**GOOD SCREEN**Screen Test Pictures of my Touch

WILLDOGS · 04:44 PM

Here are some screen test pictures that I have taken of my touch. This time I have a better camera unlike yesterday

Let me know if you see any issues?

WILLDOGS · 03:48 PM

*These boxes are grey in color*

Let me know what you think??

EDIT: For those who asked, here is the LCD calibration page posted by someone on here yesterday (sorry cant remember who)
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

owen-b · Sep 16, 2007, 09:45 AM

All looks good to me. It would be interesting to see some of those shots on another iPod though.

Arisian · Sep 16, 2007, 09:55 AM

Great screenshots. Can you post the link on thoughtsgonecrazy.net/touch-report.php.

Also soon I'll add ability to add and compare pics. Thanks

jockmock · Sep 16, 2007, 10:03 AM

it looks great! I hope mine will look like that

TheSpaz · Sep 16, 2007, 10:27 AM

I have a question. Does it only happen on videos or do you see it on the black home screen too?

FINALLY! Someone with PROOF that their iPod is flawless. What do you have to say to that! (All those people who said it was a perception problem for those who could not see it!)

I am Sampson · Sep 16, 2007, 10:29 AM

Where'd you get those test images from? (the scales of color/boxes etc).
I'd love to have them ready to test mine out with.

owen-b · Sep 16, 2007, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpaz

I have a question. Does it only happen on videos or do you see it on the black home screen too?

FINALLY! Someone with PROOF that their iPod is flawless. What do you have to say to that! (All those people who said it was a perception problem for those who could not see it!)

I say how long did it take you to find the exact precise angle to view the screen at.

jockmock · Sep 16, 2007, 10:32 AM

I don't think videos in that quality can look any better. When I look at my prepared videos I'm going to put on the touch, they look like that

TheSpaz · Sep 16, 2007, 10:36 AM

I have a theory. I bet it's a software problem because if it were a screen issue, you wouldn't ONLY see the problem in the black, you would see equally for every color if it were a viewing angle problem or polarizing problem. It seems like it could be some sort of core-image or core-video problem. Does it happen at the HOME screen? If it does not happen on the home screen, then it's probably a software problem.

WILLDOGS · Sep 16, 2007, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by owen-b

I say how long did it take you to find the exact precise angle to view the screen at.

No angles my man, they are as straight on as I could get them.

Why so negative?

Rapmastac1 · Sep 16, 2007, 10:54 AM

Everything looks legit to me, thanks for proving the negative ones wrong, don't be sooo pessimestic! I'm one of the more optimistic ones around here and I know my ipod will be flawless, if not then I will rain down on Apple's parade! If they don't gimme a new one, I will sit on the floor and scream!

awmazz · Sep 16, 2007, 11:00 AM

The default contrast is way too high. There is no visible detail in the dark face shadows or on the shirts or the tyre on the bus for instance. It's just solid black. (I personaly suspect that's the source of the 'negatives', it's so solid black it turns the glossy glass above it into a mirror, but I'm no expert).

How do they preset default contrast levels on LCD screens that otherwise have no contrast controls? Is it in firmware? System software? If so, I'm thinking it might be easily fixed.

If it's hardware, methinks I'll be postponing my pre-order (hahahaa ha haa haaa!! Did I just say pre-order?? Ha ha HA! Funny!) before it's due to ship by October 8, until they release rev2.

awmazz · Sep 16, 2007, 11:07 AM

Edit: I may have been describing the photographer's shadows across the screen itself, not the actual image, so I'm deleting what I just wrote in this post.

aidanpendragon · Sep 16, 2007, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awmazz

You can see the negative effect in the second image of the building exploding. At the edge of the explosion is an area of good solid black, but the large area of black in the top right corner surrounding it has gone negative. You can see the effect quite clearly.

You can also see it with the guy in the van. The top of his hair and the van roof interior disappears into negative black.

