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Old Aug 23, 2003, 01:05 AM   #1
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New iPods not built for running

Just found out to my disgust that my new 15G iPod cannot be used for running. I bought it for my forthcoming Marathon training runs. It quits after 20 minutes. Also found out at the Apple discussion forums that this has been an old issue. For all you runners out there, beware. Don't make the same expensive mistake I did, if you intend to use the iPod for running.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 01:21 AM   #2
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Huh, really. Thought the ipod had a buffer. It skips or won't play when jostled? Maybe strapping it to your arm when running will alleviate some of the shocks and jolts it receives when otherwise placed on your hip.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 01:25 AM   #3
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Is it the battery dying, or the 20-min anti-skip buffer running out? In either case, it's weird.

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Old Aug 23, 2003, 01:34 AM   #4
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I don't know what you must do when you run, but I can run fine with my iPod. I carry it in my hand, don't take the case....

the only problem I had was the headphones sometimes bouncing out of my ears but I solved that by putting the cable down my shirt. The only reason I ever go for a run is because of my iPod. Running to music is soooo much more motivating than without.

Tell us more about your problem, what sort of music are you listening to because I can definitely run fine and have been since my first generation iPod, and this is my third...
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 01:37 AM   #5
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Could be a buffer problem...

...or is it just that you run like Phoebe from Friends?

In all seriousness, I think you should take the time to ask the folks at the genius bar (I'm assuming you're on Oahu). No reason to suffer if it's something they can fix.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 01:40 AM   #6
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there is a 20-minute memory buffer, much better than the minute or two of skip-protection that other devices offer... only thing better is solid state, but that's a *lot* more expensive per meg (they're cheaper but have substancially less memory). Most people are able to use their iPods in a variety of physical settings with no problems. I think you're being unusually hard on the iPod somehow, my partner jogs for hours with no problem... are you holding it, or clipping it to your waist, or putting it in your pocket (bad idea)? remember, the less vibrations, the better, and having the thing slapping against your body is not a good idea...

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Old Aug 23, 2003, 04:20 AM   #7
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I had mine in the pouch that was part of the 15G package. My running speed is only at 11 min./mile, not even close to hard running at all. Looks like it's probably ok as long as you don't go past the 20- minute anti skip buffer. Holding it in my hands will surely do the trick to minimize the vibration but it's not a good option for my long runs. I am too clumsy to have something in my hands for an extended time period.

Oh well, I will just keep it for its awesome music and good looks. Got everybody at my Realty office in awe when I pulled it out to synch with my Powerbook 17 as they were all cleaning up their email boxes with thousands of messages from the email worm!
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I jog with the NEW 3G iPod...And seriously, I have no problems.....I do hold it with my hand, so it can work if you give up a little convience...My 2.
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Re: New iPods not built for running

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Originally posted by macrat
Just found out to my disgust that my new 15G iPod cannot be used for running. I bought it for my forthcoming Marathon training runs. It quits after 20 minutes. Also found out at the Apple discussion forums that this has been an old issue. For all you runners out there, beware. Don't make the same expensive mistake I did, if you intend to use the iPod for running.
I started a thread about this topic some weeks ago. I wanted to buy an iPod for running as well. But after the replys (you can find here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...threadid=33955

I decided not to get one. I am in training for my next marathon as well. If you are running more than 2h-3h its for me not an option to hold the iPod in my hand. I need to drink a lot during running and need my hands to be free. Instead I bought an Creative muvo which is compared by the Specs and what it can by far not comparable with the iPod. But the most important thing for me was that I can use it while running. And therefore it works perfect.

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Old Aug 23, 2003, 06:56 AM   #10
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I also run quite a bit. 3/4 times a week 10KM or more. ANd I found the ipod completely unusable. It skips or stops playing. I don't hold in my hand. I can't concentrate on running if I have something in my hand the whole time that I DON'T wanna drop. I just put it inside my running pants. And that doesn't work.
Maybe an arm strap or waist strap does work?
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 07:53 AM   #11
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I think this is supposed to be pretty good. Seems suitable to a lot of people's needs.

http://speckproducts.com/isport/index.html
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 09:06 AM   #12
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That looks like the perfect solution for long runs with the iPod. It looks pretty good too.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 09:10 AM   #13
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haha.
sorry but I can't take that too serious.
If you are running a bit. like 2 miles every week, maybe it's suitable but I can't believe it's very comfortable if you are really into serious sporting.
it's bulky.
lol. especially the part in discription: easy storage for credit cards and id.
like I need that when I go running. but ok...
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 09:22 AM   #14
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don't you take an ID with tho....
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 11:37 AM   #15
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Maybe an arm strap or waist strap does work?
I was thinking an arm strap might work sense it would help the iPod move w/yer body and not bounce against it.


