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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:11 PM   #1
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Apple says iPhone unlocking may cause permanent damage

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http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...nt_damage.html

"Apple said Monday that many of the unauthorized iPhone unlocking programs available on the Internet cause irreparable damage to the iPhone's software, which will likely result in the modified iPhone becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone software update is installed.

The Cupertino-based company said it plans to release the next iPhone software update, containing many new features including the iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store, later this week.

"Apple strongly discourages users from installing unauthorized unlocking programs on their iPhones," the company wrote in a statement to the press. "Users who make unauthorized modifications to the software on their iPhone violate their iPhone software license agreement and void their warranty."

Apple added that the "permanent inability to use an iPhone due to installing unlocking software is not covered under the iPhone's warranty.""
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:16 PM   #2
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Apple Issues Warning on iPhone Unlocking



Apple has issued a statement today that programs available for the iPhone to SIM unlock it could cause "irreparable damage to the device."
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The maker of the Mac computer, the iPod digital music player and iTunes online store said that, once an Apple- supplied software update is installed on the iPhone, it "will likely result in the modified iPhone becoming permanently inoperable."
Apple plans to release the next iPhone software update later this week.

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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:17 PM   #3
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You all knew it was coming..
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:18 PM   #4
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thats crazy, can we get our updates now?
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:18 PM   #5
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That stinks. Makes sense. But, stinks.

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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:18 PM   #6
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WHAT!!!!


noooooooooo
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:19 PM   #7
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Ya.It's called common sense.
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So the question that begs to be asked, is Apple doing this intentionally or is it just an inevitable part of the software update process??

Regardless, I guess this just means that anyone with a hacked iPhone won't be installing Apple updates.
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:19 PM   #9
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makes sense, but apple will get backhanded in the EU in no time.
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:20 PM   #10
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Well if they'd release it in Canada, then we would have this problem. WHAT'S THE HOLDUP?
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:21 PM   #11
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since when can you not do a restore of the software to get it back to normal?


sounds like a scare tactic to me
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:22 PM   #12
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Well, at least they're telling us now. Well, at least I was a good sheep and went with AT&T.

Actually I was already on AT&T way before I got the iPhone so, it wasn't a problem.

Anyway, this is hardly surprising. So where is this update anyway?
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since when can you not do a restore of the software to get it back to normal?
A restore doesn't reverse the unlock. The unlock changes the modem firmware I believe... but regardless, it is restore resistant.

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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:22 PM   #14
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So the question that begs to be asked, is Apple doing this intentionally or is it just an inevitable part of the software update process?
You will never know. Inevitably or intentionally.
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:22 PM   #15
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It sound's like a warning before another firmware update.

The only thing I have on my phone are 3rd party updates.
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:22 PM   #16
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why is apple being so mean about this? what does it really matter? some extra revenue for them off of selling to at&t? thats just stupid. apple doest partner with any ISP for computers. "you can only use an apple computer with such and such ISP" come on now.
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:22 PM   #17
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"irreparable damage to the device."

Irreparable damage to their yearly profits more like

But yeah, you hack/unlock/generally mess about with the iPhone in ways they don't like, you're stuffed if something goes pear-shaped and you'll not be wanting to go near any updates. I think any reasonable person would realise this.

Though I don't really believe any software issue could irreparably damage the hardware to be honest, anyone got any idea how that would be possible?
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since when can you not do a restore of the software to get it back to normal?


sounds like a scare tactic to me
When you do a restore you are restoring to a previous dmg stored on your computer.Apple will be updating the firmware also.The firmware resides on the iPhone.
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:23 PM   #19
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What was left out here from the announcement by Apple is the following:

"The Cupertino-based company said it plans to release the next iPhone software update, containing many new features including the iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store, later this week. "
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:23 PM   #20
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Is this exclusive to unlocking programs or does having any 3rd party app make a phone susceptible?
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:23 PM   #21
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No big deal

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Ya.It's called common sense.
Just reset the iphone to original factory settings before installing the update. After that (or shortly thereafter) unlock the phone again (after updates are made to iFuntastic, et.al.) and reinstall your apps.
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:24 PM   #22
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haha good!

its like the xbox 360 updates all over again! manufacturers 1 - hackers 0!
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:24 PM   #23
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does this apply to all hacks? or just unlocking? It was my understanding that if i installed apptapp and other software that is associated with it, then all i had to do was perform a restore in iTunes and my phone would be back to factory settings?
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does this apply to all hacks? or just unlocking? It was my understanding that if i installed apptapp and other software that is associated with it, then all i had to do was perform a restore in iTunes and my phone would be back to factory settings?
right... seems this just refers to SIM Unlocking your iphone.

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Old Sep 24, 2007, 05:25 PM   #25
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Bad wording?

I'm not sure if the problem is as extreme as they are saying, but I can see them fighting to keep their phones off of networks other than AT&T. So the "updated" phones will break all the SIM unlocking, bringing the phone to the updated, yet virgin state.

If all your upgrading is the software, I don't see what permanent damage can be done.

But, I USE AT&T, so...no worries really ;-)
(Except that I'll have to remod my software for all the 'cool' stuff after every upgrade...)
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