iPhone: Vodafone, T-Mobile Carriers, and Ringtones?

MacRumors · 07:30 PM

A few tidbits coming out about iPhone hacking/modification efforts. The full file listing for the iPhone has been found, and a few interesting tidbits can be gleaned from the files:

Besides AT&T and Cingular, there are logo images for T-Mobile and Vodafone in the iPhone's file system.

Quote:

Default_CARRIER_ATT.png
Default_CARRIER_CINGULAR.png
Default_CARRIER_TMOBILE.png
Default_CARRIER_VODAFONE.png

Both Vodafone and T-Mobile are heavily rumored to be Apple's mobile partners in Europe/Germany. No other carrier's images are included.

Apple appears to be storing Ringtones as unprotected AACs (m4a) in a "Ringtones" directory on the iPhone:

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/Library/Ringtones
/Library/Ringtones/Alarm.m4a
/Library/Ringtones/Ascending.m4a
/Library/Ringtones/Bark.m4a
/Library/Ringtones/Bell Tower.m4a
....

This suggests that adding custom ringtones would be as easy as copying AACs into the appropriate directory. There had been rumors that Apple would be incorporating Ringtone functionality in iTunes for the iPhone.

RedDragon870503 · Jul 4, 2007, 05:20 PM

Interesting... any chance that is T-Mobile in USA?

mattthemutt · Jul 4, 2007, 05:21 PM

But no Rogers Canada logos yet...

daze · Jul 4, 2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mattthemutt

But no Rogers Canada logos yet...

I was gonna say that. :P

JeffDM · Jul 4, 2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDragon870503

Interesting... any chance that is T-Mobile in USA?

Probably not, I'm thinking it is T-M in Europe if I heard right that they are there. Given Apple's tendency towards secrecy, I think it is a little silly to have those carrier identity images on the device if the carriers haven't been announced. They could have been added later on appropriate updates.

cliffjumper68 · Jul 5, 2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDragon870503

Interesting... any chance that is T-Mobile in USA?

If T-mobile Norway has them, then it would be easy to hack it for use on T-mobile USA.

IEatApples · Jul 6, 2007, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cliffjumper68

If T-mobile Norway has them, then it would be easy to hack it for use on T-mobile USA.

Err??? I'm pretty sure T-Mobile 'DON'T' operate in Norway… (am I wrong?)

IEatApples · Jul 4, 2007, 05:21 PM

I'm still hoping it will come to Norway…

T-Mobile & Vodafone don't operate in Norway…

locovaca · Jul 4, 2007, 05:24 PM

In the spirit of Spaceballs:

"Keep hacking %#$holes!"

Good thing that totally secure platform thing worked out

inkswamp · Jul 4, 2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by locovaca

In the spirit of Spaceballs:

"Keep hacking %#$holes!"

Good thing that totally secure platform thing worked out

No piece of hardware, including Macs running OS X, is secure when a hacker has physical access to it so why the sarcasm? The iPhone has yet to show any signs of viruses or remote exploits which is obviously what Apple means by security.

rob@robburns.co · Jul 4, 2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by locovaca

Good thing that totally secure platform thing worked out

Quote:

Originally Posted by inkswamp

No piece of hardware, including Macs running OS X, is secure when a hacker has physical access to it so why the sarcasm? The iPhone has yet to show any signs of viruses or remote exploits which is obviously what Apple means by security.

To be fair, Microsoft has most of the world thinking security means the computer is locked from the user and open to everyone else. Obviously Apple's approach is backwards when looked at from that point-of-view.

mbear · Jul 4, 2007, 05:24 PM

Says it all really... sounds like a done deal in the EU

Romanesq · Jul 4, 2007, 05:24 PM

Uh nope, no chance. It's called a contract and it's with AT&T.

But good to hear that the ringtones can't be far off. That should make some people happy who are adamant about it.

xUKHCx · Jul 4, 2007, 05:28 PM

I'll repost my counter from this thread

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Originally Posted by xUKHCx

Well these files can easily be altered with a software update so just because it is on there at the moment doesn't necessarily mean that these will be the providers. And if this were indeed the case it means that apple knew the European carriers before the iPhone was released which is contrary to the information which is currently flying around the internet.

Sverkel · Jul 4, 2007, 05:29 PM

Well that is nice to hear that Vodaphone is in the race also... The Danish TDC is working and selling product's from Vodaphone, so I guess they will be selling iPhone in Denmark

bilbo--baggins · Jul 4, 2007, 05:36 PM

Interesting. I will be a disappointment if it's only GPRS in the UK though - neither Vodafone or T-mobile have EDGE here. You might argue that's all the more reason for making it 3G but I just have a bad feeling that that isn't going to happen for the initiall European relase.

