iPhone without camera??

riddlebox · Jul 1, 2007, 02:36 PM

I would buy an iPhone if I could get it without a camera. I can not have a camera on my phone due work restrictions

So for now I will keep my blackberry 7130.

WillJS · Jul 1, 2007, 02:36 PM

Tape it up or something. Try to hide it.

riddlebox · Jul 1, 2007, 02:41 PM

Tape won't make it past a security check. The phone has to approved be for I can bring it to work. Even if I remove the camera It may look like a camera is still there, This is retarded I know.

WillJS · Jul 1, 2007, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riddlebox

Tape won't make it past a security check. The phone has to approved be for I can bring it to work. Even if I remove the camera It may look like a camera is still there, This is retarded I know.

Wow. That really stinks man. Sorry.

Boxer · Jul 1, 2007, 02:46 PM

Sorry if this is a dumb comment but I bet there is a way you could ask apple tech or att tech support to disable the camera part. Maybe your work would let you use it if they knew it was disabled.
Just a thought.

BornAgainMac · Jul 1, 2007, 02:53 PM

I would be curious if you walked in with a tripod without a camera. Sorry you have to deal with that restriction at work.

gr8tfly · Jul 1, 2007, 02:55 PM

My wife has the same problem at her company - it's for their DOD security compliance. They can make exceptions, if "needed" though. I bet as soon as some of the execs want to bring their iPhones in, something will happen. A lot of them have Blackberrys, and even if they stick with those, the latest models have cameras.

When I used to work there (1998), it had only been a year or two that cell phones of any kind were allowed (under "no transmitting devices"). I was among the first to get an exception to bring it in - I had to use the rational of always traveling between sites, to even get that much.

riddlebox · Jul 1, 2007, 03:13 PM

Even if the camera is disabled or removed it will not pass thru security (DOD/DOE). Like I said this is retarded. As for exception they not are allowed for any reason. Its only been about 2 years phones are allowed on site. The phones have to be registered thru security and we have to have a sticker on the phone to show that it is a registered device. Maybe I would be better off just getting a different job,

riddlebox · Jul 2, 2007, 03:52 PM

I have now called:
Apple
AT&T
local AT&T stores

Just to bug them and show an interest. Any one want to help me and call Apple and AT&T to request a no camera option??? I have also found out the the following companies/locations do not allow cameras at there sites as well

caterpillar
Nissan (headquarters are now in Tennessee)
I can only assume more auto companies plants as well (GM, Ford, Dodge...)
John Deere
Many Department of Defense/Department of Energy research sites
I can only assume that this would include the pentagon or at least parts of it,
Many Courts are banning camera phones/ Law firms as well.

Any guess on how many people on that short list that excludes from getting a phone with a camera.

Please help me add to this list to show an large number of people that are currently unable to get the iPhone or even a decent phone due to cameras.

Thanks

princealfie · Jul 2, 2007, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riddlebox

I have now called:
Apple
AT&T
local AT&T stores

Just to bug them and show an interest. Any one want to help me and call Apple and AT&T to request a no camera option??? I have also found out the the following companies/locations do not allow cameras at there sites as well

caterpillar
Nissan (headquarters are now in Tennessee)
I can only assume more auto companies plants as well (GM, Ford, Dodge...)
John Deere
Many Department of Defense/Department of Energy research sites
I can only assume that this would include the pentagon or at least parts of it,
Many Courts are banning camera phones/ Law firms as well.

Any guess on how many people on that short list that excludes from getting a phone with a camera.

Please help me add to this list to show an large number of people that are currently unable to get the iPhone or even a decent phone due to cameras.

Thanks

Nice that's all of the places I graciously avoid!!!

ZBoater · Jul 2, 2007, 04:21 PM

Maybe the iPhone sim card will work on a cheapy, approved phone, and you can swap SIM cards when you go to work.

Just a thought...

Private Sector · Jul 2, 2007, 05:44 PM

there's lots of jobs out there...

lord patton · Jul 2, 2007, 06:03 PM

Well, there are around 2 million Americans with some security clearance, so you'll have no trouble finding some people in your same shoes. Even outside of official DOD and DOE installations, all the defense contractors have "secure" sites... Northrop Grumman, Ratheon, Boeing, Lockheed... they employ a lot of people.

But I really doubt Apple will listen.

korndog2003 · Jul 2, 2007, 06:08 PM

Just a thought leave phone in car?

gauchogolfer · Jul 2, 2007, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord patton

Well, there are around 2 million Americans with some security clearance, so you'll have no trouble finding some people in your same shoes. Even outside of official DOD and DOE installations, all the defense contractors have "secure" sites... Northrop Grumman, Ratheon, Boeing, Lockheed... they employ a lot of people.

