voting machine company head committed to getting votes for bush

zimv20 · Aug 30, 2003, 12:12 AM

http://www.cleveland.com/politics/in...7393874610.xml

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The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. - who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush - prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O'Dell's company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.

mcrain · Aug 30, 2003, 07:25 PM

Gee, the head of a big company that could stand to make huge amounts of money off the Federal Government supporting Bush Jr.? What are the odds of that?

AppleManEric · Aug 30, 2003, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by mcrain
Gee, the head of a big company that could stand to make huge amounts of money off the Federal Government supporting Bush Jr.? What are the odds of that?

tsh, yeah... lol

Maclarny · Aug 30, 2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by mcrain
Gee, the head of a big company that could stand to make huge amounts of money off the Federal Government supporting Bush Jr.? What are the odds of that?

LOL! 'nuff said

Backtothemac · Aug 30, 2003, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by mcrain
Gee, the head of a big company that could stand to make huge amounts of money off the Federal Government supporting Bush Jr.? What are the odds of that?

Oh come on, like there are not heads of companies that put huge amounts of money into democrats elections either

pseudobrit · Aug 30, 2003, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by Backtothemac
Oh come on, like there are not heads of companies that put huge amounts of money into democrats elections either

Yeah, heads of voting maching companies...

(perhaps this might be another one of those appearances of impropriety)

bobindashadows · Aug 30, 2003, 08:39 PM

I thought that it was posted to throw out the idea that the voting machine company is going to fake the results to put President Bush in power.

pseudobrit · Aug 30, 2003, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by bobindashadows
I thought that it was posted to throw out the idea that the voting machine company is going to fake the results to put President Bush in power.

Why would they need to? All they need to do is leave backdoors in the system and let someone else fake the results.

No paper; no paper trail; no evidence of fraud.

bobindashadows · Aug 30, 2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by pseudobrit
Why would they need to? All they need to do is leave backdoors in the system and let someone else fake the results.

No paper; no paper trail; no evidence of fraud.

You get the idea of what I was talking about - I was saying this was posted so that people could say, should President Bush win, "oh they faked it all he didn't get any votes I hate Bush"

pseudobrit · Aug 30, 2003, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by bobindashadows
You get the idea of what I was talking about - I was saying this was posted so that people could say, should President Bush win, "oh they faked it all he didn't get any votes I hate Bush"

Or maybe this was posted so people will be aware of the potential for abuse and maybe it won't happen.

If we ignore potential abuses, someone will abuse our ignorance.

pseudobrit · Aug 30, 2003, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by bobindashadows
You get the idea of what I was talking about - I was saying this was posted so that people could say, should President Bush win, "oh they faked it all he didn't get any votes I hate Bush"

[Alternate response]
He's already shown he doesn't need to get more than 5 votes to win.

zimv20 · Aug 31, 2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by bobindashadows
"oh they faked it all he didn't get any votes I hate Bush"

is that how you think i punctuate?

mcrain · Aug 31, 2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by zimv20
is that how you think i punctuate?

Or lack thereof.

modyouup · Sep 3, 2003, 09:17 PM

These stupid Diebold machines have already been PROVEN to be poorly designed and they have many flaws where someone could easily change vote results. Even if the company doesn't support bu$h, the republicans are going to alter the results anyway. We need to takes these machines and smash them! Electronic voting is not secure and not easier than mechanical machines! Bring back the mechanical ones, we don't need more computers for republicans to tamper with.

In SEVERAL elections accross the country where Diebold machines are used the republicans have already altered results. In so many instances, the democrats are in favor in polls beforehand but then lose when the election happens. It happened to many times to be a coincidence.

mactastic · Sep 3, 2003, 11:22 PM

You have any proof of that besides what you say?

modyouup · Sep 4, 2003, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by mactastic
You have any proof of that besides what you say?

Yeah......

http://www.bartcop.com/111102fraud.htm

mactastic · Sep 4, 2003, 10:56 AM

Ok, thats a start. I remember Mondale going down from the time he announced though, so I can't really say that the fact that several races went republican is evidence that those machines were tampered with or the results somehow altered. Is there an article that details why something other than bad polling data or a candidate trending up/down should be assumed?

modyouup · Sep 4, 2003, 10:59 AM

Take a gander at this.....

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/vote_fraud.html

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mactastic macrumors 68040 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Colly-fornia	Ok, thats a start. I remember Mondale going down from the time he announced though, so I can't really say that the fact that several races went republican is evidence that those machines were tampered with or the results somehow altered. Is there an article that details why something other than bad polling data or a candidate trending up/down should be assumed? __________________ Such is the distillation of the conservative's mindset: he has, I want, and you should allow me to take.
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Aug 30, 2003, 08:39 PM	#7
bobindashadows macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2002	I thought that it was posted to throw out the idea that the voting machine company is going to fake the results to put President Bush in power.
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Sep 3, 2003, 09:17 PM	#14
modyouup macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2002	These stupid Diebold machines have already been PROVEN to be poorly designed and they have many flaws where someone could easily change vote results. Even if the company doesn't support bu$h, the republicans are going to alter the results anyway. We need to takes these machines and smash them! Electronic voting is not secure and not easier than mechanical machines! Bring back the mechanical ones, we don't need more computers for republicans to tamper with. In SEVERAL elections accross the country where Diebold machines are used the republicans have already altered results. In so many instances, the democrats are in favor in polls beforehand but then lose when the election happens. It happened to many times to be a coincidence.
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Sep 4, 2003, 10:59 AM	#18
modyouup macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2002	Take a gander at this..... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/vote_fraud.html
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