MacBook Pro's LED Display Details

MacRumors · 02:10 AM

Today, Apple delivered LED backlit displays to the 15" MacBook Pro. Apple's plan to use LED displays was revealed in May.

Gizmodo was able to get some answers from Apple about the new LED displays:

- The 15" LED MacBook Pros extends battery life 30-60 minutes when compared to the older MacBook Pros. This includes battery savings from the LED itself as well as the new Santa Rosa chipset.
- Instantly at full brightness, no warm-up necessary, unlike traditional LCDs.
- Same brightness and color range.
- Only 15" LED displays currently available, so 17" LEDs will come later.

Our MacBook Pro forums are abuzz with early photos, comments and reactions to the latest MacBook Pro.

gugy · Jun 5, 2007, 10:39 PM

why the 17" did not get LED?

what about ACD, are the next major upgrades have LED?

arn · Jun 5, 2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gugy

why the 17" did not get LED?

From the article

- Only 15" LED displays currently available, so 17" LEDs will come later.

macjaeh · Jun 5, 2007, 10:41 PM

All 17" LED screens are currently being used to prop up the wobbly-legged oak table in Steve Jobs's Kitchen...

weeman · Jun 5, 2007, 10:41 PM

Hmmmm...what about those 13.3" LED screens...

mikeinternet · Jun 5, 2007, 10:43 PM

did this/could this change the thickness of the screen?

mrkramer · Jun 5, 2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeinternet

did this/could this change the thickness of the screen?

IIRC one of the posts in the threads about someone getting one today said that it made it around .02 inches thiner, or some other mostly insignificant change in thickness.

iToaster · Jun 5, 2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by weeman

Hmmmm...what about those 13.3" LED screens...

MacBooks with 7hrs of battery life

weeman · Jun 5, 2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by iToaster

MacBooks with 7hrs of battery life

dont you mean macbook PROS with 7 hours of battery life?

twoodcc · Jun 6, 2007, 12:53 AM

sounds good

nagromme · Jun 5, 2007, 10:59 PM

Also, LED screens will stay brighter longer over the years, not yellowing like conventional fluo LCDs, right? And they won't burn out and go dead as soon?

That's the #1 BIG advantage I've heard of. I like my laptops to stay useful for a long, long time.

Derekasaurus · Jun 5, 2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nagromme

Also, LED screens will stay brighter longer over the years, not yellowing like conventional fluo LCDs, right? And they won't burn out and go dead as soon?

That's the #1 BIG advantage I've heard of. I like my laptops to stay useful for a long, long time.

Perhaps, but I have yet to see a laptop screen go before the machine needs to be updated anyway. Same for stand-alone LCD monitors. I think fading, color shifts, and overall lifetime of current LCD technology is very good, and even conventional displays probably have much more longevity than the computers that drive them. I might be interested in a standalone LED backlight because that might have to survive multiple computer updates, but on a laptop I think it matters less. The power savings and immediate full brightness are more important IMHO.

nagromme · Jun 6, 2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Derekasaurus

Perhaps, but I have yet to see a laptop screen go before the machine needs to be updated anyway.

I have. My PowerBook G3 is a great system for my grandmother... but it has gone so dim that she has to use it with her TV. Meanwhile my primary Mac when traveling is a PowerBook G4 closing in on 4 years old. When I retire it, it will still see occasional use and make a fine mobile DVD player. currently it's not bad, but it IS a bit yellower and noticeably dimmer than when I bought it. And recalibrating to reduce the yellow results in even lower brightness.

A Core 2 Duo today is going to be a great system for many purposes in 5-6 years. I'm glad that now the display will still be bright!

centauratlas · Jun 6, 2007, 07:14 AM

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but I have yet to see a laptop screen go before the machine needs to be updated anyway.

I have a 3.5 year old PB 17 and it is definitely dimmer than when purchased. Likewise, now that it is out of AppleCare, the display flickers. I don't know if it is connection/hinge related, backlight related or something else (any ideas?).

Anyway, the flickering will be what prompts me to get one of the new MBPs. (Excluding the lust factor). It runs perfectly except the display... ;-)

dmw007 · Jun 6, 2007, 07:29 AM

LED Displays, longer battery life, faster processors, more RAM, and a faster video card....

