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Old Aug 22, 2007, 02:07 PM   #1
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Intel announces 2.8 GHz notebook processor

Now we're talking.

I see a bump in our future.

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Old Aug 22, 2007, 02:09 PM   #2
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This is the chip that's in the high-end iMac now, 4God.

And it has a TDP of 44 watts...it's not showing up in a Macbook near you, unless it ships with an external heat shield for your body!
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 02:11 PM   #3
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This is the chip that's in the high-end iMac now, 4God.
Oops, didn't think it was the same model number. Sorry if this is
an irrelevant post. Ahh, I have now read the entire article......duh.

Please be kind.....
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No worries. It's confusing, but this part:

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The first customer to get this high-end processor was once again Apple, which quietly began offering the chip two weeks ago for its new iMac. A 2.8 GHz iMac with a 24" monitor is currently offered from $2300, which translates into a $250 premium over a 2.4 GHz (non-"Extreme") model.
...is talking about the new 7900 chip and not the 7800.

(As a side note, the Intel iMacs have all, as far as I know, used "laptop" chip designs -- Yonah and Merom, before this one. Although, in this chip's case, it's a bit of a stretch to call it a laptop design!)
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No worries. It's confusing, but this part:

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The first customer to get this high-end processor was once again Apple, which quietly began offering the chip two weeks ago for its new iMac. A 2.8 GHz iMac with a 24" monitor is currently offered from $2300, which translates into a $250 premium over a 2.4 GHz (non-"Extreme") model.
...is talking about the new 7900 chip and not the 7800.

(As a side note, the Intel iMacs have all, as far as I know, used "laptop" chip designs -- Yonah and Merom, before this one. Although, in this chip's case, it's a bit of a stretch to call it a laptop design!)
The problem comes in that the X7900 was just released at the same price as the X7800. The X7800 hasn't seen an official price cut, but a T7800 (same basic chip,) was released at the same time as the X7900, at $530. (Basically, the X7900 has caused all the chips below it to drop a price notch, with the former X7800 now being called the T7800 as part of the price drop.)

What's really amazing is that the X7900 is $851, while the T7700 (the 2.4 GHz chip that the iMac ships with stock,) is $361 (source). That means that Apple is charging a $250 upgrade fee for a chip that costs $490 more. (In all fairness, the T7700 is only hitting $361 officially at the same time the X7900 is officially released; until now, the T7700 was $530, which makes the release price of the X7900 only a $321 difference; although that's the same price as the now-depricated X7800, too, so theoretically, the X7900 should have cost more before now as well.)
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The problem comes in that the X7900 was just released at the same price as the X7800. The X7800 hasn't seen an official price cut, but a T7800 (same basic chip,) was released at the same time as the X7900, at $530. (Basically, the X7900 has caused all the chips below it to drop a price notch, with the former X7800 now being called the T7800 as part of the price drop.)

What's really amazing is that the X7900 is $851, while the T7700 (the 2.4 GHz chip that the iMac ships with stock,) is $361 (source). That means that Apple is charging a $250 upgrade fee for a chip that costs $490 more. (In all fairness, the T7700 is only hitting $361 officially at the same time the X7900 is officially released; until now, the T7700 was $530, which makes the release price of the X7900 only a $321 difference; although that's the same price as the now-depricated X7800, too, so theoretically, the X7900 should have cost more before now as well.)
Price varies with volume. For every 10k chips bought by Apple they'll get a different price point than a single cpu for a consumer. This goes for any OEM.
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Is 44 Watts Too High A TDP For The 17" MBP?

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This is the chip that's in the high-end iMac now, 4God.

And it has a TDP of 44 watts...it's not showing up in a Macbook near you, unless it ships with an external heat shield for your body!
Is that too hot for the 17" MBP? What's the max TDP 17" MBP can withstand?

I've been trying to get an answer to these questions for two weeks already. So please somebody know?
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Is that too hot for the 17" MBP? What's the max TDP 17" MBP can withstand?

I've been trying to get an answer to these questions for two weeks already. So please somebody know?
In short, probably not.

http://techgage.com/article/intel_co...850_quad-core/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2

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Old Aug 22, 2007, 08:03 PM   #11
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Engadget is saying new Intel chips for first quarter of 08 will clock as high as 3Ghz at 25-35 watts. http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/i...n-mobile-cpus/

Could this be the next update to the MBPs? At the rate its going, for those who want to have the newest MBP would have to purchase a new notebook every 6-8 months. Apple should have a lease program
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Engadget is saying new Intel chips for first quarter of 08 will clock as high as 3Ghz at 25-35 watts. http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/i...n-mobile-cpus/

Could this be the next update to the MBPs? At the rate its going, for those who want to have the newest MBP would have to purchase a new notebook every 6-8 months. Apple should have a lease program
And why would one need to have the newest components all the time?
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And why would one need to have the newest components all the time?
Not that I subscribe to this, but bragging right, for one
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 11:28 PM   #14
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I agree that we won't be seeing this. It'd be a bit too hot for the anorexic MBPs. I mean, if they weren't so thin-obsessed, sure, but while 44 Watts will fit in a 19-20 inch Alienware gaming beast with SLI, it's not getting in a no-desktop-replacement notebook
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 11:31 PM   #15
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And why would one need to have the newest components all the time?
i do

but ill believe a 25-30 watt 3ghz chip when i see one

the reason apple uses laptop chips in the imac is because they run cooler they also come at a premium which is why everyone dosent do that
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I wish my Mac was in date forever!! Get a sick feeling in the bottom of my stomach to see whats coming out next and knowing I cant get it!!!

Also as a reply to earlier, bragging rights are very important lol, at least in my group of friends
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I wish my Mac was in date forever!! Get a sick feeling in the bottom of my stomach to see whats coming out next
Not me. I bought the 24" iMac before the new ones with the cheaper screens came out.
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 04:27 PM   #20
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[Apple should have a lease program [/quote]

I have been saying this for years now. A lease program for Apple products financed by that barrel of cash Apple has.
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Intel Launches Mobile Extreme CPU (Already in iMac)



Intel announced the Core 2 Extreme X7900 yesterday at Games Convention 2007.

The 2.8GHz Merom processor offers a 4MB L2 cache with support for 800MHz Front Side Bus.

Readers will recognize this chip as the chip that was announced in the iMac on August 7th as a high end configuration. It appears that Apple is able to get preferential shipments on upcoming Intel processors. Intel had previously provided Apple with a 3.0GHz Xeon (Clovertown) processor with an early limited production.

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CPU-Z confirms this as well.
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very nice work.

i'm glad that Intel and Apple have a good relationship. much better than the Motorola/IBM days.
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very nice work.

i'm glad that Intel and Apple have a good relationship. much better than the Motorola/IBM days.
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure it makes both companies very happy.
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