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Old Sep 11, 2003, 08:44 AM   #1
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PowerBooks in Paris?

AppleInsider updates with claims that PowerPC 7457 processors are finally in good supply and that PowerBook G4s will ("positively confirmed") arrive at Apple Expo Paris which should bring the 15" model to 1.25GHz with USB 2.0, Firewire 800 and side ports.

12" and 17" Model updates are possible, but less certain, according to the rumor site.

A few recent Page 2 rumors have recently surfaced offering their own details about potential PowerBook upgrades -- with dissenting reports about potential PowerBook releases in Paris

The full collection of PowerBook Rumors are available on our archive page.

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Old Sep 11, 2003, 08:47 AM   #2
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G4s???

I'd really expected a G5 PB now.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

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Old Sep 11, 2003, 08:48 AM   #3
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I sure hope we see powerbooks at Paris... It would be silly to update the 15'' to make it faster than the 17'', though... I cant imagine they updating one without the other.
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 08:49 AM   #4
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and the 12"?? I'll be there in Paris,..
but i'm waiting for the new "thinner" 12"

I really hope that one gets updated too!!

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Old Sep 11, 2003, 08:51 AM   #5
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I agree all three will be updated. The 12" and 17" are due as well for an update.

*I'd love to see the 12 get a 1Ghz with L3 at least.
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PowerBook rumor for the week? Check.

Move along folks, nothing to see (or comment on) here.
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 08:56 AM   #7
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Talking We'll see!!

I guess I was secretly hoping for a G5 with the idea of the por line being g5 and the consumer line being G4. If not, I'll still buy one. Hopefully this will pan out.

Hey, maybe this is part of Steve's Reality Distortion Field! This is supposed to be the Year of the Laptop. Maybe he's highlighting the inherent uncertainty of making global statements. Or is this too post-modern?

Seriously something must being going very wrong for there to be this long a lag between updates. For what, a speed bump and light-up keyboard? A a reasonably intelligent chimp with an Etch-Sketch and a Lightbright could have knock together this over the weekend.
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Ugh. Wouldn’t Apple HAVE to update the 17” since its their top of the line? Then again the 15” is the sweet spot of laptops right now and it does look like they have to pick and choose where to put these new chips sparingly
Please don’t hurt me for saying this
It wouldn’t be all that difficult to imagine them holding off on the 17” PB until spring and going straight to G5’s on the 17” and 15”.
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 08:57 AM   #9
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I am skeptical of the PB update rumors for MW Paris. I just don't see Steve Jobs making a major product announcement while his major target buyers -- US consumers -- are asleep.
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 08:57 AM   #10
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Dual G4 PB, PB in Paris, Motorolla can't deliver the processors, Apple have to use 1.25GHz instead.

Rumour sites just haven't a clue, really.

These aren't rumours, a pure guessing game!! :-)
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Seriously something must being going very wrong for there to be this long a lag between updates. For what, a speed bump and light-up keyboard? A a reasonably intelligent chimp with an Etch-Sketch and a Lightbright could have knock together this over the weekend.
Ya its called Moto.
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 08:58 AM   #12
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Yaaawwwwn.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Next?!?
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 08:59 AM   #13
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That'll be cool.
I'm gonna be there, so I hope Steve can show them off!
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 09:01 AM   #14
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Yaaawwwwn.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Next?!?
I can't agree more. I think it's safe to say that nobody really knows what will happen in Paris. Well, except maybe Steve...
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 09:02 AM   #15
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If 1.25GHz is all, Apple better lower thoose prices! A notebook with 3GHz costs half the price of a 15" PowerBook!
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 09:13 AM   #16
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Arn,

You reported earlier that G5 enabling SW was code-named with LOTR's characters.

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Upon arrival, the laptops will be met by Apple engineers who will update their system software to the recently finalized version of Mac OS X 10.2.7 Blackrider.
How significant is this???
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 09:13 AM   #17
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I am skeptical of the PB update rumors for MW Paris. I just don't see Steve Jobs making a major product announcement while his major target buyers -- US consumers -- are asleep.
Maybe showing more interest in the rest of the world would help lessen their dependency on the US.

Might be some good PR to do this in France especially considering recent events
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 09:14 AM   #18
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If 1.25GHz is all, Apple better lower thoose prices! A notebook with 3GHz costs half the price of a 15" PowerBook!
oh geez, don't get people started...

what use is comparing P4 to G4 on a PB update thread?
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 09:16 AM   #19
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all models updated?

PBs are out of stock at good UK suppliers and I've heard that 'the new PBs will (should, maybe...) be announced on Monday' – here’s hoping, now I just hope they can deliver on time...
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Lower prices? Ha-ha!

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If 1.25GHz is all, Apple better lower thoose prices! A notebook with 3GHz costs half the price of a 15" PowerBook!
Apple doesn't care that their 15" PowerBook costs twice as much as an Intel based while running twice as slow. Apple only wants you to compare it to the previous version of the PowerBook. That way, they can justify the cost. Thats how they could justify the price increase on the PowerMacs with the introduction of the G5. Whereas the rest of the world has PC prices coming down, Apple raised theirs.

If the previous PowerMac ran a 867mhz processor and cost $2500 and the new one uses a 1.25ghz processor and costs the same, Apple expects you to see that its a good deal.
Nevermind that a Dell or Sony 15" with a 3ghz processor and the same specs could possibly be around $1999. Apple has tunnel vision. They never look outside their world. And it actually seems to be working for them. They are profitable. And only Dell can say that besides Apple.
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 09:18 AM   #21
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Arn,

You reported earlier that G5 enabling SW was code-named with LOTR's characters.



How significant is this???
Ya, I remember hearing that as well. I believe it even came from ThinkSecret. And they're usually dead on. Pllleeeeaassseee.... G5 G5....
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 09:19 AM   #22
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I am skeptical of the PB update rumors for MW Paris. I just don't see Steve Jobs making a major product announcement while his major target buyers -- US consumers -- are asleep.
Hey, the US will wake up to the great news that new laptops are available down at the mall. Have your breakfast and drive on down to pick one up right away.

We in Europe normally have to sweat out the day before the early evening Steve-o Show at MWSF and WWDC.

I think Apple updated their European online stores before the US store for last week's product updates. Is that a first? Ok, it was close, but we're only talking minutes/hours here.

It's all dollars to Apple, at the end of the day.

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edit: the iMac/iPod updates were this week, right? I'm on holiday and have lost all concept of time...

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How very self centred.

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I am skeptical of the PB update rumors for MW Paris. I just don't see Steve Jobs making a major product announcement while his major target buyers -- US consumers -- are asleep.
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Old Sep 11, 2003, 09:26 AM   #24
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I am skeptical of the PB update rumors for MW Paris. I just don't see Steve Jobs making a major product announcement while his major target buyers -- US consumers -- are asleep.
The vast majority of his target consumers don't even watch the live keynote. Also, I think that international orders amount to about half of apple's sales. Apple expo Paris could be the right place to announce a new product. Otherwise, there really isn't much events left beside San-Francisco.

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Old Sep 11, 2003, 09:29 AM   #25
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Chazmox wondered if the codename of 10.2.7 Blackrider meant that the PBs would be G5s. As did Omek below:

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Ya, I remember hearing that as well. I believe it even came from ThinkSecret. And they're usually dead on. Pllleeeeaassseee.... G5 G5....
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10.2.7 Smeagol is 10.2.7 for G5s.
10.2.7 Blackrider is 10.2.7 for all other Macs.

Hope that helps.

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