Poll: What percentage of your iTunes library was Legally obtained?

MacRumors · Jul 22, 2003, 12:30 AM

Vote: Poll: What percentage of your iTunes library was Legally obtained?

maradong · Jul 22, 2003, 12:50 AM

about 98 is legal ;-)
there are some really old tracks, of music made in the 20 th, i ve never found in a store. so i had to use those out of edonkey

BaghdadBob · Jul 22, 2003, 12:55 AM

Man, I hope these results get better as the sample gets larger. Pretty sad so far.

I was 100%, but for special cases I would hope the vast majority would at least be in the next tier down.

Flowbee · Jul 22, 2003, 01:04 AM

Yeah, I think the second to the top tier is a little too broad. I'm probably 95% legal and don't much like being lumped in with people who are only 68% legal.

BaghdadBob · Jul 22, 2003, 01:13 AM

Yeah, I mean, 68% legal is like 12.24, and 95% is over 17. The two just can't be judged in the same category.

iJon · Jul 22, 2003, 01:13 AM

probably less than thirty. although it is growing slowly with apples solution.

iJon

MrMacMan · Jul 22, 2003, 01:35 AM

You see I have a dilemma.
I said the one that has 50% in it, but its weird most of the tracks I got illegally I went out and bought the CD afterwards and just never re-imported them into my computer (why wait the time?) so it would be much, much higher.

noverflow · Jul 22, 2003, 01:48 AM

i have 16 out of my 2900+ songs... so i could not say 100% ...sad...

Bunzi2k4 · Jul 22, 2003, 02:09 AM

well does borrowing your friends cd's count? if that counts, i'm at about 94% legal. The only downloaded mp3's are the ones i got from stepmania (if that counts) and some j-pop.

mac15 · Jul 22, 2003, 02:38 AM

arrest me I'm like 30% legal

tazo · Jul 22, 2003, 02:40 AM

less than 10%

MacBandit · Jul 22, 2003, 02:44 AM

Back when I was po and lived on campus with a ethernet connection to a dual-T1 line I had 10s of thousands of pirated music. Since then I have had a decent job and a fiancé that likes to buy music. Out of the 1779 songs I have on my computer maybe 10 of them are from a friend or something. I don't keep all my music on my computer but that may change I have a 160GB drive coming to add to the 80GB I have already in the computer.

job · Jul 22, 2003, 03:03 AM

About 70%.

I still have all of my legit CDs (near 75.)

rickvanr · Jul 22, 2003, 03:03 AM

define illegal.

i download unreleased songs, and live stuff... is that illegal?

maradong · Jul 22, 2003, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Man, I hope these results get better as the sample gets larger. Pretty sad so far.

I was 100%, but for special cases I would hope the vast majority would at least be in the next tier down.

yeah.
but well i would hacve voted >95% or >90% but that form wasn t there. 66-99% is just a real big difference. to big for a good vote. i would have done it with 0-10 11-19 20 - 29 ... and so on.

gerror · Jul 22, 2003, 03:36 AM

Since the prices here in the Netherlands are soo high, I have a lot of illigal music. But nowI have a eMusic account I downloaded a lot of legal music and I occasionally buy a cd. Mostly of smaller bands.
I once read a quote from Dave Grohl (Nirvana, Foo Fighters) who said he didn't care about downloading 'because he already has enough money'.
I think it hits the smaller bands more than the big ones.

niar · 03:41 AM

I have 33% transferred from my old tapes - that's illegal!?

arn · Jul 22, 2003, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by niar
I have 33% transferred from my old tapes - that's illegal!?

I don't think so.

arn

MacBandit · Jul 22, 2003, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by arn
I don't think so.

arn

I agree, I think it falls under the fair use laws which allow you to transfer the audio/video content from one media to another as long as the original media doesn't have some form of encryption such as DVDs.

billyboy · Jul 22, 2003, 04:09 AM

The illegal stuff is a couple of CDs full of MP3s from a mates trip down Kazaa´s "dont pay as you go" shopping mall. Nothing compared to my overall collection, but it puts me in the overly large second band.

I use MP3.com to stream and download legally. My PC pirate friends are amazed I wont pirate, and even more amazed that it is possible to find good music legally on the internet. I hope Apples iTMS has some element of the streaming service because it is a great way of downloading say 150 unknown tracks into a playlist in one click, and then previewing on a loop. It is amazing the difference in quality of some streams - again lets hope Apples monitoring of independent artists´ material stops the chancers from posting cheaply engineered examples of what is often quite good music.

caveman_uk · Jul 22, 2003, 05:01 AM

I'm about 98% legal. I've got the odd Kazaa'd song that I wouldn't buy a whole album for but I really like the song...mostly it's old stuff. Stuff I'd probs buy from the iTMS if I could use it

I've also got some stuff from Kazaa that I own the album on vinyl but I can't be bothered to figure out how to rip it from vinyl and I sure ain't buying it again. So technically yes I stole the DIGITAL version but I have a perfectly legal analogue version.

