WWDC: iPhone Release Time, Developer Access

[MacRumors]

Apple CEO Steve Jobs announced at the end of the WWDC keynote that the iPhone would be released on June 29th at 6pm at AT&T Wireless and Apple Stores in the United States.

Also announced was that Apple was making it possible for developers to write small, Widget-like programs for the iPhone. A demonstration was given showing a corporate LDAP directory lookup application. All such applications will run within Safari to maintain the security of the iPhone.

The New York Times had previously reported that a developers kit would be forthcoming.

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[Rojo]

6pm in what time zone? All of them?

[zwida]

Originally Posted by Rojo

6pm in what time zone? All of them?

Yeah, they've done this before with other product launches. The stores will have lines out front that will start to be let into the store at 6 (in whatever time zone...).

[mrowl]

Originally Posted by zwida

Yeah, they've done this before with other product launches. The stores will have lines out front that will start to be let into the store at 6 (in whatever time zone...).

like I said in the iphone forum, the at&t stores around here close at 7, but probably not that day.

[sishaw]

It sounds like writing these small, web-based apps for the iPhone will be within reach of not just professional developers, but even users familiar with web standards...am I missing something? Why does no one but me think this is pretty cool?

[DTphonehome]

Originally Posted by sishaw

It sounds like writing these small, web-based apps for the iPhone will be within reach of not just professional developers, but even users familiar with web standards...am I missing something? Why does no one but me think this is pretty cool?

Myabe useful for teeny little apps that you use rarely, but even then you need to have a server and bandwidth to host that app for all your users. And if it becomes popular, you're stuck footing the bill for massive traffic. Plus, you can't develop huge, fast programs if you're dependent on a 2.5g web connection. This is super lame.

[ruckus]

Originally Posted by sishaw

It sounds like writing these small, web-based apps for the iPhone will be within reach of not just professional developers, but even users familiar with web standards...am I missing something? Why does no one but me think this is pretty cool?

Its fine, but not the "end all solution". I want power. The ability to write applications compiled for the architecture. I'd even take java, which is very secure and has been running on portable devices for years. This power could be utilized for games and all kinds of interesting things...

[iJed]

Originally Posted by sishaw

It sounds like writing these small, web-based apps for the iPhone will be within reach of not just professional developers, but even users familiar with web standards...am I missing something? Why does no one but me think this is pretty cool?

Because the iPhone is running cut down Mac OS X! Access to this would let developers create much more advanced applications than are possible through web technologies.

This is a sorry excuse for allowing third party developers in. I really wanted to buy an iPhone too . I think Apple is making a serious mistake here.

[123]

Originally Posted by sishaw

It sounds like writing these small, web-based apps for the iPhone will be within reach of not just professional developers, but even users familiar with web standards...am I missing something? Why does no one but me think this is pretty cool?

Yes, you're missing something. The developer now needs a running application server + bandwidth for any app. The user needs to be connected permanently. And AJAX sucks.

[macjackpro]

Because unless I misunderstood something, they didn't say anything. Translation: want an app to be on the iPhone. Well, it's got a web browser, so if you write a web-based app, then, umm, people can browse it.

Well no sh*t Sherlock...erm...I mean Watson.

Oh, and one more thing. We have safari on windows now, so you don't need a mac...erm...where are we again...this isn't a web develper's conference.

Why even say anything. Surely I must be missing something. When is the video gonna be up. Maybe it got all fracked up in traslation.

Not hating here, just confused. Safari on Windows and writing web apps that work with safari is not, in my opinion, a "one more thing" announcement, that's all I'm sayin'.

Originally Posted by sishaw

It sounds like writing these small, web-based apps for the iPhone will be within reach of not just professional developers, but even users familiar with web standards...am I missing something? Why does no one but me think this is pretty cool?

[mudaudio]

the 14 year old kid that's spent a few too many nights reading up on web 2.0 stumbles across an idea for a super simple app that's going to change the world. He knocks it up within a few days and becomes a hero.

meanwhile, 'professional software developers' across the land remain void of any new ideas. They still cant get past the fact they didn't get an SDK at WWDC, and are wondering why Apple betrayed them so by dipping into the lowly waters of the web.



I don't know much, but I think this is great news.

Tight integration with Google services (including YouTube), perhaps extending this to .Mac / iWork syncing, and it's quite a neat device. For me at least.

[twoodcc]

Originally Posted by Rojo

6pm in what time zone? All of them?

that's what i was wondering

[DTphonehome]

Web 2.0 + AJAX apps???? Steve, I f-ing hate you, I'm down $12k today because the market is obviously very unimpressed with this half-assed (nay, quarter-assed) third-party development option.

