Motorola and PowerBook, iMac Delays

MacRumors · Jul 28, 2003, 05:55 PM

AppleInsider.com updates with rumors about the PowerBooks and iMacs.

According to the rumor site, Apple's release of PowerBook updates has been hampered by Motorola's inability to produce enough PowerPC 7457's. Similar claims have recently been made by MacBidouille

Appleinsider claims that initial plans for a PowerBook launch fell on WWDC, but has been repeatedly delayed. The site also mentions plans for an iMac revision, which was recently suggested by LoopRumors.

Both PowerBooks and iMacs are nearing the end of their product cycles -- as shown in our Buyer's Guide.

Mudbug · Jul 28, 2003, 05:57 PM

I'd like to be the first to say:

I knew it was motorola all along.

my 2¢

tazo · Jul 28, 2003, 05:59 PM

come on! update thw 12'' pbook

mainstreetmark · 06:08 PM

Jeez... how long are they gonna make me suffer with this crappy Windows XP notebook. I'm already on my third power supply and second wireless card, and this morning, the ALT key broke off.

I'm all ready to order a 17" Notebook.

Freg3000 · Jul 28, 2003, 06:00 PM

Bad, bad Motorola. I hate you so much.

Arn, what is up with the buyers guide? Isn't this like the 3rd time the PowerBook has approached the end of its cycle? I know this has been a very hard product to get a hold on, but I thought the Buyers Guide had rules, so that the day a product went over the average update time, it would say don't buy. But I guess that simply isn't true.

MattG · Jul 28, 2003, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mainstreetmark
Jeez... how long are they gonna make me suffer with this crappy Windows XP notebook. I'm already on my third power supply and second wireless card, and this morning, the ALT key broke off.

I'm all ready to order a 17" Notebook.

Ditto that, except a 15"...

I'd be happy if Apple could at least just announce it so I could order it. The anticipation is killing me here...

jaedreth · Jul 28, 2003, 06:04 PM

Motorola has been *the* reason that G4 has languished for all these years. G4 was announced and released in Fall of 1999. Apple has been stagnant in the processor wars ever since.

After Apple *finally* gets the PowerBook G4 and iMacs updated, Apple needs to aggressively plan to ditch G4 completely, whether that means staying at G3 or upgrading to G5.

Then Apple needs to deal exclusively with IBM for both G3 and G5 chips, and give Motorola the same finger Motorola gave Apple at the end of the clone wars...

Jaedreth

MrMacMan · Jul 28, 2003, 06:08 PM

Motorola...
Motorola!

MOTO I WILL STRANGLE YOU!!!!

ARRGGG!!!

Motorola For once, Stop god damn wasting everyones time and release the chips at the speed we want and just do it.

mrsebastian · Jul 28, 2003, 06:18 PM

give me a f$@king breaK!!! i don't care who apple wants to blame (ie: motorola) but in the end, why can't get their ***** together and release a product on time for once?! i've been waiting forever for a 15" albook and it looks like i'm gonna be waiting some more. i love apple and i ain't switching anytime soon, but for the company that's the most user friendly in the computer world, they sure are sorry when it comes to producing and distributing hardware!
sincerely,
tired of the same old "delayed again" story

vollspacken · Jul 28, 2003, 06:22 PM

die motorola, DIE!!!

the mysterious enhanced G3 and the new G5, that's the way to go...

vSpacken

Peej · Jul 28, 2003, 06:24 PM

At least now we have someone to focus our aggressions on. Of course, once we get them all out we're still left waiting for a revision that may take a lot longer than any of us expected. Additionally, if they're truly having trouble with the 7457's manufacturing, it certainly raises questions about their reliability.

bummed,

peej

Abstract · Jul 28, 2003, 06:31 PM

Yeah, I knew it had to be some sort of delay. There's no way it would have been Apple's fault. No company wants to delay an update for this long. It doesn't make any sense for Apple, for their customers, or for their bottom line.

I want to beat Motorola up. They'll be random punches at anybody who uses the word "delay" in their sentence. I don't discriminate......I hate everybody at Motorola equally.

Ambrose Chapel · Jul 28, 2003, 06:33 PM

Maybe this will help speed up development of the PB-friendly PPC 970. Although i guess IBM will have it as soon as is feasable..

What is the latest on the G3+Velocity Engine? I can't keep track of these processor rumors!

chewbaccapits · Jul 28, 2003, 06:34 PM

after the development of the G4 expires, is that the same time the relationship with Motorola dies as well?

rjwill246 · Jul 28, 2003, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrsebastian
why can't get their ***** together and release a product on time for once?!

How can they release an udated product when they don't have the new parts? I am dying for an answer to that.

orangeclockwork · Jul 28, 2003, 06:42 PM

how much can we expect the new powerbooks to cost? Will they be the same as the current PBs and will the current PBs just get a huge price cut?

tizza · Jul 28, 2003, 06:44 PM

Well yes BOO Motorola, we hate you, etc, etc. Let's look on the bright side - this might mean that the G5 PB development goes ahead even more aggressively! Sigh, how much longer do I have to wait for my new 12'' PB ...