LordMord · Jul 22, 2003, 05:27 AM

i have just over 12k songs on my library and like 10 or so may be downloads. I hate to get the crap quality ruining my beutifully sounding collection!

SO, I have to vote with the 67-99% crowd...ouch

thinking about it...I should have voted 100% I think...oh well.

peterjhill · Jul 22, 2003, 06:18 AM

Over 4700 songs, 100% legal

fixyourthinking · Jul 22, 2003, 07:47 AM

Not wanting to get into a flame war or arguement with any one who is hard headed over the issue, but P2P promotion and sharing of music is NOT considered illegal by a very big percentage of people. Now sharing programs is illegal because it can be considered physical property, being that it must reside on my computer to be used by me. Music, potentially doesn't have to reside on my computer or any equipment for me to hear/evaluate it.

I completely believe in artist's rights and the respect of their copyright and right to be paid for their unique music. What I disagree with is that P2P services for the most part are NOT more promotion and sales generation tools.

Many bands that would go undiscovered are DISCOVERED through MP3's. I'm not just talking about Indies either. A lot of people don't know who sings stuff.

The arguement about The WiseGuys - start the commotion - Telepopmusik Breathe - most Moby stuff - and other songs that are in commercials can almost solely be attributed to P2P or file sharing.

I make MP3 and now AAC conversion CDs to play in my in dash MP3 CD player. I am OFTEN asked who sings the stuff I have - two days ago, a customer went out and bought the White Stripes because he heard 7 Nation Army on my car CD player - I downloaded it from LimeWire!

Alexander · Jul 22, 2003, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flowbee
Yeah, I think the second to the top tier is a little too broad. I'm probably 95% legal and don't much like being lumped in with people who are only 68% legal.

I think this is very telling. Do you consider yourself ethically superior to the 68%s?

Jul 22, 2003, 12:30 AM	#1
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MrMacMan macrumors 601 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 1 Block away from NYC.	You see I have a dilemma. I said the one that has 50% in it, but its weird most of the tracks I got illegally I went out and bought the CD afterwards and just never re-imported them into my computer (why wait the time?) so it would be much, much higher. __________________ There is a little Steve in all of us! -->Folding is Fighting Against Disease and help MacRumors. Join Today!<-- Props to --> Shadowfax For Making My Avatar! IM Me On AIM Already!

Jul 22, 2003, 02:38 AM	#10
mac15 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sydney	arrest me I'm like 30% legal __________________ Check out my guiKitting at the theflanneleffect

Jul 22, 2003, 02:44 AM	#12
MacBandit macrumors 601 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Springfield, OR (Home of the Simpsons)	Back when I was po and lived on campus with a ethernet connection to a dual-T1 line I had 10s of thousands of pirated music. Since then I have had a decent job and a fiancé that likes to buy music. Out of the 1779 songs I have on my computer maybe 10 of them are from a friend or something. I don't keep all my music on my computer but that may change I have a 160GB drive coming to add to the 80GB I have already in the computer. __________________ Folding@Home "Folding FAQ," for more information. Fold with your PS3. Message me on the Playstation Network ID 'MacBandit'

Jul 22, 2003, 12:50 AM	#2
maradong macrumors 65816 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Luxembourg	about 98 is legal ;-) there are some really old tracks, of music made in the 20 th, i ve never found in a store. so i had to use those out of edonkey

Jul 22, 2003, 12:55 AM	#3
BaghdadBob macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gorgeous, WA	Man, I hope these results get better as the sample gets larger. Pretty sad so far. I was 100%, but for special cases I would hope the vast majority would at least be in the next tier down.

Jul 22, 2003, 01:13 AM	#5
BaghdadBob macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gorgeous, WA	Yeah, I mean, 68% legal is like 12.24, and 95% is over 17. The two just can't be judged in the same category.

Jul 22, 2003, 01:13 AM	#6
iJon macrumors 601 Join Date: Feb 2002	probably less than thirty. although it is growing slowly with apples solution. iJon

Jul 22, 2003, 01:48 AM	#8
noverflow macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002	i have 16 out of my 2900+ songs... so i could not say 100% ...sad...

