Panther 7B53

MacRumors · 10:45 AM

Apple seeded Panther and XCode 7B53 versions today -- which includes the usual round of bug fixes and remaining 'known issues'.

Of interest, Apple writes: "We are fast approaching first candidate build" in the included Seed Notes provided to developers. (as noted by ThinkSecret today)

As Apple ramps up towards as final release (aka Gold Master) of an Operating System, they typically go through a variable number of "Final Candidate" releases for final testing/bug fixes.

PyroTurtle · Sep 1, 2003, 02:17 PM

ya, it's a cool new version...little faster on the G4 than the others...
just need a G5 to really test it out eh?

FredAkbar · Sep 1, 2003, 02:47 PM

So no new features? Just speed/performance increases?

I think Panther is on track for a September announcement and September/October shipping.

morlium · Sep 1, 2003, 03:24 PM

yes sir .... after all, Oct. 3 (10.3) falls on a Friday.

FredAkbar · Sep 1, 2003, 03:43 PM

Ah...I didn't even think of the "10.3" (Oct 3) release date possibility. Neat

bobindashadows · Sep 1, 2003, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FredAkbar
Ah...I didn't even think of the "10.3" (Oct 3) release date possibility. Neat

yeah, that's an awesome idea.

sickracer2015 · Sep 1, 2003, 04:17 PM

anyone see it on the adc site yet? or still just on the appleseed?

AppleMatt · 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sickracer2015
anyone see it on the adc site yet? or still just on the appleseed?

AppleSeed at the mo.

Quote:

Originally posted by PyroTurtle
ya, it's a cool new version...little faster on the G4 than the others...
just need a G5 to really test it out eh?

How do you know this? Assuming I'm wrong and within the last few minutes it's been made available, what connection do you have to download (at least) a gig that fast? And then install & test it?!

AppleMatt

daveL · Sep 1, 2003, 05:28 PM

Must have just gone up.

AppleMatt: I think the other person was just taking the comments from AppleInsider in the most generous light

cubist · Sep 1, 2003, 05:45 PM

Since this is in fact a news item and not a rumor at all, it would seem that it would justify a Page 1 placement.

FTM, the creaky old "Apple on Intel" rumor should have been on page 2 - if only because there is no page 3.

arn · Sep 1, 2003, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cubist
Since this is in fact a news item and not a rumor at all, it would seem that it would justify a Page 1 placement.

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/...25152925.shtml

Quote:

Page 2 also may collect minor tidbits and links, that are not detailed enough to write a full article about.

that being said, ThinkSecret has added enough information to upgrade this to a first page post.

arn

alia · Sep 1, 2003, 06:26 PM

This is pretty exciting.

My mom has been waiting diligently for Panther to be released. She has 10.1 and didn't want to upgrade to Jaguar if Panther was going to be right around the corner. I guess procrastination works sometimes.

Anyway, hopefully the mid-October thing is true. Yay!

Now if only they'd update their Powerbooks!

Alia

Freg3000 · Sep 1, 2003, 06:34 PM

October 3rd for 10.3 would be the perfect Apple touch.

"10.3 on 10-3."

Although it wouldn't mean that much internationally.

I am a bit confused. I know that the last 10.2.x updates have seeds numbers with 4 digits. But I seem to remember that the GM Jaguar seed was 6C115. That is 5 digits. Is there anything to this, or is this just normal?

tizza · Sep 1, 2003, 06:39 PM

This is excellent news - and yes I love that 10.3 release idea!!

bobindashadows · Sep 1, 2003, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Freg3000
October 3rd for 10.3 would be the perfect Apple touch.

"10.3 on 10-3."

Although it wouldn't mean that much internationally.

I am a bit confused. I know that the last 10.2.x updates have seeds numbers with 4 digits. But I seem to remember that the GM Jaguar seed was 6C115. That is 5 digits. Is there anything to this, or is this just normal?

I don't know. I always do build numbers as.... uhh... numbers. Like v1, v2, v3.