But I really doubt Apple will listen.

I work at a defense contractor, and it was just a year ago that we could have camera phones at work. The justification being, try finding a phone without one. Nigh impossible.

We still can't have computers with integrated webcams, that's for sure. So even if we weren't Windows-centric it would eliminate a large fraction of Apple options for us.

riddlebox · Jul 2, 2007, 06:57 PM

I do doubt apple will listen as graphics/video seems to be there biggest interest. hence running games on my mac works so well

As for leaving it in the car, I'm in the north-east temp ranges from 90 to 10 below, this would kill the battery almost every day, and cameras are not even allowed in the parking lot.

The security would rather nobody have a phone than allow personal responsibility with a phone.

But... i will keep hoping.

Thanks for the comments thou

gr8tfly · Jul 2, 2007, 07:05 PM

I was just told today that Raytheon, in particular, now allows cam phones. Of course, one should check with their security dept., if unsure of exact policies.

riddlebox · Jul 2, 2007, 07:13 PM

Good to know. I'm sure in the end I will get my iPhone, just not take it to work

. I'm going to start checking with security about this problem and try to get as many at work to do the same. But I know that will get know where.

fishkorp · Jul 2, 2007, 07:34 PM

Apple doesn't cater to specific needs for secure sites, government or otherwise. there are plenty of government agencies that use Apple products but have to butcher them in-house to make them work for the (physically take a laptop apart to disable iSight, WiFi, bluetooth, etc). if they won't make the federal government a computer without a camera, what makes you think they'll make a phone without a camera?

you're just going to have to live without bringing it in. most of these types of facilities don't allow phones at all, so consider yourself lucky if you can even bring one.

aymr · Jul 2, 2007, 08:16 PM

Just read of a place that will remove a camera from the iPhone for $100.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/07/...amera.removal/

Hope that might help!

Aym

riddlebox · Jul 3, 2007, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aymr

Just read of a place that will remove a camera from the iPhone for $100.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/07/...amera.removal/

Hope that might help!

Aym

Thanks! I'm going to check with work about this.

billchase2 · Jul 4, 2007, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aymr

Just read of a place that will remove a camera from the iPhone for $100.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/07/...amera.removal/

Hope that might help!

Aym

i was just gonna post this. you beat me to it!

secboy · Jul 9, 2008, 07:47 AM

Block Camera?? See www.securephone.se, quite old list of supported phones but today they support all symbian, microsoft and some iPhones.

v-roc · Jul 9, 2008, 09:06 AM

What if you were to find someone who could make you a new back housing that blocks the camera part. That way if you quit the job you can replace the housing back to the original housing... Just a thought.

Jeremy1026 · Jul 9, 2008, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v-roc

What if you were to find someone who could make you a new back housing that blocks the camera part. That way if you quit the job you can replace the housing back to the original housing... Just a thought.

That would be a potential option, and easy if he stuck with the 2G model. Swap the back from an iPod touch with the back of an original iPhone.

Jul 1, 2007, 02:36 PM	#1
riddlebox macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2007	iPhone without camera?? I would buy an iPhone if I could get it without a camera. I can not have a camera on my phone due work restrictions So for now I will keep my blackberry 7130.
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Jul 1, 2007, 02:36 PM	#2
WillJS macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jan 2007	Tape it up or something. Try to hide it. __________________ 2011 Macbook Pro - 2.2GHz - 8GB - 750GB - Glossy
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Jul 1, 2007, 02:46 PM	#5
Boxer macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Overland Park Kansas	Sorry if this is a dumb comment but I bet there is a way you could ask apple tech or att tech support to disable the camera part. Maybe your work would let you use it if they knew it was disabled. Just a thought. __________________ 2.33 MBP 2GB 120 20'' Apple Cinema Display Wireless Apple Keyboard Wireless Mighty Mouse iCurve New Ipod Nano Silver 2GB
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Jul 1, 2007, 02:55 PM	#7
gr8tfly macrumors 601 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ~119W 34N	My wife has the same problem at her company - it's for their DOD security compliance. They can make exceptions, if "needed" though. I bet as soon as some of the execs want to bring their iPhones in, something will happen. A lot of them have Blackberrys, and even if they stick with those, the latest models have cameras. When I used to work there (1998), it had only been a year or two that cell phones of any kind were allowed (under "no transmitting devices"). I was among the first to get an exception to bring it in - I had to use the rational of always traveling between sites, to even get that much. __________________ Macs from 1984 to 15" MBP w/ Retina Display 768GB SSD 16GB RAM, from Newton to iPhone 4 S⃣ , iPods, and tv (3). 64GB Wifi iPad (3)
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Jul 2, 2007, 06:03 PM	#13
lord patton macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago	Well, there are around 2 million Americans with some security clearance, so you'll have no trouble finding some people in your same shoes. Even outside of official DOD and DOE installations, all the defense contractors have "secure" sites... Northrop Grumman, Ratheon, Boeing, Lockheed... they employ a lot of people. But I really doubt Apple will listen. __________________ PC:Mac::Public School:Montessori
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Jul 1, 2007, 02:41 PM	#3
riddlebox Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2007	Tape won't make it past a security check. The phone has to approved be for I can bring it to work. Even if I remove the camera It may look like a camera is still there, This is retarded I know.
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Jul 1, 2007, 02:53 PM	#6
BornAgainMac macrumors 601 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Resident	I would be curious if you walked in with a tripod without a camera. Sorry you have to deal with that restriction at work.
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Jul 1, 2007, 03:13 PM	#8
riddlebox Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2007	Even if the camera is disabled or removed it will not pass thru security (DOD/DOE). Like I said this is retarded. As for exception they not are allowed for any reason. Its only been about 2 years phones are allowed on site. The phones have to be registered thru security and we have to have a sticker on the phone to show that it is a registered device. Maybe I would be better off just getting a different job,
	0

