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Sep 17, 2003, 08:40 PM
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PowerMac Dual 2.0GHz PS7Bench Benchmarks
With Dual 2.0GHz PowerMacs finally trickling to end users, one person posted PS7Bench Benchmarks from their brand-new PowerMac Dual 2.0GHz Mac with 1GB RAM.
The new results have been added to the previous PS7Bench Benchmark chart which include previous results from the PowerMac G5 1.6GHz as well as various PC configurations. PC result pulled from this Acehardware article. PowerMac G5 1.6GHz results from this previous MacNN thread. Best results are in red. The PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0GHz results are the fastest in 15/21 of the tests run. A normalized score was calculated and listed in comparison to varous other systems in this ArsTechnica thread. (Normalized Score?) The normalized score for the PowerMac G5 2.0GHz comes to 547, which tops out the other configurations in the comparison list. Last edited by arn : Sep 17, 2003 at 08:46 PM. |
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Sep 17, 2003, 08:44 PM
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Looks like we may finally kick some tail! Here's to progress, folks, and IBM!
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Aug 21, 2005, 02:49 AM
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Aug 21, 2005, 03:18 AM
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I look at those triple-core 3.2ghz Xbox 360 procs and just dream of what could be if Apple didn't (allegedly) play such games.
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Aug 21, 2005, 06:18 AM
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Sep 17, 2003, 08:44 PM
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The Fastest Computer in the world is true!
 We finnaly have our deserved crown for owning them all! Hurray for the G5! Code:
2x 2000 G5 OSX 10.2.7 (G5 plugin) 547 (energy settings highest perf)
2x 3060 Xeon (OC'd 2400) 488
2x 2930 Xeon (OC'd 2400) 471
3200 P4 (800MHz) 427
3000 P4 (800MHz) 405
3495 P4 (OC'd 3.06) 386
3060 P4 XP Pro (533 FSB) 358 HT
2x 2200 Xeon PC 800 RDRAM CPQ Evo 357 HT
2x 1500 G4 (OC'd 1420) 348
2x 1333 G4 DDR OS9.2 (oc'd 1.25) 346
1800 G5 OSX 10.2.7 (G5 plugin) 344 (energy settings highest perf)
2x 1420 G4 OSX 10.2.4 338
2x 2400+Athlon MP 338
2x 1250 G4 OS 9.2.2j 337
3200+Athlon XP 332
1800 Opteron(dual-chnlDDR 333) 332
2x 1333 G4 DDR OSX10.2.2(oc 1.25) 326
1800 OPteron(singl-chnlDDR333) 320
3000+Athlon XP 318
2x 1250 G4 OSX 10.2.5 318
2x 1250 G4 DDR OSX 10.2.1 316
2x 1800 Athlon MP 312
2800+Athlon XP Barton 298
2x 2000 P4 Xeon 286
2x 1200 G4Powerlogix(867MHzG4/QS) 285 upgraded
2x 1533 Athlon MP 285
2x 1533 Athlon MP 283
2530 P4 mobile (OC'd 1400) 282
2700 P4B (OC 2400, 600 MHz FSB)280
2x 1466 Athlon XP 279
1600 G5 OSX 10.2.7w/G5 Plugin 276 *MacNNscores
2666 P4 (DDR 333) 269
2x 1000 G4 DDR 10.2 267
2400+Athlon XP 262
2x 1000 G4 OS9 260
2x 1000 G4 OSX 10.1.5 254
2400+Athlon 252
2400 P4B (800MHz) 251
2400b (sis 648 DDR400) 251
1600 Centrino IBM T40 250
2400 P4 (533MHz bus) 249
2400 P4 B 241
2340 P4 (overclock) 239
1600 Centrino Dell D800 236
2400 P4 234
1800+Athlon XP (1533 MHz) 226
1577 oc'd Athlon XP (Lestat) 221
2x 1000 G4 OSX 10.2.2 (upgraded) 218 ?!(dual 533 logic board)
1548 Athlon XP 214
1670 Athlon XP (2000+) 213
1667 Athlon XP 211
1400 Athlon XP 1600+ xp pro 200
1x 1533 Athlon MP 197
1300 Centrino Sony VAIO Z1A 196
1000 G4 17" Powrbk OSX 10.2.6 196
2000 P4 Xeon 194
1400 Athlon XP 1600+'98SE 191
1000 G4 OSX TiPbk 10.2.2 185
2x 533 G4 OSX 10.1.5 175
2x 533 G4 OS 9.2.2 174
1800 P4 173
1200 AthlonMP 168
1508 Celeron (overclock) 167
1400 PIII Tualatin 160 **?
2x 550 G4 OSX 10.2.3 (OC Cube) 160 **?
