Another Day, Another Panther Build (7B59)

[MacRumors]

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Apple continues its aggressive seeding of Panther, with Mac OS X Client Build 7B59. Some known bugs still remain in these late builds -- including some filesystem issues.

Of interest, beyond Panther Client, Apple has also seeded Mac OS X 10.2.8 -- which replaces the previous 10.2.7 seeds. This latest version of Jaguar contains improved functionality and reliability for Audio, Bluetooth, Classic, Finder, Graphics, LDAP, Power Management, Safari, Firewire Devices, as well as security updates.

The current PowerMac G5s ship with a version of Mac OS X 10.2.7.

[alset]

Sweet! Moving right along. Let's hope to see it soon, cuz lack of Expose is killing me.

Dan

[edesignuk]

It's good to see the fast rate of development they are currently running @ with Panther, can't wait for the GM!

[arn]

Yeah, you guys are running out of things to say about new Panther builds - eh?

I think the most interesting -- yet insignificant thing -- is the jump to 10.2.8. Don't know why they did this... perhaps to make it easier on themselves for support issues.

arn

[DylanSchell]

I think it's fairly obvious why apple would go to 10.2.8, it would be incredibly confusing for new G5 owners to "upgrade" from 10.2.7 to another 10.2.7.

[Doraemon]

Does anyone know the Build number of 10.2.8?

Thanks!

[mvc]

They'd better hurry up with Panther or they are going to run out of digits for Jaguar. Currently 10.2.8, next 10.2.9? then what?? 10.2.9.1???

[esheep2001]

Yet again I buy another brand spanking new machine and have to do an update to the OS straight away. Unless of course it takes so long to get my G5 out that I end up with 10.2.8 anyway. Then again, given how things are going I'm expecting my machine to come with 10.5 :-)

e.

[sickracer2015]

10.2.8 isn't a new update its replacing 10.2.7.. most likely since its including the latest security updates a G5 user can update to it along with others. 10.2.8 is build number 6R57.. but now i question of a G5 user can update to it.. since G5 computers ship with 10.2.7 but the build number is 6Sxx and as that looks to me the 10.2.7 is a lot newer than the current 10.2.8 build. maybe its not for G5 users

[gopher]

Originally posted by mvc
They'd better hurry up with Panther or they are going to run out of digits for Jaguar. Currently 10.2.8, next 10.2.9? then what?? 10.2.9.1???

It will be like AOL Instant Messanger.

[QuiteSure]

I'd like to see a new poll:

Are you waiting to buy a new Mac to until Panther is installed?

I know I am! It will reduce the price of the computer by $129

[webplummer]

Why do they need to release a 10.2.8 update with Panther just around the corner? It seems they are putting an awful lot of development time into an update that will just be steamrolled by Panther in a few short months' time. And while rumor sites keep saying Panther is expected to ship by the end of the year, I have my fingers crossed that Steve will announce beginning of October shipping for it. Whatever.

[qazwsxedc30]

If you install panther does it clear your hard drive?

[skirtley]

Why is 10.2.7 not for every Jaguar User? Is it a good Idea to Split up End users with different Updates?

Apple Supports 2 OSs, 1 for Servers and One for Users.

Why not keep us all on the same playing field?

[Lord Bodak]

Hate to add more fuel to the Powerbook rumors, but couldn't 10.2.8 add support for the new Powerbooks?

[Rocketman]

Originally posted by webplummer
Why do they need to release a 10.2.8 update with Panther just around the corner? It seems they are putting an awful lot of development time into an update that will just be steamrolled by Panther in a few short months' time. And while rumor sites keep saying Panther is expected to ship by the end of the year, I have my fingers crossed that Steve will announce beginning of October shipping for it. Whatever.

OS development is a continuous process. The OS is actually Apple's primary product, the fact they give it away with every computer notwithstanding.

The change to entirely new chips, busses, memory, even general architecture is a major challenge for the OS writers. Given the sheer numbers of "standards" and plugs and cards Apple has supported over even the last 3-5 years, much less 20 it is actualy somewhat shocking.

At this point what they need is for the OS to be as bulletproof as they have been claiming for about 3 years now. All the changes they have been doing to the kernal and filesyatem risks ruining that claim. I just hope they are paying special attention to basic function reliability and accuracy first and adding bells and whistles last.