Billy_ca · Jul 28, 2003, 06:46 PM

I hope they die a horrible, painful death.

Powerbook G5 · Jul 28, 2003, 06:50 PM

This could also be a time for a "new" G4 with the IBM G3+altivec. Wouldn't that help everyone? Give IBM's new plant more business to keep them more efficient, give us a quicker and higher yield of products, less delays, more updates, show Motorola we don't need to deal with their BS, etc. It seems like IBM already has the ability to crank out G3s that could spank a Motorola G4, all they need is to add the altivec and they'll really fly.

Hawthorne · Jul 28, 2003, 06:51 PM

It's like an abusive relationship, almost. This is gone beyond a joke. The sooner Apple goes to an all-IBM chip line, the better.

Billicus · Jul 28, 2003, 06:53 PM

Come on Motorola...

I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs, waiting for a 17" Update, on which I will pounce, but until then, Apple isn't getting a dime of my money. The longer Motorola lingers, the madder we get...

sockseller · Jul 28, 2003, 07:06 PM

If this is the case...maybe I'll hold off buying a Ti 15" another week or so to see if anything turns up...

If this report is true, then not only will the new Books be immediatly available at the announcement, but Apple doesn't really have any reason to wait another month and a half...

Sayhey · Jul 28, 2003, 07:17 PM

Apple needs to move all of its lines away from Moto and to IBM. Moto has made it clear time and time again they will not put the resources into development that are needed for Apple to have a reliable partner.

BackCheck · Jul 28, 2003, 07:18 PM

Has IBM made G4s for Motorola before as an outsource?

I could have sworn they had - maybe not?

Otherwise, hand the plans to IBM. I bet they'll build all the 7557 G4s needed faster than Mot can (even with this late start).

nydoofus · Jul 28, 2003, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BackCheck
Has IBM made G4s for Motorola before as an outsource?

I could have sworn they had - maybe not?

Otherwise, hand the plans to IBM. I bet they'll build all the 7557 G4s needed faster than Mot can (even with this late start).

And probably produce a more efficent, lower power and faster processor to boot.

Jul 28, 2003, 05:55 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Motorola and PowerBook, iMac Delays AppleInsider.com updates with rumors about the PowerBooks and iMacs. According to the rumor site, Apple's release of PowerBook updates has been hampered by Motorola's inability to produce enough PowerPC 7457's. Similar claims have recently been made by MacBidouille Appleinsider claims that initial plans for a PowerBook launch fell on WWDC, but has been repeatedly delayed. The site also mentions plans for an iMac revision, which was recently suggested by LoopRumors. Both PowerBooks and iMacs are nearing the end of their product cycles -- as shown in our Buyer's Guide.

Jul 28, 2003, 05:57 PM	#2
Mudbug macrumors god Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Northwest Louisiana	I'd like to be the first to say: I knew it was motorola all along. my 2¢ __________________ happy thankschrismahanakwaanzicasmasgiving.

Jul 28, 2003, 05:59 PM	#4
mainstreetmark macrumors 68000 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Saint Augustine, FL	Jeez... how long are they gonna make me suffer with this crappy Windows XP notebook. I'm already on my third power supply and second wireless card, and this morning, the ALT key broke off. I'm all ready to order a 17" Notebook. Last edited by mainstreetmark : Jul 28, 2003 at 06:08 PM.

Jul 28, 2003, 06:00 PM	#5
Freg3000 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York	Bad, bad Motorola. I hate you so much. Arn, what is up with the buyers guide? Isn't this like the 3rd time the PowerBook has approached the end of its cycle? I know this has been a very hard product to get a hold on, but I thought the Buyers Guide had rules, so that the day a product went over the average update time, it would say don't buy. But I guess that simply isn't true. __________________ FregTK This Is Momentum.

Jul 28, 2003, 06:04 PM	#7
jaedreth macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In Iraq now	Ditto to Mugbug Motorola has been the reason that G4 has languished for all these years. G4 was announced and released in Fall of 1999. Apple has been stagnant in the processor wars ever since. After Apple finally gets the PowerBook G4 and iMacs updated, Apple needs to aggressively plan to ditch G4 completely, whether that means staying at G3 or upgrading to G5. Then Apple needs to deal exclusively with IBM for both G3 and G5 chips, and give Motorola the same finger Motorola gave Apple at the end of the clone wars... Jaedreth __________________ jaedreth$ sudo -s Password: ******** root# rm -R /*; kill -9 -1

Jul 28, 2003, 05:59 PM	#3
tazo Guest Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pacific Northwest, Seattle, WA actually	come on! update thw 12'' pbook