2x 500 G4 OSX 152
2x 450 G4 OS9 151
1333 Athlon TBird 147
2x 450 G4 OSX 10.1.5 143
800 G4 Pbook OSX 1MB L3 135
733 G4 (miro7) 134
667 G4 PBk OS9 noL3 127
667 G4 PBk OSX 10.2.3 no L3 125
466 G4 OS9 123
667 G4 OSX TiPBk 10.1.5 noL3 121
866 PIII 114
466 G4 OSX 133 MHz bus 112
550 G4 Powrbk OS9* 104
500 G4 Pbook (OC'd 400) 103
1x 450 G4 OSX 100 MHz bus 101
1000 Athlon TBird (PS6.01) 100
550 G4 Powrbk OSX* 95
933 Transmeta Crusoe Sony 78
700 G3 iBook 74
600 G3 iBook OS 9.2.2j 70
233 PII 30
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Sep 17, 2003, 08:53 PM
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The chart looks good.
Something to take my mind off Isabel.
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Sep 17, 2003, 08:57 PM
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I want one
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:23 PM
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Good Good.
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:34 PM
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what I like most is that in some cases, the G5 crushes the competition, but when it loses, it's never by much.
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:36 PM
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My only question is was the RAM used in each machine the same beacause RAM makes a huge difference in Photoshop tests, a MacAddict article showed when they did 512mb RAM vs 2GB of RAM in G5's the 2 giger was almost 20 times faster in some spots.
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:36 PM
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Hmm, shes a quick little devil
Yep, it would be difficult even for a rapid PC zealot to deny that the dual 2 GHz G5 is among the fastest of the available machines, but I'm sure we will shortly hear from one trying
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:42 PM
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not to complain, but...
The results would seem to vindicate the G5 architecture, and I would expect better results in the future as optimization continues through Photoshop 8. Still, the P4 3200 800 Mhz bus version did quite well for a single processor.
Interesting that the 1800 dual channel DDR333 Opteron was just a tad slower than an equivalent G5. I would like to see the faster bus versions of the Opteron to see how they hold up (I consider the Opteron the natural rival to the 970, not Pentium or Xeon). That said, what's with the pathetic results from the dual Xeon's? Those babies should be put down. |
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:43 PM
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just the start
I hope this quells some of the 'Steve Jobs is a liar' crap I've been seeing around the net... even on these and other Mac boards.
It's pretty sad when people are so quick to ignore the architecture... to assume that when early benchmarks on unoptimized code, or against fudged PC scores don't show vast 970 superiority.... to assume that the new machine is crap and that Apple is lying about performance figures that will be thoroughly tested asap. Maybe this is one of the first signs that the machines are indeed fast, very fast. It is, afterall, a dual 2GHz machine on 1GHz frontside buses, with a max theoretical IPC of 8 (wow). I think even the Mac bashers will eventually just shut up when more benchmarks are run. PS 7 is only slightly optimised for the G5. There is a lot of Altivec code in PShop that is optimised for the G4... code that will run like crap on the G5. Just wait till Photoshop 8 running on Panther. :-) The real question will be Athlon64fx and Prescott. Athlon64 is a hot chip and it will likely pass the 970 in clock at first. The 970 can have more in flight instructions though, and a higher IPC, and better SIMD performance. Prescott is a bigger danger though. It's still a 'netburst' P4 though there are apparently significant updates to the core. L2 us supposedly going up to 2MB, though heat output will be over 100watts to get all that. It will be a fast processor though... I think we'll need a speed bump in the G5s to fend off the Prescott on code that doesn't make extensive use of SMP. ffakr... still waiting on his budget for the new Mac.
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:45 PM
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OK, hands up: who *REALLY* thought that the performance of a dual 2 GHz G5 was going to be any less spectacular and wouldn't blow away the competition?
*truthfully keeps hand down* 
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:53 PM
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I'm impressed. And this is just the first revision of the G5. Not bad at all.
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:55 PM
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So where can I find that benchmark to try it myself?
I've got my shiny new 1.8 w/ 2.5G RAM & I'd like to run the benchmark on my machine. Is it available for download?
Apologies if I'm missing something obvious - just a little excited perhaps
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:56 PM
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It's inconceiveable that, over time, the mainstream PCs will not naturally be superior in speed that a niche player like the Mac - this current good result is really a sweet spot due to a good new architecture competing against either old / inefficient / overstretched / poorly implemented or undeveloped ones. Logically, it cannot stay this way when so much more money overall is being poured into the competitions R&D, no matter how clever IBM's engineers are. Only if we somehow gain a more major marketshare (say over 10%), will there be any real hope of sustaining this sort of result. Ask yourself, why did Motorola go from being a successful fast chip maker to a laggard? (apart from general incompetence)? Because they don't care about the Powerpc as a standalone Computer platform, because it doesn't make enough money. IBM has a more vested interest with their servers using related Power4 architecture, but there are no guarantees they will advance the consumer spinoff 970-9X0 chips as fast. That said, Hooray for the little guy!
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:57 PM
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Re: So where can I find that benchmark to try it myself?
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Sep 17, 2003, 09:59 PM
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Re: So where can I find that benchmark to try it myself?
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Sep 17, 2003, 10:04 PM
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And it's going to be at 3GHz by the end of next year.
How great for Apple. They really pulled a rabbit out of their hat with the G5. |
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Sep 17, 2003, 10:04 PM
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Re: Re: So where can I find that benchmark to try it myself?
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 . I will post xbench, assuming I've got all the right s/w, but might not get to it till later tonight though - got to step out for a bit. |
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Sep 17, 2003, 10:09 PM
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