I guess people see things differentlt, so just my own observations. Feel free to disagree, just as I'm doing.

Compare to this thread - http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=355803. I assume the pics by OP here are at a top-down/zero-degree viewing angle. They definitely aren't inverted like in the 2nd thread I just mentioned.

QUESTION for the OP - did those screenshots come from a YouTube video? Which one? Want to test my own.

tangent7 · Sep 16, 2007, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awmazz

Edit: I may have been describing the photographer's shadows across the screen itself, not the actual image, so I'm deleting what I wrote.

that looks more like a reflection or glare to me.. like if you look at the top right corner of the explosion, just beyond that its black and I think thats the edge of his hand, beyond that is reflection/glare..could be wrong though

WILLDOGS · Sep 16, 2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awmazz

Edit: I may have been describing the photographer's shadows across the screen itself, not the actual image, so I'm deleting what I just wrote in this post.

Just so you know, you are seeing shadows of my hand in there, especially within the black area of the explosion. The "darker" parts of the black out edge of the explosion is my hand/fingers.

Sorry, I have overhead fluorescent lights here in the office.

WILLDOGS · Sep 16, 2007, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aidanpendragon

QUESTION for the OP - did those screenshots come from a YouTube video? Which one? Want to test my own.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IfRb-sWuDk

TonyHoyle · Sep 16, 2007, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awmazz

The default contrast is way too high. There is no visible detail in the dark face shadows or on the shirts or the tyre on the bus for instance. It's just solid black. (I personaly suspect that's the source of the 'negatives', it's so solid black it turns the glossy glass above it into a mirror, but I'm no expert).

I put that down to camera/lighting issues, given that the poster reckoned the picture was OK.

Edit: looking at the youtube video it looks like that on there too.. so it's just a poor source.

Scarpad · Sep 16, 2007, 11:27 AM

That was also not the best source to test as it seemed to be the Bootleg of Die Hard 3 that's been floating around the Net. Can you do the same test with an encoded DVD that you own.

awmazz · Sep 16, 2007, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyHoyle

: looking at the youtube video it looks like that on there too.. so it's just a poor source.

Good point. A very dark movie with lots of detail in the shadows would be the best test. Something like the first Batman movie.

Don't even need the movie, just a still shot from it as I've read the effect is on photos too.

Antimatter · Sep 16, 2007, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WILLDOGS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IfRb-sWuDk

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the calibration pictures.

I would like to know where you got those as well.

queshy · Sep 16, 2007, 02:37 PM

Nice pics! I hope that when my touch arrives (sometime in october...grrrr) that it looks like that!

WILLDOGS · Sep 16, 2007, 03:43 PM

Here are a couple from a ripped copy of the matrix from DVD:

VIDEO of Touch playing The Matrix:
http://www.compugenius.com/ipod/ipodtouch_test.wmv

**Keep in mind that the camera washes out the picture a bit. It looks better than the pictures and video show.

__

WILLDOGS · Sep 16, 2007, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antimatter

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the calibration pictures.

I would like to know where you got those as well.

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

Sep 16, 2007, 09:40 AM	#1
WILLDOGS macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2007	GOOD SCREENScreen Test Pictures of my Touch Here are some screen test pictures that I have taken of my touch. This time I have a better camera unlike yesterday Let me know if you see any issues? Last edited by WILLDOGS : Sep 16, 2007 at 04:44 PM.

Sep 16, 2007, 09:42 AM	#2
WILLDOGS Thread Starter macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2007	These boxes are grey in color Let me know what you think?? EDIT: For those who asked, here is the LCD calibration page posted by someone on here yesterday (sorry cant remember who) http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ Last edited by WILLDOGS : Sep 16, 2007 at 03:48 PM.