Jul 2, 2007, 03:52 PM	#9
riddlebox Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2007	I have now called: Apple AT&T local AT&T stores Just to bug them and show an interest. Any one want to help me and call Apple and AT&T to request a no camera option??? I have also found out the the following companies/locations do not allow cameras at there sites as well caterpillar Nissan (headquarters are now in Tennessee) I can only assume more auto companies plants as well (GM, Ford, Dodge...) John Deere Many Department of Defense/Department of Energy research sites I can only assume that this would include the pentagon or at least parts of it, Many Courts are banning camera phones/ Law firms as well. Any guess on how many people on that short list that excludes from getting a phone with a camera. Please help me add to this list to show an large number of people that are currently unable to get the iPhone or even a decent phone due to cameras. Thanks
	0

Jul 2, 2007, 04:21 PM	#11
ZBoater macrumors 601 Join Date: Jul 2007	Maybe the iPhone sim card will work on a cheapy, approved phone, and you can swap SIM cards when you go to work. Just a thought...
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Jul 2, 2007, 05:44 PM	#12
Private Sector macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2007	there's lots of jobs out there...
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Jul 2, 2007, 06:08 PM	#14
korndog2003 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Keyser, WV, USA	Just a thought leave phone in car?
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Jul 2, 2007, 06:57 PM	#16
riddlebox Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2007	I do doubt apple will listen as graphics/video seems to be there biggest interest. hence running games on my mac works so well As for leaving it in the car, I'm in the north-east temp ranges from 90 to 10 below, this would kill the battery almost every day, and cameras are not even allowed in the parking lot. The security would rather nobody have a phone than allow personal responsibility with a phone. But... i will keep hoping. Thanks for the comments thou
	0

Jul 2, 2007, 07:05 PM	#17
gr8tfly macrumors 601 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ~119W 34N	I was just told today that Raytheon, in particular, now allows cam phones. Of course, one should check with their security dept., if unsure of exact policies. __________________ Macs from 1984 to 15" MBP w/ Retina Display 768GB SSD 16GB RAM, from Newton to iPhone 4 S⃣ , iPods, and tv (3). 64GB Wifi iPad (3)
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Jul 2, 2007, 07:13 PM	#18
riddlebox Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2007	Good to know. I'm sure in the end I will get my iPhone, just not take it to work . I'm going to start checking with security about this problem and try to get as many at work to do the same. But I know that will get know where.
	0

Jul 2, 2007, 07:34 PM	#19
fishkorp macrumors 68000 Join Date: Apr 2006	Apple doesn't cater to specific needs for secure sites, government or otherwise. there are plenty of government agencies that use Apple products but have to butcher them in-house to make them work for the (physically take a laptop apart to disable iSight, WiFi, bluetooth, etc). if they won't make the federal government a computer without a camera, what makes you think they'll make a phone without a camera? you're just going to have to live without bringing it in. most of these types of facilities don't allow phones at all, so consider yourself lucky if you can even bring one.
	0

Jul 2, 2007, 08:16 PM	#20
aymr macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2007	Just read of a place that will remove a camera from the iPhone for $100. http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/07/...amera.removal/ Hope that might help! Aym
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Jul 9, 2008, 07:47 AM	#23
secboy macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2008	Block Camera?? See www.securephone.se, quite old list of supported phones but today they support all symbian, microsoft and some iPhones.
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Jul 9, 2008, 09:06 AM	#24
v-roc macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2008	New housing??? What if you were to find someone who could make you a new back housing that blocks the camera part. That way if you quit the job you can replace the housing back to the original housing... Just a thought.
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