[ruckus]

Web 2.0 and AJAX? That is the solution? C'mon. That is just lame. If that is all you've got then I'm very disappointed. Guess its more of a phone than a smart phone. Looks like I won't be camping out for one.

[maccam]

That was so STUPID!!!!! GET A LIFE STEVE!!!!!!

[starflyer]

Originally Posted by ruckus

Web 2.0 and AJAX? That is the solution? C'mon. That is just lame. If that is all you've got then I'm very disappointed. Guess its more of a phone than a smart phone. Looks like I won't be camping out for one.

OOOO! Just a better chance that I will get one

[bfineman]

Originally Posted by DTphonehome

Web 2.0 + AJAX apps???? Steve, I f-ing hate you, I'm down $12k today because the market is obviously very unimpressed with this half-assed (nay, quarter-assed) third-party development option.

I'm sorry if I don't feel pity for comments like this. If you lost $12K on Apple today as you suggest, at a loss of $4 per share you own around 3000 shares. Assuming you bought at least one year ago when the cost was around $60/share or less, you've gained at least $180,000 since then...even after today's dip.

/tiny violin

[dadrop]

Originally Posted by bfineman

I'm sorry if I don't feel pity for comments like this. If you lost $12K on Apple today as you suggest, at a loss of $4 per share you own around 3000 shares. Assuming you bought at least one year ago when the cost was around $60/share or less, you've gained at least $180,000 since then...even after today's dip.

/tiny violin

thanks for the perspective! I wish I had 360,000 f'n dollars worth of apple stock.

[greg6028]

I would have to think that Jobs knows that today’s keynote was lame. So I wonder if there is more to come - you know its Tuesday tomorrow!!???
Remember earlier this year there was a report that today’s Keynote was going to be, I think, 3 hours long. If he introduced new iMac, iTunes HD and new .mac services, it could have been that long. So maybe he will announce more products/services yet this week?
I just can't figure that Steve is going to leave WWDC07 with this lame keynote. He has to have something else up his sleeve!
So far the biggest highlight since MacWorld is D5!! What gives!

[kalisphoenix]

Originally Posted by DTphonehome

Steve, I f-ing hate you, I'm down $12k today because the market is obviously very unimpressed with this half-assed (nay, quarter-assed) third-party development option.

What a c**t.

[penguino]

Originally Posted by DTphonehome

Web 2.0 + AJAX apps???? Steve, I f-ing hate you, I'm down $12k today because the market is obviously very unimpressed with this half-assed (nay, quarter-assed) third-party development option.

Seems like if you're down $12K today you have 3,000 shares, which would have increased in value from about $24K to $360K on Steve Jobs' watch since '02. Can you explain to me again why you "f-ing hate" him?

Nice language too. Need to wash your mouth out with Simple Object Access Protocol.

[Maccus Aurelius]

I was gonna buy a Macbook Pro this week...but I may reconsider, as I'd hate to be lynched by picketing fans that are undoubtedly encroaching upon the glass Fifth Avenue cube, with sharpened sticks and salad forks in hand, salivating with power ties wrapped around their heads.

[itcheroni]

Originally Posted by penguino

Seems like if you're down $12K today you have 3,000 shares, which would have increased in value from about $24K to $360K on Steve Jobs' watch since '02. Can you explain to me again why you "f-ing hate" him?

Nice language too. Need to wash your mouth out with Simple Object Access Protocol.

He bought options rather than outright shares. It's too risky of a move for me. Whenever Apple has an announcement, the stock either goes up or down. And since they're so tightlipped, there's really no way of knowing. So the smart thing to do, if you've got the cash, is to hold Aapl. If it goes up, great. But if it goes down, use it as a buying opportunity(to buy even more shares) because it'll eventually correct itself. The rewards are smaller, but it's a lot safer. That being said, if the stock went the other way today, DTphonehome would have raked it in.

[bross00]

Originally Posted by DTphonehome

Web 2.0 + AJAX apps???? Steve, I f-ing hate you, I'm down $12k today because the market is obviously very unimpressed with this half-assed (nay, quarter-assed) third-party development option.

12k?! So - apple closed 3.47% down. You have 12000//3.47% = ~340k invested in Apple. I hope with that much money invested in one stock you realize there will be risk, fluctuations, etc. Hate Steve; but you're the one who put so many eggs in one basket.

[DTphonehome]

Originally Posted by bross00

12k?! So - apple closed 3.47% down. You have 12000//3.47% = ~340k invested in Apple. I hope with that much money invested in one stock you realize there will be risk, fluctuations, etc. Hate Steve; but you're the one who put so many eggs in one basket.

A lot of people here seem to be awfully good at math, but know nothing about any type of investment tool other than owning shares in a company.