...looks like it might be time to upgrade my 2GHz MacBook Pro.

fairnymph · Jun 6, 2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Derekasaurus

Perhaps, but I have yet to see a laptop screen go before the machine needs to be updated anyway. Same for stand-alone LCD monitors. I think fading, color shifts, and overall lifetime of current LCD technology is very good, and even conventional displays probably have much more longevity than the computers that drive them.

My Silicon Graphics LCD is 8 years old and stills works perfectly, and looks better than anything else I've seen under $4k. No dead pixels, yellowing, or any visible degradation. It is as beautiful as ever.

Like you, for me the appeal of LED lies in decreased power consumption.

raggedjimmi · Jun 6, 2007, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Derekasaurus

Perhaps, but I have yet to see a laptop screen go before the machine needs to be updated anyway.

I was given an IBM laptop that had previously been used in some office (so it's clocked up some serious on time) in 2001. The machine was from 1998 and the monitor is only noticeably yellow now. My PowerBook is 3 years old and it's fine n' dandy too. So I'm in the same boat as you

they do seem to last a long time.

stevejust · Jun 6, 2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nagromme

Also, LED screens will stay brighter longer over the years, not yellowing like conventional fluo LCDs, right? And they won't burn out and go dead as soon?

That's the #1 BIG advantage I've heard of. I like my laptops to stay useful for a long, long time.

Umm... as someone stuck with a Rev A MBP thinking about whether to update to this round, I can't imagine how it could be that a flouro LCD wouldn't outlast the usefulness life of the laptop. And this is coming from someone who kept the last laptop I had for 5 years!

smueboy · Jun 5, 2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Macrumors

- The 15" LED MacBook Pros extends battery life 30-60 minutes when compared to the older MacBook Pros. This includes battery savings from the LED itself as well as the new Santa Rosa chipset.

I'd like to know what benefits to battery life Santa Rosa gives the MBP's.

Evangelion · Jun 6, 2007, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by smueboy

I'd like to know what benefits to battery life Santa Rosa gives the MBP's.

SR is better at lowering the clockspeed of the FSB when it's not being taxed, thus reducing power-consumption.

chillywilly · Jun 6, 2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by smueboy

I'd like to know what benefits to battery life Santa Rosa gives the MBP's.

Me too. That would be a huge advantage to this new model.

Adding another 30-60 mins would be great. Even if running the hard drive and wifi and getting another 20 mins of battery life would be great.

dartzorichalcos · Jun 5, 2007, 11:03 PM

Anybody have a prediction about when the MacBook and the 17" MacBook Pro will get the LED display?

magicbumone · Jun 5, 2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dartzorichalcos

Anybody have a prediction about when the MacBook and the 17" MacBook Pro will get the LED display?

I think the 17" LED's will come out before year end. I don't see the Macbook getting them til next year though.

Pants Dragon · Jun 5, 2007, 11:13 PM

Any details on the new 17" high resolution screens?

samh004 · Jun 5, 2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dartzorichalcos

Anybody have a prediction about when the MacBook and the 17" MacBook Pro will get the LED display?

Quote:

Originally Posted by magicbumone

I think the 17" LED's will come out before year end. I don't see the Macbook getting them til next year though.

I'd of said next year for both, when the MacBook's get SR and the Pro's get the next generation of chips, and thus the lines are split now.

So probably January (MWSF).

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MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	MacBook Pro's LED Display Details Today, Apple delivered LED backlit displays to the 15" MacBook Pro. Apple's plan to use LED displays was revealed in May. Gizmodo was able to get some answers from Apple about the new LED displays: - The 15" LED MacBook Pros extends battery life 30-60 minutes when compared to the older MacBook Pros. This includes battery savings from the LED itself as well as the new Santa Rosa chipset. - Instantly at full brightness, no warm-up necessary, unlike traditional LCDs. - Same brightness and color range. - Only 15" LED displays currently available, so 17" LEDs will come later. Our MacBook Pro forums are abuzz with early photos, comments and reactions to the latest MacBook Pro. Last edited by Doctor Q : Jun 6, 2007 at 02:10 AM.

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