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Old Aug 6, 2003, 06:48 AM   #1
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Get put in jail for setting up a website?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

What the hell was he thinking? Too bad he didn't try and make one himself and have it blow him up - perfect for the Darwin Awards.

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Old Aug 6, 2003, 06:54 AM   #2
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Darwin Awards indeed D.

"I wasn't thinking"...heh...it's an honest response...but come on!!

So, theoretically...if someone created something...and the recipe was linked to this guy...could he get in even more trouble for furnishing info?
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Old Aug 6, 2003, 06:59 AM   #3
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Not sure of his liabilities - but he's not going to be doing this again.

I can't even imagine going to jail for a year over something so obviously stupid as that. And the judge gave him more time than what was in his plea bargain

Eh, he's only 20, hopefully he'll get back on track....

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Old Aug 6, 2003, 07:13 AM   #4
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Eh, he's only 20, hopefully he'll get back on track....
ha ha yeah...I'd be curious to see what other smart things he does in the future...

I'd guess part of his plea & sentence is that he's not liable for anything stemming from it..but still...
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Old Aug 6, 2003, 08:19 AM   #5
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since when can information get you arrested? from what i remember, the only way they can do anything of the sort is if it is about nuclear weapons, the government automatically owns all such info and there are tight controls... But bomb-making is scientific and has a range of uses other than "terror"...

first it's this, no big deal, he was a dumbass anyway, right? Next they'll arrest people for setting up websites that discuss politics, criticize leaders... No biggie, as long as you are a good little citizen and only have websites about pre-determined topics, you'll be fine. Anyone who doesn't like it is obviously hiding something and should be arrested themselves.

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Old Aug 6, 2003, 08:35 AM   #6
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I think what it's coming down to at this point, is anything that can trigger a problem is going to be dealt with. The reality of it is that likely no one will create anything from this guy's site, but it's the risk factor being looked at intensely.

Security measure in this country are going to be nuts from now on.
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Old Aug 6, 2003, 08:39 AM   #7
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If this came from outside the US, it wouldn't have been an issue. What ends up here is this kid was used as an example - which sucks, but anarchy and bombing is a very touchy subject.

The only thing is that all the info is available online and its a sad that he's getting put in jail. But it was also his own stupidity that landed him there.

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Old Aug 6, 2003, 08:42 AM   #8
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What about Google?

What about Google? Or any search engine for that matter! Don't they link to those types of sites as well?

How can you charge and arrest people for linking to websites?! I would understand if he provided information on his site, but links?
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Old Aug 6, 2003, 11:11 AM   #9
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Arrest Bill Gates and give him a wedgie and steal his lunch money. Arrest Mr. Google for creating an effective, and possible 'deadly', search engine. Arrest Google for existing. How do you think this guy found these sites to begin with?
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If he was a lifetime PC user, would a three year mandatory vacation from using a computer be a punishment?

But then again he was arrested for having easy access to information.

The US is trying to take information that's been in the public domain for years and making it a crime to have.

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Of course they're doing the same thing with gardening books that happen to be the hot book on setting up hydroponic systems.

Arresting manufacturers of ziplock baggies, glassware operations, etc. if their product becomes widely used in drug operations.

Remember it's illegal to have a calibrated/accurate scientific scale in your home or car (especially if the residue turns those test kits funny colors).
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Remember it's illegal to have a calibrated/accurate scientific scale in your home or car
You serious about this? I used to have one and I have no affiliation with any possible explosives or drugs. This just doesn't make any sense....

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You serious about this? I used to have one and I have no affiliation with any possible explosives or drugs. This just doesn't make any sense....

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Sort of, it's still drug paraphernalia.

Just don't be in the habit of leaving the paper you use rolling for your own cigarettes next to a scale.
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Yeah, there'd have to be proof that it was used for drug or explosive related things.

When you're doing a little chemistry at home having a scale that can measure 10s of a gram is nice. Guess that would count....

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That is stupid, since when is the anarchist cookbook illegal?

This is plain grade A ************.

I hope he appeals, I can't believe he even settled.

Should this be illegal?

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Whats with that? Somehow he has to pay damages (where no damage was done), not only jail and banned from computer but $$ too!

I bet if he didn't take the deal the U.S would have pushed for the death penatly or something really stupid.
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since when can information get you arrested?
Uh, my guess would be since at least WWII
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Old Aug 6, 2003, 02:14 PM   #16
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I don't think I could do that!

Anyway, this guy should have known that he was heading for trouble, IMO.
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How come he got arrested for linking to those sites, if the owners who actually put up the information didn't get arrested?
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stupid, unsavory, but I don't know that I'm necessarily comfortable with the idea that the dissemination of information should constitute a criminal act.
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