Jul 22, 2003, 02:09 AM	#9
Bunzi2k4 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego, California	well does borrowing your friends cd's count? if that counts, i'm at about 94% legal. The only downloaded mp3's are the ones i got from stepmania (if that counts) and some j-pop.

Jul 22, 2003, 02:40 AM	#11
tazo Guest Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pacific Northwest, Seattle, WA actually	less than 10%

Jul 22, 2003, 03:03 AM	#13
job macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: in transit	About 70%. I still have all of my legit CDs (near 75.) __________________ flickr

Jul 22, 2003, 03:03 AM	#14
rickvanr macrumors 68030 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Brockville	question... define illegal. i download unreleased songs, and live stuff... is that illegal? __________________ rickdiculous.. mr nike+ < o >

Jul 22, 2003, 03:36 AM	#16
gerror macrumors 6502 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Netherlands	Since the prices here in the Netherlands are soo high, I have a lot of illigal music. But nowI have a eMusic account I downloaded a lot of legal music and I occasionally buy a cd. Mostly of smaller bands. I once read a quote from Dave Grohl (Nirvana, Foo Fighters) who said he didn't care about downloading 'because he already has enough money'. I think it hits the smaller bands more than the big ones. __________________ 'Every disadvantage has it's advantage'

Jul 22, 2003, 03:36 AM	#17
niar macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: @work	I have 33% transferred from my old tapes - that's illegal!? Last edited by niar : Jul 22, 2003 at 03:41 AM.

Jul 22, 2003, 04:09 AM	#20
billyboy macrumors 65816 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In my head	The illegal stuff is a couple of CDs full of MP3s from a mates trip down Kazaa´s "dont pay as you go" shopping mall. Nothing compared to my overall collection, but it puts me in the overly large second band. I use MP3.com to stream and download legally. My PC pirate friends are amazed I wont pirate, and even more amazed that it is possible to find good music legally on the internet. I hope Apples iTMS has some element of the streaming service because it is a great way of downloading say 150 unknown tracks into a playlist in one click, and then previewing on a loop. It is amazing the difference in quality of some streams - again lets hope Apples monitoring of independent artists´ material stops the chancers from posting cheaply engineered examples of what is often quite good music.

Jul 22, 2003, 05:01 AM	#21
caveman_uk Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hitchin, Herts, UK	I'm about 98% legal. I've got the odd Kazaa'd song that I wouldn't buy a whole album for but I really like the song...mostly it's old stuff. Stuff I'd probs buy from the iTMS if I could use it I've also got some stuff from Kazaa that I own the album on vinyl but I can't be bothered to figure out how to rip it from vinyl and I sure ain't buying it again. So technically yes I stole the DIGITAL version but I have a perfectly legal analogue version.

Jul 22, 2003, 05:27 AM	#22
LordMord macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London - UK	silly banding... i have just over 12k songs on my library and like 10 or so may be downloads. I hate to get the crap quality ruining my beutifully sounding collection! SO, I have to vote with the 67-99% crowd...ouch thinking about it...I should have voted 100% I think...oh well. __________________ Folding for MacRumors Team!

Jul 22, 2003, 06:18 AM	#23
peterjhill macrumors 65816 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Seattle, WA	Over 4700 songs, 100% legal __________________ Apple, release a new MacBook Pro!

Jul 22, 2003, 07:47 AM	#24
fixyourthinking macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Greenville SC	All songs are considered legal Not wanting to get into a flame war or arguement with any one who is hard headed over the issue, but P2P promotion and sharing of music is NOT considered illegal by a very big percentage of people. Now sharing programs is illegal because it can be considered physical property, being that it must reside on my computer to be used by me. Music, potentially doesn't have to reside on my computer or any equipment for me to hear/evaluate it. I completely believe in artist's rights and the respect of their copyright and right to be paid for their unique music. What I disagree with is that P2P services for the most part are NOT more promotion and sales generation tools. Many bands that would go undiscovered are DISCOVERED through MP3's. I'm not just talking about Indies either. A lot of people don't know who sings stuff. The arguement about The WiseGuys - start the commotion - Telepopmusik Breathe - most Moby stuff - and other songs that are in commercials can almost solely be attributed to P2P or file sharing. I make MP3 and now AAC conversion CDs to play in my in dash MP3 CD player. I am OFTEN asked who sings the stuff I have - two days ago, a customer went out and bought the White Stripes because he heard 7 Nation Army on my car CD player - I downloaded it from LimeWire! __________________ WWW.FIXYOURTHINKING.COM

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