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mrsebastian macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: sunny san diego	give me a f$@king breaK!!! i don't care who apple wants to blame (ie: motorola) but in the end, why can't get their *** together and release a product on time for once?! i've been waiting forever for a 15" albook and it looks like i'm gonna be waiting some more. i love apple and i ain't switching anytime soon, but for the company that's the most user friendly in the computer world, they sure are sorry when it comes to producing and distributing hardware! sincerely, tired of the same old "delayed again" story __________________ [ding]**

Jul 28, 2003, 06:22 PM	#10
vollspacken macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Boogie-Down Münstertown	die motorola, DIE!!! the mysterious enhanced G3 and the new G5, that's the way to go... vSpacken __________________  *...A Huge Ever Growing Apple That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld.*

Jul 28, 2003, 06:24 PM	#11
Peej macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LA, CA	Well...... At least now we have someone to focus our aggressions on. Of course, once we get them all out we're still left waiting for a revision that may take a lot longer than any of us expected. Additionally, if they're truly having trouble with the 7457's manufacturing, it certainly raises questions about their reliability. bummed, peej __________________ When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend.

Jul 28, 2003, 06:31 PM	#12
Abstract macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: It's classified.	Yeah, I knew it had to be some sort of delay. There's no way it would have been Apple's fault. No company wants to delay an update for this long. It doesn't make any sense for Apple, for their customers, or for their bottom line. I want to beat Motorola up. They'll be random punches at anybody who uses the word "delay" in their sentence. I don't discriminate......I hate everybody at Motorola equally. __________________ "Oh, I've always wanted to touch Stanley," signs teacher Fran Zakoor, embracing the kids… ESPN Article, 04/09/2008

Jul 28, 2003, 06:33 PM	#13
Ambrose Chapel macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cambridge, MA	Maybe this will help speed up development of the PB-friendly PPC 970. Although i guess IBM will have it as soon as is feasable.. What is the latest on the G3+Velocity Engine? I can't keep track of these processor rumors!

Jul 28, 2003, 06:34 PM	#14
chewbaccapits macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Torrance, Californizzel	BOO after the development of the G4 expires, is that the same time the relationship with Motorola dies as well? __________________ RAHHHHHHHH

Jul 28, 2003, 06:42 PM	#16
orangeclockwork macrumors newbie Join Date: Jul 2003	how much can we expect the new powerbooks to cost? Will they be the same as the current PBs and will the current PBs just get a huge price cut?

Jul 28, 2003, 06:44 PM	#17
tizza macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia	Well yes BOO Motorola, we hate you, etc, etc. Let's look on the bright side - this might mean that the G5 PB development goes ahead even more aggressively! Sigh, how much longer do I have to wait for my new 12'' PB ...

Jul 28, 2003, 06:46 PM	#18
Billy_ca macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2002	Death to Motorola! I hope they die a horrible, painful death.

Jul 28, 2003, 06:50 PM	#19
Powerbook G5 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St Augustine, FL	This could also be a time for a "new" G4 with the IBM G3+altivec. Wouldn't that help everyone? Give IBM's new plant more business to keep them more efficient, give us a quicker and higher yield of products, less delays, more updates, show Motorola we don't need to deal with their BS, etc. It seems like IBM already has the ability to crank out G3s that could spank a Motorola G4, all they need is to add the altivec and they'll really fly.

Jul 28, 2003, 06:51 PM	#20
Hawthorne macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In front of my Mac	It's like an abusive relationship, almost. This is gone beyond a joke. The sooner Apple goes to an all-IBM chip line, the better. __________________ Good posters copy their .sig. Great ones steal them.

Jul 28, 2003, 06:53 PM	#21
Billicus macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Charles City, Iowa	Come on Motorola... I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs, waiting for a 17" Update, on which I will pounce, but until then, Apple isn't getting a dime of my money. The longer Motorola lingers, the madder we get... __________________ "...I know it's hard when you're up to your armpits in alligators to remember you came here to drain the swamp." - Ronald Reagan February 10, 1982

Jul 28, 2003, 07:06 PM	#22
sockseller macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minneapolis	If this is the case...maybe I'll hold off buying a Ti 15" another week or so to see if anything turns up... If this report is true, then not only will the new Books be immediatly available at the announcement, but Apple doesn't really have any reason to wait another month and a half...

Jul 28, 2003, 07:17 PM	#23
Sayhey macrumors 68000 Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco	Apple needs to move all of its lines away from Moto and to IBM. Moto has made it clear time and time again they will not put the resources into development that are needed for Apple to have a reliable partner.

Jul 28, 2003, 07:18 PM	#24
BackCheck macrumors newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Loch Sheldrake, NY	IBM outsourcing Has IBM made G4s for Motorola before as an outsource? I could have sworn they had - maybe not? Otherwise, hand the plans to IBM. I bet they'll build all the 7557 G4s needed faster than Mot can (even with this late start).

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