Apple iTunes Offers Led Zeppelin Digital Box Set

MacRumors · Oct 23, 2007, 11:23 AM

Apple announced today that they would be offering a special digital box set containing Led Zeppelin's entire discography, "The Complete Led Zeppelin," for exclusive pre-order on iTunes.

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We're excited to offer Led Zeppelin's entire catalog as a special digital box set with this pre-order," said Eddy Cue, Apple's vice president of iTunes. "Now you can get all of the band's albums with one click for an incredible $99."

Led Zeppelin's entire catalog of songs and albums will also be available for individual purchase and download beginning November 13. Led Zeppelin had been one of the high profile hold-outs on digital distribution of their music.

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twoodcc · Oct 23, 2007, 11:25 AM

awesome! glad they finally gave in

queshy · Oct 23, 2007, 11:25 AM

Hmm..maybe a new Led Zeppelin iPod is coming!

Kernow · Oct 23, 2007, 11:28 AM

Excellent! I have all the albums on vinyl (stolen from my dad's record collection

) but have never got around to getting versions I can listen to on my iPod.

fanbrain · Oct 23, 2007, 11:29 AM

$99? Wow. Is it the higher quality version? If so, I wouldn't mind my own digital box set.

Squonk · Oct 23, 2007, 11:30 AM

Wahoo!!! Time to get the Led out! Excellent news!!! I can only hope this will be available in iTunes Plus format... Otherwise, I'll stick to me ripped CD's with Apple Lossless format...

BWhaler · Oct 23, 2007, 11:31 AM

I couldn't buy this fast enough. Awesome.

aricher · Oct 23, 2007, 11:33 AM

Dunno why but this is the first thing that popped into my head...

DeaconGraves · Oct 23, 2007, 11:33 AM

Now if we can just get a Beatles set...

nemaslov · Oct 23, 2007, 11:41 AM

WHY WOULD ANYONE BUY THAT WHEN THET COULD GET THIS AMAZING BOX OF CDS WITH GREAT PACKAGING FOR LESS!!! AT AMAZON:

Complete Studio Recordings [BOX SET] [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED]
Led Zeppelin

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Price: $89.97 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping. Details
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raggedjimmi · Oct 23, 2007, 11:42 AM

Fantastic! I've always been a distant admirer of Led Zeppelin, might have to get this box set.

Avatar74 · 11:54 AM

One thing that should be made clear is that the decision to hold out had not entirely been the band's and it wasn't over philosophical grounds either. It was essentially a money dispute.

There was a legal dispute between Led Zeppelin and Atlantic Records that began in 2002 in which they claimed Atlantic was shafting them on royalties. Furthermore, there was a bidding war between publishers that lasted several years which ended with Warner/Chappell guaranteeing higher royalties than in their prior agreement, and distributing via Warner Music Group.

Normally bands don't have this kind of leverage, because they aren't typically the copyright owners. But when Led Zeppelin originally licensed the songs under Superhype Music, they were in a 26 year agreement at the end of the term of which the copyrights reverted to the members of the band. From there they've provided publishers like Warner Chappell mechanical license to reproduce the works while retaining ownership. But that isn't typically how it works. It could have been because Led Zeppelin's earliest recordings were largely self financed... but when an artist gets an advance from a record label, that is a loan and the record company holds all copyrights in the material even after the loan is repaid through the recoupment process.

Today, few artists are smart enough to demand such agreements and consequently end up indebted to the record labels when sales start to slip.

thecritix · Oct 23, 2007, 12:02 PM

hmm
whole lotta sales

glad to see apple and zep overcame their communication breakdown.

samh004 · Oct 23, 2007, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avatar74

Furthermore, there was a bidding war between publishers that lasted several years which ended with Warner/Chappell guaranteeing higher royalties than in their prior agreement, and distributing via Warner Music Group.

Does this mean that they wont be iTunes Plus ?

AgingGeek · Oct 23, 2007, 12:08 PM

This would be better if it included all the rare live recordings (more like the complete U2) which weren't available in the U.S.:

BBC Sessions (1 & 2)
Black Mountain Side
Bron-yr-ar-stomp
Final Cut (Knebworth)
Moma Don't wanna play no skif

etc

Avatar74 · Oct 23, 2007, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samh004

Does this mean that they wont be iTunes Plus ?

