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Old Jul 17, 2007, 09:28 PM   #1
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Intel's Upcoming Penryn Core 2 Duo Processors



Dailytech.com claims to have more leaked information -- this time on Intel's upcoming Penryn-based Core 2 Duo Processors which are due in Q1 2008.

The upcoming Core 2 Duo processors will continue to use the 800MHz FSB ranging from 2.1GHz to 2.6GHz with up to 6MB of L2 Cache on the top end models. Meanwhile a Core 2 Extreme revision will top out at 2.8 GHz. Penryn is expected to bring a number of enhancements and performance enhancements.

The Santa Rosa spec will be revised to support the Penryn-based mobile Core 2 Duo processors which are due in Q1'08. After this release , Intel plans on overhauling their mobile platform in Q2'2008 with the "Montevina" revision.

Apple recently took advantage of the Santa Rosa chipset in new MacBook Pros released in June 2007. Apple would be expected to take advantage of the upcoming chipsets around their release in Q1 2008. In the meanwhile, Apple is expected to release a Ultra-thin version of the MacBook Pro later this year.

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Old Jul 17, 2007, 09:36 PM   #2
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So is anybody still missing "the good 'ol days" with Motorola processor updates progressing at an almost glacial rate?
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 09:42 PM   #3
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So is anybody still missing "the good 'ol days" with Motorola processor updates progressing at an almost glacial rate?
Honestly, all this stuff is giving me a big headache. The more you try to keep up with this chip news the less you want to purchase anything. I'm going to now ignore it all & unless its about a major redesign in a product (like the talk about the new aluminum iMacs) I'm just gonna buy what I need when I need it and move on with life.

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Old Jul 17, 2007, 10:03 PM   #4
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all this stuff is giving me a big headache
Ditto...all this chip rumor can do for most people is confuse them and push them away from making a purchase.
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 10:04 PM   #5
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So is anybody still missing "the good 'ol days" with Motorola processor updates progressing at an almost glacial rate?
Well, I guess they can't please everybody...
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 10:16 PM   #6
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I'm just gonna buy what I need when I need it
Best advise ever - but be sure to add that "what I need" means just that.

Buying "expansion" for the future usually means that you pay more now - and when the future comes you'd rather get something new and better rather than just adding to the old box.

One probable exception, though, is memory. If you buy a box with some empty RAM slots or disk bays, you'll probably fill those....
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 10:35 PM   #7
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The upcoming Core 2 Duo processors will continue to use the 800MHz FSB ranging from 2.1GHz to 2.6GHz with up to 6MB of L2 Cache on the top end models. Meanwhile a Core 2 Extreme revision will top out at 2.8 GHz.
So what will the extra 2MB of L2 Cache give me ?

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The Santa Rosa spec will be revised to support the Penryn-based mobile Core 2 Duo processors which are due in Q1'08. After this release , Intel plans on overhauling their mobile platform in Q2'2008 with the "Montevina" revision.
More importantly, what will the Montevina revision bring me that is better than Santa Rosa ? Will I finally be able to expand my RAM to 16GB in my MBP ?
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 10:36 PM   #8
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 10:38 PM   #9
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 10:46 PM   #10
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More importantly, what will the Montevina revision bring me that is better than Santa Rosa ? Will I finally be able to expand my RAM to 16GB in my MBP ?
Sounds like garbage. Everyone here knows you need ATLEAST a 16 core core processor and 1 TB of ram to run even the most basic features of OS X..
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 11:20 PM   #11
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Ahhh 1st Quarter of 2008, I knew Penryn would land around my birthday=). I've never put a laptop to work as much as I have my current C2D MBP. I'll give this to my sister and enjoy the new benefits of the Santa Rosa and whatever is to come with Penryn.