Furgster · Jul 4, 2007, 05:46 PM

ooo, i really want to use my own ringtones

blaaat · Jul 4, 2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bilbo--baggins

Interesting. I will be a disappointment if it's only GPRS in the UK though - neither Vodafone or T-mobile have EDGE here. You might argue that's all the more reason for making it 3G but I just have a bad feeling that that isn't going to happen for the initiall European relase.

If providers have to do changes in their network anyway (read: visual voicemail). EDGE doesn't require new GSM hardware like UMTS/HSPDA does, so roll-out could be done with a 'firmware' upgrade, and 100% immediately.
Apple could ask the providers to do that!

Virtualball · Jul 4, 2007, 05:36 PM

It is unknown at this time if we are able to repackage the altered file system (with a new Ringtone) and reencrypt it and then allow iTunes to restore it to the iPhone. But it's getting close!

jonatron · Jul 4, 2007, 06:28 PM

You gotta trust the times surely!

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle2028678.ece

emotion · Jul 4, 2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jonatron

You gotta trust the times surely!

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle2028678.ece

I need to see that reported somewhere I trust

I suspect O2 suck less than AT&T. Do they have EDGE in the UK though?

studentmac · Jul 4, 2007, 06:38 PM

That is great news! I have been with O2 quite a while and couldnt be happier.

emotion · Jul 4, 2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by studentmac

That is great news! I have been with O2 quite a while and couldnt be happier.

If it is O2 it's not EDGE then. Either it's GPRS or 3G.

I've looked into this and Orange are the network with an EDGE network, conceived as a backup plan in case 3G didn't work out.

More news (similar source to above though):

http://tinyurl.com/39thd3

Donnacha · Jul 4, 2007, 06:50 PM

Hmm, despite all I wrote above about Vodafone - and I do still think that their recent price-slashing was part of the bid to woo Apple - I have now read the article in The Times and, I have to say, it feels right: Vodafone were the favorite but O2 were more desperate and willing to cede more to Apple.

Yeah, at the final hour, it's O2.

emotion · Jul 4, 2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnacha

Yeah, at the final hour, it's O2.

I wanna see the press release first before I believe.

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Romanesq macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hoboken	t-mobile USA Uh nope, no chance. It's called a contract and it's with AT&T. But good to hear that the ringtones can't be far off. That should make some people happy who are adamant about it. __________________ We are one of the largest muslim countries. (However we are not a Christian country.) Praise Obama!

Jul 4, 2007, 05:29 PM	#15
Sverkel macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Denmark	Nice one :D Well that is nice to hear that Vodaphone is in the race also... The Danish TDC is working and selling product's from Vodaphone, so I guess they will be selling iPhone in Denmark

Jul 4, 2007, 05:24 PM	#9
locovaca macrumors regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC	In the spirit of Spaceballs: "Keep hacking %#$holes!" Good thing that totally secure platform thing worked out

Jul 4, 2007, 05:24 PM	#12
mbear macrumors newbie Join Date: Sep 2006	Says it all really... sounds like a done deal in the EU

Jul 4, 2007, 05:36 PM	#16
bilbo--baggins macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK	Interesting. I will be a disappointment if it's only GPRS in the UK though - neither Vodafone or T-mobile have EDGE here. You might argue that's all the more reason for making it 3G but I just have a bad feeling that that isn't going to happen for the initiall European relase.

Jul 4, 2007, 05:46 PM	#17
Furgster macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2007	ooo, i really want to use my own ringtones

Jul 4, 2007, 05:36 PM	#19
Virtualball macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2006	It is unknown at this time if we are able to repackage the altered file system (with a new Ringtone) and reencrypt it and then allow iTunes to restore it to the iPhone. But it's getting close!

Jul 4, 2007, 06:28 PM	#20
jonatron macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Leeds, UK	Its o2 in the uk apparently! You gotta trust the times surely! http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle2028678.ece

Jul 4, 2007, 06:38 PM	#22
studentmac macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bedfordshire, UK	That is great news! I have been with O2 quite a while and couldnt be happier.

Jul 4, 2007, 06:50 PM	#24
Donnacha macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2006	Hmm, despite all I wrote above about Vodafone - and I do still think that their recent price-slashing was part of the bid to woo Apple - I have now read the article in The Times and, I have to say, it feels right: Vodafone were the favorite but O2 were more desperate and willing to cede more to Apple. Yeah, at the final hour, it's O2.

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