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Old Jul 23, 2003, 02:54 PM   #1
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Shooting at NYC's City Hall

One person has been killed and another wounded at New York's City Hall, shortly after 2 PM.

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Old Jul 23, 2003, 02:58 PM   #2
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The authorities are at fault here - letting someone in with a gun - that's just plain stupid.

Why does it always take some tragedy to get things to work right. You know from now on *everyone* will be checked before going to work. Even if its a metal detector.

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Old Jul 23, 2003, 03:00 PM   #3
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Because we get lazy and trust too much...that's why. It takes something serious to open up our eyes, and make us realize our faults too often.

Even after 9-11, do u realize how many incidents happened inside airports?
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Old Jul 23, 2003, 03:14 PM   #4
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Well it's nice to see that New York is getting back to normal since 9-11.
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Old Jul 23, 2003, 03:33 PM   #5
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The authorities are at fault here - letting someone in with a gun - that's just plain stupid.

Why does it always take some tragedy to get things to work right. You know from now on *everyone* will be checked before going to work. Even if its a metal detector.

Sad.

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Hold on a second. This story broke how long ago? 2 hours? We know so little right now, I don't think it is fair to put the blame on anyone yet.

How do we know that the authorities let a man get through security with a gun? How do we know the killer didn't swipe the gun from a police officer after clearing security? We just don't know it. Let's wait until we put the blame on the people that are trying to protect us.
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Old Jul 23, 2003, 03:48 PM   #6
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The CNN page says "Unconfirmed reports say Councilman James Davis was shot" but the New York Times reports that Councilman James E. Davis was indeed killed. It also sounds like a lot of people could have been hurt, and maybe trampled, in the panic caused by the shooting:
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"We were running really fast. People were tripping, they were falling -- they were even falling over the line in front of the guard rail. And then we ran down into the rotunda of the City Hall and then we were told by the police to run even further. People were jumping over the fence that is in City Hall parking lot to get out into the street," she said.
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Old Jul 23, 2003, 04:25 PM   #7
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He shouldn't have gotten in to begin with. Check for guns using a metal detector before allowing someone into the building ---- how hard can it be?


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Police Commissioner Ray Kelly described the shooter as a man wearing either a blue suit or a blue blazer. A witness described the shooter as a man in his 40s wearing a cream-colored suit.
So are they looking for a man wearing a blue suit, or a man wearing a cream-coloured suit? They need to get their facts straight before "reporting" this. Even Fox News can do better than this.
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Yeah, he was trying to get to bloomberg...

The congressman has died and NYC is very, very slowly releasing information.

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Old Jul 23, 2003, 05:21 PM   #9
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it's the freakin wild west up here.....


i don't understand how i had to 'surrender' a damn keychain when entering the courthouse because it 'could be used as a weapon', and yet some nutcase just strolls right in to city hall and starts shootin up the place....
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The congressman has died and NYC is very, very slowly releasing information.

Wow, look what 24 hour news channels and the internet have done to us. I am all for getting as much information as quickly as possible, but this is ridiculous. It's been less than 5 hours. Believe it or not, the primary objective right now is to figure out how and why this happened, and to fix it for tomorrow and the future-not to inform you of all the details immediately after the event only for you to criticize the police more.
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Old Jul 23, 2003, 08:11 PM   #11
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it's unfortunate that this happened... it's even more unfortunate that he didnt get bloomberg... even more unfortunate that Pataki didnt come down for a visit today...

by the way... thank you freg... nice to see someone defending the people who are trying to keep us safe
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James Davis, a councilman from Brooklyn, was shot twice in the chest by his political opponent, Othniel Askew, and Askew was gunned down by a security guard on the first floor. James Davis is a retired NYPD officer, and he lead movements against urban violence. Here is how Othniel Askew got in. he brought a guest into the Hall, and they went around the metal detetctors.

Stuff like that shouldn't happen. Everyone should get checked no matter what. James Davis was authorized to have a gun since retired NYPD officers are allowed to, but he didn't have tie to reach for his gun.

This is a sad day. Let us all pray for Davis's family and friends.

R.I.P James Davis.
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Wow, look what 24 hour news channels and the internet have done to us. I am all for getting as much information as quickly as possible, but this is ridiculous. It's been less than 5 hours. Believe it or not, the primary objective right now is to figure out how and why this happened, and to fix it for tomorrow and the future-not to inform you of all the details immediately after the event only for you to criticize the police more.
hey hey hey, didn't criticize the police.

Look, I wanted them to tell me that a congressperson was dead, I didn't need for witnesses to tell me that.



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James Davis, a councilman from Brooklyn, was shot twice in the chest by his political opponent, Othniel Askew, and Askew was gunned down by a security guard on the first floor. James Davis is a retired NYPD officer, and he lead movements against urban violence. Here is how Othniel Askew got in. he brought a guest into the Hall, and they went around the metal detetctors.

Stuff like that shouldn't happen. Everyone should get checked no matter what. James Davis was authorized to have a gun since retired NYPD officers are allowed to, but he didn't have tie to reach for his gun.

This is a sad day. Let us all pray for Davis's family and friends.

R.I.P James Davis.
Yes, rest in peace congress member.

I don't care if police can get to carry guns, I know this my cousin is a police officer and his dad is retired they both have guns, but there should atleast keep them in a cubby when they enter the building, and was killing your political opponent the best move?
No, that is just dumb.
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Old Jul 23, 2003, 09:30 PM   #14
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damn shame. what's next, the schools?
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damn shame. what's next, the schools?
the US is already quite familiar with school shootings...
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