucks...

Buy the Mac - you'll be glad you did...

gopher · Jul 1, 2003, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by Cubeboy
Hah, thats hilarious, always amusing to read an article in which the author has no idea what he's talking about.

Umm...that author happens to be one of the formost authorities on why using a Mac is better. And believe it or not the G4 is much
better a CPU than most of Macrumors makes it out to be. I have not seen a Pentium that can hold a candle to my 800 Mhz G4. The software is so much easier to use on a Mac, I save time in the long run.

iJon · Jul 1, 2003, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopher
Umm...that author happens to be one of the formost authorities on why using a Mac is better. And believe it or not the G4 is much
better a CPU than most of Macrumors makes it out to be. I have not seen a Pentium that can hold a candle to my 800 Mhz G4. The software is so much easier to use on a Mac, I save time in the long run.

you say its a good chip but then turn around and say how it has good software. the g4 gets spanked by every current intel and amd chip. now the g5, thats a whole nother story, and that story still isnt clear.

iJon

gopher · Jul 1, 2003, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iJon
you say its a good chip but then turn around and say how it has good software. the g4 gets spanked by every current intel and amd chip. now the g5, thats a whole nother story, and that story still isnt clear.

iJon

The G4 does not get spanked by AMD or Intel. Obviously you've been reading PC biased benchmarks. There are times when the G4 is faster and times when the Pentium is faster. But the G4 is faster where it counts because the software you need the speed on is faster on the G4. Any speed issues you are having with a G4 are due to improper maintenance of the computer and these tips will help you out:

http://www.macmaps.com/Macosxspeed.html

iJon · Jul 1, 2003, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopher
The G4 does not get spanked by AMD or Intel. Obviously you've been reading PC biased benchmarks. There are times when the G4 is faster and times when the Pentium is faster. But the G4 is faster where it counts because the software you need the speed on is faster on the G4. Any speed issues you are having with a G4 are due to improper maintenance of the computer and these tips will help you out:

http://www.macmaps.com/Macosxspeed.html

oh i have no speed issures with my g4, i manage macs everyday, and i keep them in line. this is why the g5 is such a great thing for the mac community, because even with apple teaming up 2 processors in their g4, intel was stlil wiping the floor with the g4'w why do you think steve jobs would choose intel over his own beloved g4's down at pixar, because time equals money over there, and g4 couldnt cut it.

iJon

yzedf · Jul 1, 2003, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VIREBEL661
OS X beats the CRAP out of windoze... Maybe the pentium is faster or whatever, but the OS really sucks...

Buy the Mac - you'll be glad you did...

There is more than one OS available to run on the x86 hardware don't ya know...?

PC != MS Windows

ZildjianKX · Jul 1, 2003, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yzedf
There is more than one OS available to run on the x86 hardware don't ya know...?

PC != MS Windows

I can't agree with you more. I hate it when people say PCs suck just because of windows... I dare them to say *nix sucks...

Jun 30, 2003, 08:57 PM	#1
Rezet macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Connecticut, United States of America	Is 1.6Ghz Centrino Faster or slower than 1GHz G4 Pbook? 1.6Ghz good loaded centrino is $1999. I might be able to get 1Ghz Pbook for the same price. I know Pbook is a better machine overall, but as for power, do you think 1Ghz overall can beat or atleast match centrino? Not trying to mock anything. Just wondering. Last edited by Rezet; Jun 30, 2003 at 08:59 PM.
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Jun 30, 2003, 11:07 PM	#6
NavyIntel007 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tampa, FL	Centrino's are only faster than the 2.4 P4 Mobile chips, Not the desktop processor. I'd say that the performance would be comparable. The G4 would probably beat out Centrino in Floating point, Centrino would win in integer. Centrino MIGHT have better battery life. __________________ Fujitsu T4020 iPod Nano 4 GB (RED)
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daveg5 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2001	not good news www.barefeats.com i believe they tested it a 2-2.5X faster then the 17" powerbook
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Jun 30, 2003, 09:03 PM	#2
mrdeep macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2003	Well, a 1.6ghz centrino would be about as fast as a 2.2 or 2.4 p4 (not sure if m or not), which I"m fairly sure would be faster than a 1ghz g4.
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Jun 30, 2003, 09:20 PM	#3
iJon macrumors 604 Join Date: Feb 2002	i think its probably faster as well, and proabably better battery life, but thats about it. iJon
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Jun 30, 2003, 09:46 PM	#4
Rezet Thread Starter macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Connecticut, United States of America	I thought Pbooks get better battery life than centrinos. They don't? I'm preordering Dual G5 for power. But was thinking of geting leptop for mobility. Battery life would be a good thing for mobility On average, how long does G4 Pbook can go on one charge? Like with heavy use and light use. And can ibook relly push out 5 hours? HOw long does centrino last appx?
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Jun 30, 2003, 09:46 PM	#5
BaghdadBob macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gorgeous, WA	Really, the Centrino is faster than the P4? Why don't they put it in their desktops then?
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Jul 1, 2003, 12:39 AM	#8
iJon macrumors 604 Join Date: Feb 2002	most centrinos get 3 hours at the lowest, 7 as the highest. powerbook is lucky to get 4 max iJon
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Jul 1, 2003, 10:09 AM	#14
ouketii macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2003	hey you know it doesnt really matter what you cram into your laptop, yo uare not going to open it and admire the processor or give cute names to your 802.11 card. it really jsut matters what it lets you do. centrino isn't completely new, it is mostly built from a pentium3. but it gets the job done with long battery life. g4/g3 are desktop procs, not really new, but mac os is hella tight so i don't care.
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Jul 1, 2003, 10:18 AM	#15
ouketii macrumors regular Join Date: Mar 2003	oh, and also, it is the Pentium M chip, not centrino, you should be comparing. centrino is just a marketing name from intel that companies get to slap on if they use the pentium m, the chipset, and intel's old 802.11b card. it cuts out third parties, because you have to use intel stuff to be called centrino. and come on, the centrino marketing is really good, i was in the durham apple store yeserday, and a woman asked if the ibook had centrino. she probably meant wi-fi, which intel markets as internet aywhere (no mention that you need a basestation). umm, end rant now.
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Jul 1, 2003, 01:06 PM	#17
Catfish_Man macrumors 68030 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, OR	Centrino will win. The Pentium-M is a very nice little chip. Low power, efficient, and quick. The reason it's not in desktops is that it doesn't reach high enough clockspeeds (the top one is about equal to a 2.4GHz P4, while the top P4 is 3.2GHz). It also might be more expensive than a P4, I'm not sure. The Powerbook is amazing in other ways, but not performance.
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Jul 1, 2003, 01:46 PM	#18
yzedf Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Connecticut	Centrino is faster, and the battery will last longer, in most applications. PB has OS X, and associated apps. For me, if I was getting the G5 for a desktop (you are), then I would get the PB, just for network compatibility and ease of sharing stuff.
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Jul 1, 2003, 02:20 PM	#19
VIREBEL661 macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2003	OS X beats the CRAP out of windoze... Maybe the pentium is faster or whatever, but the OS really sucks... Buy the Mac - you'll be glad you did...
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