I don't see what this has to do with what i said.

samh004 · Oct 23, 2007, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avatar74

I don't see what this has to do with what i said.

You mentioned who they were distributing with didn't you, and I wondered if they were offering iTunes Plus music or not. I they aren't, I don't see why this album would be an exception.

winstano · Oct 23, 2007, 12:16 PM

You know what'd be great? If you could actually download stuff off the store today! Been trying for about 2 hours to download some stuff, and I can't get ANYTHING... "Network connection was reset" error every single time!

levitynyc · Oct 23, 2007, 12:19 PM

Will this be available after the preorder?

Avatar74 · Oct 23, 2007, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samh004

You mentioned who they were distributing with didn't you, and I wondered if they were offering iTunes Plus music or not. I they aren't, I don't see why this album would be an exception.

That depends... this is a bit of a different licensing deal. Most artists today don't own the rights and they're pretty much subject to whatever terms are inked by the record company for digital distribution with iTunes.

But Led Zeppelin could stipulate either way... that they want iTunes Plus or they don't want iTunes Plus distribution, and whoever was bidding on the mechanical rights would have to agree to their terms apart from whatever else they were doing with the copyright material that they (the record label and/or publisher) own.

I meant to say that based on the information I presented, I don't see how one could ascertain either way without knowing what Led Zeppelin actually agreed to allow as part of the licensing deal.

SciTeach · 12:42 PM

YES!! I agree with the Beatles comments also.....maybe others will follow.

The ZEP rules.

psingh01 · Oct 23, 2007, 12:37 PM

iTunes bringing the LEAD OUT!

odinsride · Oct 23, 2007, 12:38 PM

That's cool, but I've already owned the Complete Studio Recordings box set for the past 5 years

It's a great collection of music. I highly recommend it if you don't already own the physical Zepp box set.

Multimedia · 12:51 PM

I already own the complete LZ on CDs so I'm out. But for those who don't this is a great offer. Enjoy!

I definitely entered the sweepstakes - no purchase necessary.

chicagostars · Oct 23, 2007, 12:48 PM

I'd be curious to see how many completists who want the full box with liner notes, packaging, etc. will purchase the physical set and how many people will opt instead for the digital set @ iTunes. My guess is that many fans would like a physically tangible object, but I'm not sure of how many people spend any interacting with their CD packaging these days. (With the music digitized, the few box sets that I've held on to are packed away in a closet.)

I suppose you could buy the physical box, digitize it, and then it to a resale shop to recoup some of the cost.

Oct 23, 2007, 11:25 AM	#2
twoodcc macrumors 603 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Right side of wrong	awesome! glad they finally gave in __________________ tville pump Smarter than the average bear

Oct 23, 2007, 11:25 AM	#3
queshy macrumors 68040 Join Date: Apr 2005	Hmm..maybe a new Led Zeppelin iPod is coming! __________________ "I always feel sorry for the guy in the iPhone commercials. He always gets a call right in the middle of trying to do something" (one1).

Oct 23, 2007, 11:28 AM	#4
Kernow macrumors 65816 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingston-Upon-Thames	Excellent! I have all the albums on vinyl (stolen from my dad's record collection ) but have never got around to getting versions I can listen to on my iPod. __________________ Bring on the trumpets!

Oct 23, 2007, 11:29 AM	#5
fanbrain macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So. UT	$99? Wow. Is it the higher quality version? If so, I wouldn't mind my own digital box set. __________________ Keeping Apple debt-free since 1983.

Oct 23, 2007, 11:30 AM	#6
Squonk macrumors 65816 Join Date: Mar 2005	Wahoo!!! Time to get the Led out! Excellent news!!! I can only hope this will be available in iTunes Plus format... Otherwise, I'll stick to me ripped CD's with Apple Lossless format... __________________ iSwitched in 1988 MP quad 2.8 (4GB/1.5TB/ATI 2600), iPhone, iPods

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BWhaler macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jan 2003	I couldn't buy this fast enough. Awesome. __________________ "Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death." -- Hunter Thompson

Oct 23, 2007, 11:33 AM	#8
aricher macrumors 68000 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chi-il	Dunno why but this is the first thing that popped into my head...