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Old Jul 17, 2007, 11:23 PM   #12
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I'm still hoping for a rushed release. Intel has had samples for months as it is.
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 11:26 PM   #13
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That's fine and dandy and all, but I'm still waiting for a Mac Pro revision, and have been all year. I signed up for a student developer package with the intention of getting a decent discount off of a Mac Pro... unfortunately, Apple is taking their sweet time and screwing everybody like me who wants a top-end system but will not stand for a radeon 1900.

PROTIP: Adding an expensive-as-hell option for an 8-core system is not a revision, Apple... update that system now!

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good news . looking forward to seeing these in apple computers
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 11:48 PM   #15
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The more you try to keep up with this chip news the less you want to purchase anything.
I belong in that club. I'm still waiting for the best MBP ever... I've been waiting since Dec 2006 and still can't decide whether to wait for the NEXT BIG THING...
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 12:01 AM   #16
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PROTIP: Adding an expensive-as-hell option for an 8-core system is not a revision, Apple... update that system now!
I don't think they really need to update the system, just cut the prices a little bit... The machine is at the top of today's technology. There's not so many 3.0GHz Dual QUAD-Core Xeons around from other manufacturers...
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 12:22 AM   #17
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So are we or aren't we getting Flash support on our iPHONES?

Are we really concerned about the next processor for our laptops? It's like watching grass grow. Every day seems a little bigger, but it's really just about the same.

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Old Jul 18, 2007, 01:07 AM   #18
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Intel pricing pressure? Where I haven't seen lower Mac prices!

Intel said today that the sold a larger number of chips at a lower margin. I wish Apple would pass along some of of those savings along to us, their customers! I can remember when the last price cut was on a Mac. Sure they are improving speed little by little, but it doesn't seem as though the prices are ever going to come down.

I guess that's the "price" we have to pay given the Mac new found popularity. My buddy had to wait 2 weeks for his new MacBook Pro to come back into stock.

Hey Apple, if Intel says that they are selling chips at a lower rate to compete with AMD, how about passing the savings on to us in the form of lower prices?
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 01:13 AM   #19
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So what will the extra 2MB of L2 Cache give me ?


More importantly, what will the Montevina revision bring me that is better than Santa Rosa ? Will I finally be able to expand my RAM to 16GB in my MBP ?
Probably not but you do get a 1,07 GHz FSB (1067 Mhz?), 800 MHz DDR3 support as well as WiMax/3G (HSDPA) amongst others

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Best advise ever - but be sure to add that "what I need" means just that.

Buying "expansion" for the future usually means that you pay more now - and when the future comes you'd rather get something new and better rather than just adding to the old box.

One probable exception, though, is memory. If you buy a box with some empty RAM slots or disk bays, you'll probably fill those....
That almost sounds like an endorsement of the all-in-one form factor - you're slipping, Aiden! So, if the new iMac had 4 RAM slots and a user-serviceable HD bay, would you recommend it (as a form factor)?
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 02:00 AM   #21
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I am more than happy with my SR MBP for the next few years.New processors and advancements are a fact of life, as it stands this may be my last Apple product if their focus is heading further into gadgetry.

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please help me understand.

Why do faster processors matter when more demanding applications distribute work between many computers?
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 02:38 AM   #23
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please help me understand.

Why do faster processors matter when more demanding applications distribute work between many computers?
If by "computers" you mean cores, not all applications can be. The vast majority of programs can but in some cases its not that simple. Also, multiple cores are a relatively new thing so not all programs are coded to utilize them and wont be for a while.

As an aside, though, a processor can never be fast enough.
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 02:47 AM   #24
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Alright...hopefully Apple will jump on the band wagon, and through them in some Macs in time for MacWorld '08!
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 04:32 AM   #25
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Ditto...all this chip rumor can do for most people is confuse them and push them away from making a purchase.

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner!
Now I will have to suffer through endless new threads from those who have already been posting away about delaying a purchase 'waiting for Leopard' for the last 6 months start new threads speculating that 'Apple' should have these chips in computers in time for Christmas
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