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Apple Exploring MultiTouch Interface Gestures
![]() If there was any doubt where some at Apple think the direction of the future is, a new patent application describes the progression of the computer user interface over the years: Quote:
Elias goes on to describe how multi-touch gestures can have a broad vocabulary and invoke a number of actions. The patent application describes how to implement dictionary of gestures ("chords") which are made up of a combination of fingers, thumbs, and/or other hand parts. The dictionary would be presented to the user for teaching purposes but could also allow the user to assign meanings to particular gestures. An extremely broad vocabulary is described in that Elias explains that each user's hands can execute twenty-five combinations based on five independent fingers. In the end, over 300 possible combinations are expected per hand. Examples given include "Thumb & 1 Finger" combinations producing on action: ![]() and "Thumb & 2 Finger" combinations producing different actions: ![]() This patent application was filed January 3, 2007 and was just published today. Apple's iPhone presently utilizes a multi-touch interface, but only implements a limited number of gestures, but there have been hopes that Apple would expand this interface to iPods and Displays Article Link |
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300 Gestures per hand?!?
Dag. So... could Apple, via a Software Update, enable more Gestures on iPhones? Regardless, it will be interesting to see how Apple will implement this tech in their (more traditional, aka: non-iPhone) computer offerings. Why do I get the feeling the next iMac is where Apple will debut such things? Hmmm, interesting times... Last edited by lazyrighteye : Aug 2, 2007 at 11:28 AM. |
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Looks neat -- but how do you do 212 and 213 with only two fingers?
Are they really talking about the "pinch" (and "reverse-pinch" if that's a word) that are currently used on the iPhone for zooming? Maybe -- just bad icons.
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seems easier to just use a mouse.
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Of course it seems really cool, but that looks confusing, surely Apple will maintain simplicity with their further application of this.
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This will be interesting to see. It looks confusing.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Apple should team up with Nintendo to work on this technology.
After all the Nintendo has the Wii with its motion controller. |
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you'd need a whole new type of computer. ultra-portable tablet?
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so I think that just represents "pinch" and "reverse-pinch". So each "arrow" doesn't necessarily corrspond to a finger/thumb. arn |
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You know how old folks all seem to be techno-phobic fuddy duddies who don't understand anything more complicated than a TV remote? It's not that they're stupid. The world just moved faster than they could keep up.
Well, this is the begining of the end for us, my friend. Yes, I agree that a mouse seems easier. But I bet my 5 month old daughter is going to know all these hand motions by the time she's 4. Give it another 2 decades and she'll be flying space shuttles with her toes while you and I and all the rest of the 'mouse users' will be sleeping in boxes under the freeway overpass. |
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yeah, it does a little bit. very interesting. maybe we'll find out more on Tuesday?
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These remind me of the Graffiti icons from my old Palm. Apple will definitely make them simpler and more intuitive. I think it's great that they're making this they're "next big thing" because it will give people a naturally human interaction with their computers instead of requiring them to learn how to use special input devices. I want to go down on record as liking the keyboard more than the mouse. The mouse has certain functions to perform, but people rely too heavily on it. You can get so much more done in a short period of time using keyboard shortcuts.
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I have to agree that the gestures look hard to remember, but playing around with my fingers (and thumbs) on the computer desk makes me think that this could be somthing I could live with, and might even find to be fun. However, I'd still like to have a keyboard and mouse on my computer desk. Not everything is better with multitouch.
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seems like something that would be added to a touchmouse on a laptop, im not sure how you would integrate this onto something such as an imac
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I wonder instead of touch computer display if they will put a small trackpad-like "display" on the keyboard or something in the future -- maybe a small iPhone sized touch device that can be placed to the right or left of the computer, replacing the mouse. As has been said many times on this forum, I can't imagine using an iMac or desktop Mac with a touch screen display.
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The future of this will be fun to take part in .... all iPhone users are beta testers for this new cool technology
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The thing to remember is that multitouch gestures are not untested technology.
![]() ![]() http://www.fingerworks.com/gesture_guide_web.html http://www.fingerworks.com/userguides.html Fingerworks had a very loyal following. Quote:
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Its about time we use all ten fingers when we use a computer
I always thought that using a mouse is like using one finger for everything you do, eating, drinking, writing. The mouse never made sense to me. If you use all ten fingers then your able to utilize a computer as you would something in real life.
Look at the interface for the 3d software program MAYA. They started to utilize two hands and multi-button mouses back in 1996. Then Maya came up with the star system for quick commands without going to the top menu bar all the time. Its still brilliant. Apple will incorporate this new technology into its mouse pads/laptops and possible tablets. I can also see apple coming out with a tablet/monitor such as WACOMS CINTIQ. Its about time we use all ten fingers when we use a computer. |
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Microsoft Patent Infringement?
So will Apple's multitouch patents ever conflict with Microsoft's Surface Computing patents? Microsoft's Surface utilizes cameras rather than touch-sensitivity, but it's still a method of using hand gestures as a computer interface.
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Ok, this is really cool
![]() Think about it and try them out on your touchpads, there isn't enough room for (most) of them (and I don't even have that big fingers) which means there must be an iMac (maybe not the next one per se) or a different kind of device whos screen is capable of detecting them!
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Touch Screen vs. Trackpad
I'm not saying that I expect this in the upcoming iMacs, but with iMacs being all about the built in display, unless Apple develops a Mac Tablet, the iMac seems like a logical debut for this technology in the desktop form factor.
The other alternative would be selling a touch capable Apple Display for non-iMacs, or as mentioned, an external desktop trackpad. Touching the "objects" on screen seems to be the more natural form of input, for example, the iPhone's interface. |
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But leave it to Apple to make it simple and easy for anyone to use.
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