Oct 23, 2007, 11:33 AM	#9
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Oct 23, 2007, 11:41 AM	#10
nemaslov macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco	WHY WOULD ANYONE BUY THAT WHEN THET COULD GET THIS AMAZING BOX OF CDS WITH GREAT PACKAGING FOR LESS!!! AT AMAZON: Complete Studio Recordings [BOX SET] [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] Led Zeppelin More about this product List Price: $129.98 Price: $89.97 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping. Details You Save: $40.01 (31%) __________________ Agent man

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raggedjimmi macrumors 604 Join Date: Jan 2005	Fantastic! I've always been a distant admirer of Led Zeppelin, might have to get this box set. __________________ www.bossbaddie.com

Oct 23, 2007, 11:48 AM	#12
Avatar74 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2007	One thing that should be made clear is that the decision to hold out had not entirely been the band's and it wasn't over philosophical grounds either. It was essentially a money dispute. There was a legal dispute between Led Zeppelin and Atlantic Records that began in 2002 in which they claimed Atlantic was shafting them on royalties. Furthermore, there was a bidding war between publishers that lasted several years which ended with Warner/Chappell guaranteeing higher royalties than in their prior agreement, and distributing via Warner Music Group. Normally bands don't have this kind of leverage, because they aren't typically the copyright owners. But when Led Zeppelin originally licensed the songs under Superhype Music, they were in a 26 year agreement at the end of the term of which the copyrights reverted to the members of the band. From there they've provided publishers like Warner Chappell mechanical license to reproduce the works while retaining ownership. But that isn't typically how it works. It could have been because Led Zeppelin's earliest recordings were largely self financed... but when an artist gets an advance from a record label, that is a loan and the record company holds all copyrights in the material even after the loan is repaid through the recoupment process. Today, few artists are smart enough to demand such agreements and consequently end up indebted to the record labels when sales start to slip. Last edited by Avatar74 : Oct 23, 2007 at 11:54 AM.

Oct 23, 2007, 12:02 PM	#13
thecritix macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West London, England	hmm whole lotta sales glad to see apple and zep overcame their communication breakdown.

Oct 23, 2007, 12:08 PM	#15
AgingGeek macrumors member Join Date: May 2007	This would be better if it included all the rare live recordings (more like the complete U2) which weren't available in the U.S.: BBC Sessions (1 & 2) Black Mountain Side Bron-yr-ar-stomp Final Cut (Knebworth) Moma Don't wanna play no skif etc

Oct 23, 2007, 12:16 PM	#18
winstano macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2005	You know what'd be great? If you could actually download stuff off the store today! Been trying for about 2 hours to download some stuff, and I can't get ANYTHING... "Network connection was reset" error every single time!

Oct 23, 2007, 12:19 PM	#19
levitynyc macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2006	Will this be available after the preorder?

Oct 23, 2007, 12:25 PM	#21
SciTeach macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NEK	YES!! I agree with the Beatles comments also.....maybe others will follow. The ZEP rules. Last edited by SciTeach : Oct 23, 2007 at 12:42 PM. Reason: removed quote

Oct 23, 2007, 12:37 PM	#22
psingh01 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2004	iTunes bringing the LEAD OUT!

Oct 23, 2007, 12:38 PM	#23
odinsride macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Reston, VA	That's cool, but I've already owned the Complete Studio Recordings box set for the past 5 years It's a great collection of music. I highly recommend it if you don't already own the physical Zepp box set. __________________ "It is just that heavy metal musicians write in minor keys, and when you do that, you frighten people." - Ronnie James Dio Flickr

Oct 23, 2007, 12:43 PM	#24
Multimedia Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Santa Cruz CA, Silicon Beach	Great Offer For Those Who Don't Have Them Already • I Entered The Sweepstakes I already own the complete LZ on CDs so I'm out. But for those who don't this is a great offer. Enjoy! I definitely entered the sweepstakes - no purchase necessary. Last edited by Multimedia : Oct 23, 2007 at 12:51 PM.

Oct 23, 2007, 12:48 PM	#25
chicagostars macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago, IL	interesting to see I'd be curious to see how many completists who want the full box with liner notes, packaging, etc. will purchase the physical set and how many people will opt instead for the digital set @ iTunes. My guess is that many fans would like a physically tangible object, but I'm not sure of how many people spend any interacting with their CD packaging these days. (With the music digitized, the few box sets that I've held on to are packed away in a closet.) I suppose you could buy the physical box, digitize it, and then it to a resale shop to recoup some of the cost.

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