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Old Aug 23, 2003, 01:00 PM   #16
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That belt strap looks awful, but I am sure that there are alternatives out there. Look for an arm strap, eh?
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 03:50 PM   #17
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don't you take an ID with tho....
Nope.
I carry my drivers license in my wallet, but I dont have that with me all the time.
I don't see why.

I'll look for an armstrap for my ipod.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 04:16 PM   #18
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Nope.
I carry my drivers license in my wallet, but I dont have that with me all the time.
I don't see why.
It is a good thing to always carry some sort of ID... what if you get into an accident/somebody finds you unconcious ?
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 04:26 PM   #19
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Re: John Doe

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It is a good thing to always carry some sort of ID... what if you get into an accident/somebody finds you unconcious ?
I just hope they carry me too a hospital

I know it's sometimes better too carry it with you. But I refuse too identify myself each time the police tell you too.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 04:28 PM   #20
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etoiles is right. You should carry a photo ID with you at all times when you are out running, particularly if you go running in wilderness areas (including state and national parks) or if you run alongside streets. If a car hits you or you get attacked by an animal or something, that ID is the only way that emergency services can contact your family, pull up your medical history, get your insurance information, and so on.

If you don't have any pockets, tuck your ID into your shoe or something. It's REALLY important.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 05:00 PM   #21
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ah c'mon it's not THAT important.
Some people get so freaked out over what MIGHT happen to them.
Don't overreact.

Well I'm off to bed.
(without my ID)

And back to topic

Still haven't found a good arm-strap.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 05:54 PM   #22
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Doesn't work for me either.

I also bought an iPod (20GB) with the dream of long runs with lots of cool music (Tool and Korn make you run faster). I had a Rio and it only stored an hour of music and you had to reload for every run if you wanted to change the tunes. Unfortunately I've found that the iPod locks up when runnning. I keep it clipped to my waist. I've had this happen when running on the road as well as on a treadmill. I haven't tried the arm band. Maybe less jarring?

As for ID, I personally recommend the RoadID (http://www.RoadID.com). You can have your name, address, and contact number. According to an Active.com article (http://www.active.com/story.cfm?story_id=9883) approximately 400,000 athletes are taken to the hospital EACH YEAR unconsious and unidentified. It's not quite as rare as a lot of people think.

NOTE: I have no affiliation with RoadID other than as a customer.
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ah c'mon it's not THAT important.
Some people get so freaked out over what MIGHT happen to them.
Don't overreact.
How bad do you really think it will be to carry an ID? Sure, it might not happen to you, but it's not a huge deal to carry ID with you and if something DOES happen, you're that much better off for it.
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 06:46 PM   #24
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here is another idea (no pun intended):
Just have your name engraved on your ipod...once you figure out how to keep it from skipping...and make sure it is attached to whatever bodypart you are least likely to lose in an accident
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 07:37 PM   #25
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Re: Doesn't work for me either.

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I also bought an iPod (20GB) with the dream of long runs with lots of cool music (Tool and Korn make you run faster). I had a Rio and it only stored an hour of music and you had to reload for every run if you wanted to change the tunes. Unfortunately I've found that the iPod locks up when runnning.
This is the same thing that happens to me. I was out for a long run and after about 20 minutes it locked up (like frozen). Wouldn't play, wouldnt respond to any button pushing. Display was stuck showing it as partway through a song. I stopped for a few minutes thinking the ipod had overheated or something (I had been holding it in my hand, so I didn't think it was something related to jostling). It felt cool to the touch. I continued to run with it for another couple hours (had to carry the whole damn thing since I wasnt going to turn back). When I got home I plugged it in to the wall (still frozen) and when I came back after a few hours it was finally working again.

Thats the only time I tried to run with it. I like my hands free and it seems to big and bulky to carry any other way. I gave it a shot and it quit pretty quickly.
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