Rincewind42 · Sep 1, 2003, 06:51 PM

Bah, and I was just going to file a few bugs tommorow... now they prolly won't be fixed until 10.3.1, or worse, 10.4

bennetsaysargh · Sep 1, 2003, 07:02 PM

yay!
getting closer

i really like the 10.3 and 10/3 idea

perfect night for an apple store event

Catfish_Man · Sep 1, 2003, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Freg3000
October 3rd for 10.3 would be the perfect Apple touch.

"10.3 on 10-3."

Although it wouldn't mean that much internationally.

I am a bit confused. I know that the last 10.2.x updates have seeds numbers with 4 digits. But I seem to remember that the GM Jaguar seed was 6C115. That is 5 digits. Is there anything to this, or is this just normal?

6C115:
6: Darwin major version. Corresponds to 10.2
C: Specifies the "fork" of the code that the build came from (I'm not sure about this, but the first and last ones I'm pretty sure about)
115: The build number

henryblackman · Sep 1, 2003, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rincewind42
Bah, and I was just going to file a few bugs tommorow... now they prolly won't be fixed until 10.3.1, or worse, 10.4

As an ADC Select member myself, you should definately file all the bugs you can find in this seed. If they know about them they usually fix them, if they don't know about them they'll never get fixed.

At least you can watch the status of the bug.

whooleytoo · Sep 1, 2003, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Freg3000 "10.3 on 10-3."

Although it wouldn't mean that much internationally.

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Heheh. So either Panther is 7 months late here in Europe or (more likely) 5 months early! Perhaps that's why Steve is coming over for the Paris Expo - to launch MacOS 3.10? :-)

fatfish · Sep 1, 2003, 07:25 PM

October 3rd for 10.3 would be the perfect Apple touch.

"10.3 on 10-3."

Although it wouldn't mean that much internationally

--------------------------------------------------
I assume you mean it wouldn't mean that much internationally because it's only North America that writes the month before the day in digit form.

Not quite true, I do it all the time, I usually start my file names with the date and unless you put the month first, they're all messed up in a list.

I know I'm not the only one outside of NA to do this.

Also nobody here refers to the 11-9 incident.

So let's make it 10.3 on 10-3 Apple

henryblackman · Sep 1, 2003, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AppleMatt
AppleSeed at the mo.

What is AppleSeed? It's the first time I've heard of it?

daveL · Sep 1, 2003, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by henryblackman
What is AppleSeed? It's the first time I've heard of it?

It's a non-ADC beta program, i.e. a beta program for end users, rather than developers (who can sometimes be myoptic (sp?)). I forget where the page is, but you can find the sign-up info on the Apple site. They only maintain a set number of folkds, so you may be rejected (not personally, of course) if they already have enough participants.

Longey Nowze · Sep 1, 2003, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rincewind42
Bah, and I was just going to file a few bugs tommorow... now they prolly won't be fixed until 10.3.1, or worse, 10.4

what kinda of bugs? can you tell us or is there some sort of NDA? if so I wont tell anyone it was you

thank you
MaT

Macmaniac · Sep 1, 2003, 10:06 PM

A day after my birthday

What a wonderful gift.

Sep 1, 2003, 01:20 PM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Panther 7B53 Apple seeded Panther and XCode 7B53 versions today -- which includes the usual round of bug fixes and remaining 'known issues'. Of interest, Apple writes: "We are fast approaching first candidate build" in the included Seed Notes provided to developers. (as noted by ThinkSecret today) As Apple ramps up towards as final release (aka Gold Master) of an Operating System, they typically go through a variable number of "Final Candidate" releases for final testing/bug fixes. Last edited by arn : Sep 2, 2003 at 10:45 AM.