Top 5 priorities for Apple:
Windows iTunes
Deliver ALL G5 orders
Settle on a rock solid OS build for G5's
In-house clustering software and hardware
A portable appliance that phones, musics, records, pictures, and internets.
And bills to my CC iTunes downloads, ringer tone downloads,
internet service, and optional .mac access.

6. A 15" G5 0.65um dual 3.0 Ghz PowerBook

Rocketman

[airmac]

Originally posted by QuiteSure
I'd like to see a new poll:

Are you waiting to buy a new Mac to until Panther is installed?

I know I am! It will reduce the price of the computer by $129

Me too. I got an iBook 900 in january and it is a thing of beauty. I bought something cheap cause i'm waiting for a powerful powerbook with 10.3. My dream toy? 1600x1200 15'4 WHITE aluminum Powerbook G5

[cubist]

Originally posted by skirtley
Why is 10.2.7 not for every Jaguar User? Is it a good Idea to Split up End users with different Updates? ...

I second the motion. If 10.2.7 is released, it should be in software update fairly soon. And we know it's released, because folks have it on their G5's.

As for what comes after 10.2.9, it will be 10.2.10, of course.

[NicoMan]

Originally posted by arn
I think the most interesting -- yet insignificant thing -- is the jump to 10.2.8. Don't know why they did this...

Probably to avoid confusion... 10.2.7 will stay the G5 version of 10.2.6... Does that make sense?

[NicoMan]

Originally posted by airmac
Me too. I got an iBook 900 in january and it is a thing of beauty. I bought something cheap cause i'm waiting for a powerful powerbook with 10.3. My dream toy? 1600x1200 15'4 WHITE aluminum Powerbook G5

Not to be annoying, but 1600*1200 would be a 4:3 aspect screen, which is not the 15" and 17" aspect ratio. 1440*900 would be quite cool for the 15", with the 17" being bumped up to 1680*1050 or (let's be crazy) 1920*1200. Muahahahaha. (here we go I have lost it again while speaking about the (possibly) new PBs...).

Sorry about this off-topic, though.

[chabig]

They'd better hurry up with Panther or they are going to run out of digits for Jaguar. Currently 10.2.8, next 10.2.9? then what?? 10.2.9.1???

Who says version numbers are limited to single digits? Obviously the version after 10.2.9 would be 10.2.10

Chris

[rotorblade]

Why do they need to release a 10.2.8 update with Panther just around the corner? It seems they are putting an awful lot of development time into an update that will just be steamrolled by Panther in a few short months' time.

Considering many people will not be able to use Panther with their current computer(s), anything to clean up the last minute bugs/issues is a good thing. While I'm sure Apple would love for everyone to run out and buy a new computer tomorrow, that just isn't going to happen. I buy a new computer every 5 years, so I'm not do until 2004. Yet, I'll take anything to improve the OS until then. :-)

[airmac]

Originally posted by NicoMan
Not to be annoying, but 1600*1200 would be a 4:3 aspect screen, which is not the 15" and 17" aspect ratio. 1440*900 would be quite cool for the 15", with the 17" being bumped up to 1680*1050 or (let's be crazy) 1920*1200. Muahahahaha. (here we go I have lost it again while speaking about the (possibly) new PBs...).

Sorry about this off-topic, though.

haha you got me there. i guess i'm working on 1600x1200 for too long now

The thing is i never used wide screens, but 1440*900 would be cool.

[DHagan4755]

Could mean that PowerBooks are indeed around the corner, thus also meaning that 10.2.7 is done. Since 10.2.7 is done, and will be shipping on PowerBooks, iMacs, and PowerBook G5s, Apple is now prepping a bug release that further supports the new hardware and fixes bugs in existing apps.

[Freg3000]

Originally posted by rotorblade
Why do they need to release a 10.2.8 update with Panther just around the corner? It seems they are putting an awful lot of development time into an update that will just be steamrolled by Panther in a few short months' time.

Considering many people will not be able to use Panther with their current computer(s), anything to clean up the last minute bugs/issues is a good thing. While I'm sure Apple would love for everyone to run out and buy a new computer tomorrow, that just isn't going to happen. I buy a new computer every 5 years, so I'm not do until 2004. Yet, I'll take anything to improve the OS until then. :-)

If I am not mistaken, I think that Panther actually supports every computer than Jaguar did, less one. And for all of those old machines that are still supported, they run incredibly faster according to reports. I don't think that is the reason.