Sep 16, 2007, 09:55 AM	#4
Arisian macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: around	Helpful Great screenshots. Can you post the link on thoughtsgonecrazy.net/touch-report.php. Also soon I'll add ability to add and compare pics. Thanks __________________ ::PowerBook G4 : MacbookPro 2.6ghz; 4g RAM :: iPod Touch 16g : iPhone 2g : 24' cinema display::

Sep 16, 2007, 10:54 AM	#12
Rapmastac1 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the Depths of the SLC!	Everything looks legit to me, thanks for proving the negative ones wrong, don't be sooo pessimestic! I'm one of the more optimistic ones around here and I know my ipod will be flawless, if not then I will rain down on Apple's parade! If they don't gimme a new one, I will sit on the floor and scream! __________________ 20" iMac (2.0Ghz+3gb Ram+640gb HD, Leopard) + 16GB 1st Gen iPod Touch, Jailbroken 3.0.1.

Sep 16, 2007, 02:37 PM	#23
queshy macrumors 68040 Join Date: Apr 2005	Nice pics! I hope that when my touch arrives (sometime in october...grrrr) that it looks like that! __________________ "I always feel sorry for the guy in the iPhone commercials. He always gets a call right in the middle of trying to do something" (one1).

Sep 16, 2007, 09:45 AM	#3
owen-b macrumors regular Join Date: Nov 2005	All looks good to me. It would be interesting to see some of those shots on another iPod though.

Sep 16, 2007, 10:03 AM	#5
jockmock macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2007	it looks great! I hope mine will look like that

Sep 16, 2007, 10:27 AM	#6
TheSpaz macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jun 2005	I have a question. Does it only happen on videos or do you see it on the black home screen too? FINALLY! Someone with PROOF that their iPod is flawless. What do you have to say to that! (All those people who said it was a perception problem for those who could not see it!)

Sep 16, 2007, 10:29 AM	#7
I am Sampson macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Plymouth, UK	Where'd you get those test images from? (the scales of color/boxes etc). I'd love to have them ready to test mine out with.

Sep 16, 2007, 10:32 AM	#9
jockmock macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2007	I don't think videos in that quality can look any better. When I look at my prepared videos I'm going to put on the touch, they look like that

Sep 16, 2007, 10:36 AM	#10
TheSpaz macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jun 2005	I have a theory. I bet it's a software problem because if it were a screen issue, you wouldn't ONLY see the problem in the black, you would see equally for every color if it were a viewing angle problem or polarizing problem. It seems like it could be some sort of core-image or core-video problem. Does it happen at the HOME screen? If it does not happen on the home screen, then it's probably a software problem.

Sep 16, 2007, 11:00 AM	#13
awmazz macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: australia	The default contrast is way too high. There is no visible detail in the dark face shadows or on the shirts or the tyre on the bus for instance. It's just solid black. (I personaly suspect that's the source of the 'negatives', it's so solid black it turns the glossy glass above it into a mirror, but I'm no expert). How do they preset default contrast levels on LCD screens that otherwise have no contrast controls? Is it in firmware? System software? If so, I'm thinking it might be easily fixed. If it's hardware, methinks I'll be postponing my pre-order (hahahaa ha haa haaa!! Did I just say pre-order?? Ha ha HA! Funny!) before it's due to ship by October 8, until they release rev2.

Sep 16, 2007, 11:07 AM	#14
awmazz macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: australia	Edit: I may have been describing the photographer's shadows across the screen itself, not the actual image, so I'm deleting what I just wrote in this post.

Sep 16, 2007, 11:27 AM	#20
Scarpad macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2005	That was also not the best source to test as it seemed to be the Bootleg of Die Hard 3 that's been floating around the Net. Can you do the same test with an encoded DVD that you own.

Sep 16, 2007, 03:43 PM	#24
WILLDOGS Thread Starter macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2007	Here are a couple from a ripped copy of the matrix from DVD: VIDEO of Touch playing The Matrix: http://www.compugenius.com/ipod/ipodtouch_test.wmv **Keep in mind that the camera washes out the picture a bit. It looks better than the pictures and video show. __

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