Sep 1, 2003, 02:17 PM	#2
PyroTurtle macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 10 Minutes from Disneyland	ya, it's a cool new version...little faster on the G4 than the others... just need a G5 to really test it out eh? __________________ www.savefarscape.com "frell" - john chriton

Sep 1, 2003, 02:47 PM	#3
FredAkbar macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA	So no new features? Just speed/performance increases? I think Panther is on track for a September announcement and September/October shipping. __________________ Fred 20" iMac (early 2006) / 2.0 GHz Core Duo / 2 GB / OS 10.5.6 AdiumX \| FreeRice

Sep 1, 2003, 03:24 PM	#4
morlium macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2002	yes sir .... after all, Oct. 3 (10.3) falls on a Friday. __________________ Check out my latest work.

Sep 1, 2003, 03:43 PM	#5
FredAkbar macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA	Ah...I didn't even think of the "10.3" (Oct 3) release date possibility. Neat __________________ Fred 20" iMac (early 2006) / 2.0 GHz Core Duo / 2 GB / OS 10.5.6 AdiumX \| FreeRice

Sep 1, 2003, 04:17 PM	#7
sickracer2015 macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2003	anyone see it on the adc site yet? or still just on the appleseed?

Sep 1, 2003, 05:28 PM	#9
daveL macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Montana	It's on ADC NOW Must have just gone up. AppleMatt: I think the other person was just taking the comments from AppleInsider in the most generous light __________________ -daveL

Sep 1, 2003, 05:45 PM	#10
cubist macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Muncie, Indiana	Hey Arn... Since this is in fact a news item and not a rumor at all, it would seem that it would justify a Page 1 placement. FTM, the creaky old "Apple on Intel" rumor should have been on page 2 - if only because there is no page 3.

Sep 1, 2003, 06:26 PM	#12
alia macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gainesville, FL	This is pretty exciting. My mom has been waiting diligently for Panther to be released. She has 10.1 and didn't want to upgrade to Jaguar if Panther was going to be right around the corner. I guess procrastination works sometimes. Anyway, hopefully the mid-October thing is true. Yay! Now if only they'd update their Powerbooks! Alia __________________ Proud owner of a 1.25 Ghz 15" Powerbook Check out my photography

Sep 1, 2003, 06:34 PM	#13
Freg3000 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York	October 3rd for 10.3 would be the perfect Apple touch. "10.3 on 10-3." Although it wouldn't mean that much internationally. I am a bit confused. I know that the last 10.2.x updates have seeds numbers with 4 digits. But I seem to remember that the GM Jaguar seed was 6C115. That is 5 digits. Is there anything to this, or is this just normal? __________________ FregTK This Is Momentum.

Sep 1, 2003, 06:39 PM	#14
tizza macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia	This is excellent news - and yes I love that 10.3 release idea!!

Sep 1, 2003, 06:51 PM	#16
Rincewind42 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando, FL	Bah, and I was just going to file a few bugs tommorow... now they prolly won't be fixed until 10.3.1, or worse, 10.4

Sep 1, 2003, 07:02 PM	#17
bennetsaysargh macrumors 68020 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York	yay! getting closer i really like the 10.3 and 10/3 idea perfect night for an apple store event

Sep 1, 2003, 07:25 PM	#21
fatfish macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Poulton-le-Fylde, UK	10-3 October 3rd for 10.3 would be the perfect Apple touch. "10.3 on 10-3." Although it wouldn't mean that much internationally -------------------------------------------------- I assume you mean it wouldn't mean that much internationally because it's only North America that writes the month before the day in digit form. Not quite true, I do it all the time, I usually start my file names with the date and unless you put the month first, they're all messed up in a list. I know I'm not the only one outside of NA to do this. Also nobody here refers to the 11-9 incident. So let's make it 10.3 on 10-3 Apple __________________ British NOT European G5 D2.5, 30" Apple Display, 6800U, 2Gb RAM, 4.7Tb HD, X.4.7. (1 MBP, 2 g4 imacs, 1 g3 imac, 2 g4 PM, 1 g3 PM, 1 ibook)

Sep 1, 2003, 10:06 PM	#25
Macmaniac macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A tiny spec in the "Garden State", 1 square mile in area, somewhere on the outskirts of town by the railroad tracks	A day after my birthday What a wonderful gift. __________________ The customer is NOT always right

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